Abortion Doctor Geroge Tiller Murdered this morning

[matt1985]

I think that killing somebody in church is a monsterous thing to do. People who saw this must be tramuatized and will need treatment. But Tiller should have been more careful. When you have thousands of enmies, you don’t hand out pamplets in church to everybody coming in the building. People did shoot at him in the past. He really should have known better.

I think the devil encouraged this man in order to make Tiller a hero. He will chew you up and spit you out. Catholics seem to underestimate the power of the devil. The pro life side looks like a bunch of lunatics now to some people.

 

[BareKnuckler]

Weeping for this monster is a lot like weeping for Adolph Hitler. I cannot and will not do it. Tonight, I will pray for all of the babies he has butchered over the years. Let him rot!

This must be a example of Christian Love. Good example of your faith my friend.

I approve

He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for God is love. – John 4:8
Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins. – Proverbs 10:12
These things I command you, that ye love one another. – John 15:17

 

[DeoSalvatoreMeo]

Let’s extrapolate that view: What about a slave-holder’s family, or a society that gains from the subjugation of a sister state? The US grabbed about a third of Mexico and kept it.

If you look at it (not to hijack this thread) that statement is a major defense of affirmative action. Who gained and continues to enjoy the fruits from the history of discrimination in this country? The effects of discrimination did not end when the practice ended. Did anyone benefit from ill-gotten money?

This question of a moralist enjoying the fruits of evil acts was a subject of at least one episode of “The Sopranos” and Shaw’s play “Major Barbara”. It is an interesting conundrum.

Tiller’s wife knew exactly where that man’s money was being made and she was willing to accept that. That’s complicity. Let’s not hijack the thread with your make-believe. This is reality. The man made his living from killing the unborn.

 

[DeoSalvatoreMeo]

This was a terrorist action, of course the conservative run Media would never see it this way…

Saddly this was bound to happen. Operation Rescue and most of the so called “pro-life” movement has this man’s blood on their hands. You distrubute propaganda calling people unstoppable, unchecked mass murderers, and someone will take the logical next step to stop said mass murderer.

As others have said, abortion: what a terrible web we weave. This man made his living off the violence of abortion and died by an act of violence. Violence begets violence. It’s all sad and it’s all wrong. Satan must be laughing.

 

[hosemonkey]

At the risk of being very non-PC, (and not only to be called un-Christian) there are some people in this sad old world that just need killing. There are those who have placed themselves so far away from the pale of human decency, that they just need to be removed from the company of decent people. They have given up their right to be members of this (always flawed) human race. You have every right to disagree with what I say, but you know that it is true. We certainly had no qualms about ridding the world of some of these types after WWII, nor of sending Saddam Hussein to eternity. We just took a little longer to observe the legal niceties. The mods are probably going to hammer me for this, but I think that it needs to be said.

 

[rlg94086]

At the risk of being very non-PC, (and not only to be called un-Christian) there are some people in this sad old world that just need killing. There are those who have placed themselves so far away from the pale of human decency, that they just need to be removed from the company of decent people. They have given up their right to be members of this (always flawed) human race. You have every right to disagree with what I say, but you know that it is true. We certainly had no qualms about ridding the world of some of these types after WWII, nor of sending Saddam Hussein to eternity. We just took a little longer to observe the legal niceties. The mods are probably going to hammer me for this, but I think that it needs to be said.

I understand your viewpoint. As I said before, it is basically the same as abolitionist John Brown, whom Abraham Lincoln referred to as a “misguided fanatic.” Many still see him as a hero.

I can’t agree with your viewpoint, as it justifies vigilante justice and open season on abortion doctors. It is more than non-PC and you deserve to be hammered by the mods.

 

[Wowbagger]

I can’t agree with your viewpoint, as it justifies vigilante justice and open season on abortion doctors. It is more than non-PC and you deserve to be hammered by the mods.

Hey, hold up. I don’t agree with hosemonkey’s viewpoint, either (though I am closer to it than you are), but let’s not call down the wrath of the mods just because the guy disagrees with us. I don’t think he violated any forum rules in expressing that opinion, and it adds to the discussion to have all POV’s represented.

I mean, we don’t ban pro-abortion-rightists from this forum just because they declare open season on the unborn, do we? Let’s not hold homicidal anti-abortionists to a harsher standard of moderation than we do the homicidal pro-abortion-rightsists we allow here on a daily basis.

 

[rlg94086]

Hey, hold up. I don’t agree with hosemonkey’s viewpoint, either (though I am closer to it than you are), but let’s not call down the wrath of the mods just because the guy disagrees with us. I don’t think he violated any forum rules in expressing that opinion, and it adds to the discussion to have all POV’s represented.

I mean, we don’t ban pro-abortion-rightists from this forum just because they declare open season on the unborn, do we? Let’s not hold homicidal anti-abortionists to a harsher standard of moderation than we do the homicidal pro-abortion-rightsists we allow here on a daily basis.

The mods already spoke about this on the thread very early on:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=5268000&postcount=58

GENERAL REMINDER

Review the forum guidelines at the top of the forum before you post.

Advocating violence is a banned topic.

 

[aggiecatholic05]

i dont think saying he got what he deserved(paraphrasing)is the same as advocating for violence-that recquires a call to further action, this is just accepting a past action.

 

[Wowbagger]

Ah. Touche. I made the mistake of only reading the “Forum Rules” topic; I skipped the rest of that sub-forum.

I’m curious, though: if the forum rules ban all advocacy of all violence, then how can anyone on this forum publicly endorse a just war–or the just war theory in general? Or support parents spanking their children? How can we debate abortion, if all the abortion rights advocates are, ipso facto, banned? A sweeping rule against “advocating violence,” fairly and justly enforced, would ban nearly every member of this forum, including most of the mods and, if he ever registered here, Pope Benedict.

But this has nothing to do with you, as the mod post at the outset of the thread makes your point quite clear and correct. I’ll PM a mod and find out what gives.

 

[rlg94086]

i dont think saying he got what he deserved(paraphrasing)is the same as advocating for violence-that recquires a call to further action, this is just accepting a past action.

hosemonkey said a little more than that. However, personally, I believe that saying “he got what he deserved” indirectly advocates violence. If “he got what he deserved,” don’t other abortion doctors “deserve” the same thing? If not, why not?

 

[aggiecatholic05]

hosemonkey said a little more than that. However, personally, I believe that saying “he got what he deserved” indirectly advocates violence. If “he got what he deserved,” don’t other abortion doctors “deserve” the same thing? If not, why not?

an interesting take on it, but a strech. as this thread is just about this one person it would take straying off topic(like that would happen on an internet forum) to get it to other abortionists(anything but dctors). however i can see your point.

 

[rlg94086]

an interesting take on it, but a strech. as this thread is just about this one person it would take straying off topic(like that would happen on an internet forum) to get it to other abortionists(anything but dctors). however i can see your point.

Well, hardly a stretch, but I will respect your desire not to go off-topic into the subject. I am a firm believer in staying on-topic and wouldn’t dream of contributing to such an action.

 

[cyberwolf001]

Dr. murdered: all pro-life groups have terroristic motives. (Despite the fact the murderer was primarily associated with an anti-government group.)

Baby murdered after being born alive after a failed abortion attempt in Flordia: crickets chirp.

I know the feeling of frustration Angels.

Child aborted: Outrage!

Child dies of starvation in the U.S. due to poverty and right wing anti-Welfare policy: Crikets chirp OR Blame Liberals

while any loss of life is tragic, your comments are insulting to humanity as a whole. they dismiss the countless murders he preformed and the rapes he covered up. this man WAS a mass murderer to say he was anything less would be a lie.

his blood is on his hands alone. there is NO way he would have died today if he had not been committed to a life as a hitman.

So you know for a fact he covered up rape?

BTW I take it ‘two wrongs don’t make a right’ is yet another part of Catholic teaching that has been tossed away in favor of confirming to the American Conservative Movement.

Er, to what conservative-run media are you referring?

Just turn on your TV: NPR and MSNBC are about the only things NOT conservative run of course you got to keep that victim mentality going so call them liberal when they don’t back you up 100%

If terrorism is, and I quote, The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons, then I’d say you have a long way to go to prove this was an act of terrorism.

You should be ashamed for attacking these groups when the real villains apply the blood of innocents to their hands on a daily basis.

Oh yes Operation Rescue IS a terrorist group. Got a pagan friend that had is store front destroyed by them a few years ago and a few mates that have a nice limp thanks to them.

*This is, of course, assuming you pray to God. You might be praying to Moloch, under whom baby killing is not only approved but is compulsory.

Hey now a days Moloch perfers an offering of Chicken McNuggets. However I tend to pray to Zeus, Appolo, Hercules, Thor, Mars, Horus, Lugh, The Dagda, Indra, Shiva and a whole host of others.

This must be a example of Christian Love. Good example of your faith my friend.

I approve

He that loveth not, knoweth not God; for God is love. – John 4:8
Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins. – Proverbs 10:12
These things I command you, that ye love one another. – John 15:17

Aye more and more the real face is coming out these days.

 

[MrS]

You sound like you write for CNN.

hahaha brilliant…

 

[rlg94086]

I know the feeling of frustration Angels.

Child aborted: Outrage!

Child dies of starvation in the U.S. due to poverty and right wing anti-Welfare policy: Crikets chirp OR Blame Liberals.

That is the weakest response I’ve seen yet! Please provide a news report of a child dying of starvation “due to poverty and right wing anti-Welfare policy” and the posts blaming Liberals for the death.

What a joke.

Considering the millions of children aborted (i.e. innocents who are killed…by choice), your non-existent example pales in comparison.

 

[mike0219116]

I entered this thread knowing that, by the time I came to the last page, it would be an uncharitable mess.

You didn’t disappoint.

 

[Wowbagger]

Uncharitable? After the commendable exchange between aggie and rlg at the top of the page? After the measured and gentle responses shown by nearly everyone representing every viewpoint here? I don’t think you’re reading this thread very clearly, Mike. And, what’s more, I don’t think it’s terribly charitable to jump into a thread specifically to call everyone in it uncharitable, starting from an uncharitable expectation and continuing through an uncharitable reading.

As an aside, welcome to the Internet.

Now, back on topic. CBS, Newsweek, ABC, NBC, CNN, every large newspaper in the country except the Wall Street Journal. Thank you, come again.

As for your rather… provocative charges against Operation Rescue, cyberwolf I’d love to see a link substantiating your claims. Of course, if getting beat up by political operatives constitutes terrorism, then Walter Mondale and Paul Wellstone are accomplices to terrorism that took place on the floor of the Democratic National Convention in 1992. Said “terrorism” was committed by duly elected representatives of the Minnesota DFL party, which would make the Democratic Party of Minnesota, at least, a terrorist organization. Do you really want to go there?

 

[cyberwolf001]

That is the weakest response I’ve seen yet! Please provide a news report of a child dying of starvation “due to poverty and right wing anti-Welfare policy” and the posts blaming Liberals for the death.

What a joke.

Considering the millions of children aborted (i.e. innocents who are killed…by choice), your non-existent example pales in comparison.

I would but my any source I provided would get dismissed for having Liberal bias or being outdated or both.

 

[St_Francis]

I would but my any source I provided would get dismissed for having Liberal bias or being outdated or both.

You make that allegation, that children are dying of starvation in the USA because of conservative policies, and then refuse to back it up? You *can’t *back it up. There are food stamps and food pantries and free school lunch programs.

Now, I have heard of a few cases in which children were starved by parents or foster parents… but the reason they make the news is that it is so *rare. *