Abortion is a Satanic Sacrifice

[MtnDwellar]

To truly become a satnist or to attract satan there must be a blood sacrifice. This is one way to become a satanist without making the blood sacrifice yourself. Perhaps the satanist lives somewhere it would be too difficult to kill a small animal or anything else for that matter. But a dedication spell, such as dedicating abortions to satan would be your blood sacrifice.

Plus satanists believe he will “bless” them with what they want , generally power but sometimes money, possessions or sex. they also know to get what they want they have to give satan something he wants. He wants destruction of innocents and he needs a blood sacrifice. He wants something that will slap God in the face and what better way then with an abortion?

Have you followed the whole thread? Have you seen the videos ive posted in the past? If not i’ll re post them for you to watch at your convenience. Thank you for your interest in this thread

zac

I have followed at least most of the thread and watched one of your vids.

I understand about blood sacrifices. I don’t understand how one can remotely sacrifice the blood of a baby. If my neighbor kills his chicken, can I also offer that as a sacrifice?

 

[BluesPicker]

Venerable Fulton Sheen once gave an excellent talk on the Diabolic. You can watch it here: youtube.com/watch?v=7z3-F71abro

I will just summarize some of his points:

He talks about the Devil from the Psychiatric and from the Biblical perspectives.

From the Psychiatric perspective he cites Rollo May who analyzes the word “Diabolic.” The word Diabolic comes from the Greek “diabolos” and literally means “to tear apart” (dia-bollein). Anything, therefore, that breaks pattern, that destroys unity, that corrupts gestalt, produces discord - that is the diabolic. Rollo May analyzes the way in which the diabolic works. And he mentions three things: 1. Love of nudity, 2. Violence/Aggressiveness, 3. Split Personalities/No Inner Peace/Disjointed Minds.

From the Biblical Perspective, Sheen recalls the story of the Gerasene demoniac from the Gospels. Sheen recounts how Jesus went across the lake to land of the Gerasenes and there he found a man possessed by the devil. The Gospel mentions three characteristics of this young man. First, he was nude. Second, he was violent and aggressive - they could not even keep him in chains. And thirdly, his mind was split. Our Lord said to him, “What is your name?” The possessed man replied, “My name is Legion, for we are many.” Now, in the time of Jesus, a Legion was 6000 men in the Roman army. The man’s mind and personality was no longer unified.

Fulton Sheen notes that at the most basic level, the diabolic disrupts. And whenever you have a great manifestation of the Holy Spirit you always get the Devil working. When for instance Moses in the OT worked miracles against Pharoh, Pharoh’s agents simulated a few miracles. When the Holy Spirit came upon the early Church at Pentacost, there was the persecution of Saint Stephen. There was the outpouring and blessing of the Holy Spirit at Vatican II and immediately we had a manifestation of the evil spirit. Etc.

    Yes,  this is one of the best sermons  I ever heard.   I remember hearing another one by a young Bishop Sheen with no gray hair and a youthful face.  Archbishop  Sheen was speaking about his concern for deteriorating  Catholic morals & values.   The date this was given was in early  50's; but  I want to say 1948 which is probably impossible.

BP

 

[MtnDwellar]

Hello, world.

The world says:

HELLO ALAN

 

[erine]

We can offer the body and blood, soul and divinity of Jesus to the Lord at any time. We can offer all the masses being said around the world every day, all to the Father in heaven. We can also offer our own personal sufferings and works and joys to the Father united with Christ. Satan apes God and gets people to offer evil sinful blood offerings and gives them earthly rewards (with a heavy price) as opposed to the heavenly rewards we store up as Catholics. And just as I am not physically at every mass I offer when I offer all the masses being said around the world, satanists don’t have to have the abortions themselves to offer them by proxy. I didn’t even have to read the original post, just the subject, to figure out what zack meant. Of course Satan is going to do things that are a perversion and evil mockery of god, and since the center of our faith is the sacrifice of the mass, it logically follows that Satan followers would try to imitate that in the most perverse evils ways possible–such as black masses and offering abortions directly or indirectly to their false god.

Isn’t that radical of a statement…it’s a highly reasonable assumption even if you’ve never witnessed it.

The point that Catholics can’t offer other people’s sufferings bc of free will is important too. Satanists would try to violate free will, it’s only fitting…which just supports the abortions are offered as sacrifices thing. And yes, clearly being a satanist is unwise. To say the least.

 

[MtnDwellar]

We can offer the body and blood, soul and divinity of Jesus to the Lord at any time. We can offer all the masses being said around the world every day, all to the Father in heaven. We can also offer our own personal sufferings and works and joys to the Father united with Christ. Satan apes God and gets people to offer evil sinful blood offerings and gives them earthly rewards (with a heavy price) as opposed to the heavenly rewards we store up as Catholics. And just as I am not at every mass I offer, satanists don’t have to have the abortions themselves to offer them by proxy. I didn’t even have to read the original post, just the subject, to figure out what zack meant. Of course Satan is going to do things that are a perversion and evil mockery of god, and since the center of our faith is the sacrifice of the mass, it logically follows that Satan followers would try to imitate that in the most perverse evils ways possible–such as black masses and offering abortions directly or indirectly to their false god.

Isn’t that radical of a statement…it’s a highly reasonable assumption even if you’ve never witnessed it.

It does not follow logically for me!

As I said, Christ is the holy perfect sacrifice and we can offer His suffering to God through the Eucharist at every Mass. An abortion is not a sacrifice at that level. Is that what Satanists believe? Do they believe that abortions are the equivalent sacrifice of the passion of our Lord Jesus? Do they believe that every murder can be offered as a sacrifice to Satan, or just abortions? How about other mortal sins? Do they qualify as sacrifices, or just those that involve death?

 

[erine]

It does not follow logically for me!

As I said, Christ is the holy perfect sacrifice and we can offer His suffering to God through the Eucharist at every Mass. An abortion is not a sacrifice at that level. Is that what Satanists believe? Do they believe that abortions are the equivalent sacrifice of the passion of our Lord Jesus? Do they believe that every murder can be offered as a sacrifice to Satan, or just abortions? How about other mortal sins? Do they qualify as sacrifices, or just those that involve death?

Errrrrr no wait hold on. I don’t know what they believe. They are certainly confused. I meant that it is logical that they would DO this ritual in an ATTEMPT to make a sacrifice like the one we make. But inherent in anything of the devil is an inferior chaotic perversion of a true and good sacrifice. This goes back to my earlier point that evil and good are not equal and opposite. Good is greater and stronger, evil is twisted and a lack and pathetic aping of good.

Of course their sacrifice isn’t on the level of the true sacrifice to God! I just meant that it is almost self evident to me that satanists would practice such a sacrifice in a pathetic attempt to be like god.

Also to your other questions: you are thinking like a catholic and wanting to apply the organized way our church works to satanism. Although they say there is a hierarchy of demons in hell, Satan is super chaotic and misleading and false, so I don’t know if it makes sense to think satanists have such an organized understanding…I don’t know, but I just think about it…a satanic ritual rock show is probably a lot less organized than a mass, even if it has similar forms that it imitates…solely because of the nature of the event. Even a black mass with certain rituals is inherently chaotic because of the level of grave sin going on. An event at say a school with certain rituals could be neutral. Then a mass would be both with organized ritual and even more ordered than a secular event because the nature of the mass is a great good, God is a God of order not chaos, and so just because something is ritualistic doesn’t mean it is organized. Only something good can be ordered fully.

 

[MtnDwellar]

Errrrrr no wait hold on. I don’t know what they believe.

OK. I thought you were trying to field my question. Sorry.

Maybe one of the former Satanists will answer.

 

[erine]

OK. I thought you were trying to field my question. Sorry.

Maybe one of the former Satanists will answer.

I’m kind of just responding to people’s general confusion. Which included your question. I just needed to clarify my point that I don’t know what satanists are thinking, and the logical train I’m following is only that they would of course attempt to mimic our sacrifice in thte most evil ways possible, not that their sacrifice is in any way comparable or equal to ours.

 

[erine]

It does not follow logically for me!

As I said, Christ is the holy perfect sacrifice and we can offer His suffering to God through the Eucharist at every Mass. An abortion is not a sacrifice at that level. Is that what Satanists believe? Do they believe that abortions are the equivalent sacrifice of the passion of our Lord Jesus? Do they believe that every murder can be offered as a sacrifice to Satan, or just abortions? How about other mortal sins? Do they qualify as sacrifices, or just those that involve death?

The other thing is that they can never have an equivalent sacrifice of course…because they don’t have an anti-Christ…that is a spirit or an idea or way of acting, but they simply don’t have any one PERSON as strong as God. In the words of St. Michael, “Who is like unto God?” and even if they did (impossible, but for argument’s sake,)they could never have the same sacrifice level we do either, because ours is perfect and good, and theirs is evil and like all evil will be diminished and lose in the end…

 

[Aurora_Maria]

We can offer the body and blood, soul and divinity of Jesus to the Lord at any time. We can offer all the masses being said around the world every day, all to the Father in heaven. We can also offer our own personal sufferings and works and joys to the Father united with Christ. Satan apes God and gets people to offer evil sinful blood offerings and gives them earthly rewards (with a heavy price) as opposed to the heavenly rewards we store up as Catholics. And just as I am not physically at every mass I offer when I offer all the masses being said around the world, satanists don’t have to have the abortions themselves to offer them by proxy. I didn’t even have to read the original post, just the subject, to figure out what zack meant. Of course Satan is going to do things that are a perversion and evil mockery of god, and since the center of our faith is the sacrifice of the mass, it logically follows that Satan followers would try to imitate that in the most perverse evils ways possible–such as black masses and offering abortions directly or indirectly to their false god.

Isn’t that radical of a statement…it’s a highly reasonable assumption even if you’ve never witnessed it.

The point that Catholics can’t offer other people’s sufferings bc of free will is important too. Satanists would try to violate free will, it’s only fitting…which just supports the abortions are offered as sacrifices thing. And yes, clearly being a satanist is unwise. To say the least.

Wow!!! I don’t believe that I could have said it any better, I am truly impressed with you Erine!

 

[zackin]

I have followed at least most of the thread and watched one of your vids.

I understand about blood sacrifices. I don’t understand how one can remotely sacrifice the blood of a baby. If my neighbor kills his chicken, can I also offer that as a sacrifice?

you can but it doesn’t count as much as the blood of a baby. Also if your neighbor could kill a chicken you could too.

If this “by proxy” sounds confusing, remember that satan follows certain “laws”. I know it seems like he does what he wants but that’s not entirely true. He understands God’s rules a lot better then we do.He needs everyone that’s going to follow him to use their free will to do so. Even if we were lied to about what will happen if we use our free will (think Eve in the Garden of Eden here). Also remember in the Old Testament to properly worship God you had to make a blood sacrifice. Remember too that if you have a friend that has an issue (medical, physical, psychological etc) you can bless yourself with holy oil in proxy for them and name your intention in the prayer. Satan knows this and allows people to offer up blood sacrifices to him via the proxy of an abortion.

Thank you for a good question

 

[zackin]

We can offer the body and blood, soul and divinity of Jesus to the Lord at any time. We can offer all the masses being said around the world every day, all to the Father in heaven. We can also offer our own personal sufferings and works and joys to the Father united with Christ. Satan apes God and gets people to offer evil sinful blood offerings and gives them earthly rewards (with a heavy price) as opposed to the heavenly rewards we store up as Catholics. And just as I am not physically at every mass I offer when I offer all the masses being said around the world, satanists don’t have to have the abortions themselves to offer them by proxy. I didn’t even have to read the original post, just the subject, to figure out what zack meant. Of course Satan is going to do things that are a perversion and evil mockery of god, and since the center of our faith is the sacrifice of the mass, it logically follows that Satan followers would try to imitate that in the most perverse evils ways possible–such as black masses and offering abortions directly or indirectly to their false god.

Isn’t that radical of a statement…it’s a highly reasonable assumption even if you’ve never witnessed it.

The point that Catholics can’t offer other people’s sufferings bc of free will is important too. Satanists would try to violate free will, it’s only fitting…which just supports the abortions are offered as sacrifices thing. And yes, clearly being a satanist is unwise. To say the least.

Erine…thank you for sharing proper knowledge with the group. It’s very brave of you to speak the truth, especially in a room where TRUTH is attacked so often. Thank you for your voice

 

[erine]

Wow!!! I don’t believe that I could have said it any better, I am truly impressed with you Erine!

Thanks.

 

[erine]

Erine…thank you for sharing proper knowledge with the group. It’s very brave of you to speak the truth, especially in a room where TRUTH is attacked so often. Thank you for your voice

Not a problem, this is all very logical and clear to me so thought I should speak up. Why wouldn’t Satan want his followers to offer the one of the greatest evils of our time, the murder of innocents humans made in the image of God, to him? He’s ultimate self centeredness and evil so of course he would want to take one of the gravest evils, and have it all be for him. Destined to fail, of course, and he knows it, just trying to drag as many souls down with him as possible.

St. Michael, pray for us.

The fact that abortion is so institutonalized I always saw as the devil just applying modern technology and efficiency and globalism to his evil work. Very evil. We must fight & pray.

Also then people project their collective trauma about abortion onto animals, (not made in the image and likeness of God, lest we forget) and suddenly PETA is putting red paint on everyone and people refuse to eat cheese. And I’m guessing Satan loves this too…not that treating animals well is bad, animals are great and we should be good stewards (which sometimes means eating them ) but Satan loves that we could care less about human beings being murdered and then place animals above human beings.

 

[Aurora_Maria]

Erine…thank you for sharing proper knowledge with the group. It’s very brave of you to speak the truth, especially in a room where TRUTH is attacked so often. Thank you for your voice

 

[Aurora_Maria]

Thanks.

 

[zackin]

Errrrrr no wait hold on. I don’t know what they believe. They are certainly confused. I meant that it is logical that they would DO this ritual in an ATTEMPT to make a sacrifice like the one we make. But inherent in anything of the devil is an inferior chaotic perversion of a true and good sacrifice. This goes back to my earlier point that evil and good are not equal and opposite. Good is greater and stronger, evil is twisted and a lack and pathetic aping of good.

Of course their sacrifice isn’t on the level of the true sacrifice to God! I just meant that it is almost self evident to me that satanists would practice such a sacrifice in a pathetic attempt to be like god.

Also to your other questions: you are thinking like a catholic and wanting to apply the organized way our church works to satanism. Although they say there is a hierarchy of demons in hell, Satan is super chaotic and misleading and false, so I don’t know if it makes sense to think satanists have such an organized understanding…I don’t know, but I just think about it…a satanic ritual rock show is probably a lot less organized than a mass, even if it has similar forms that it imitates…solely because of the nature of the event. Even a black mass with certain rituals is inherently chaotic because of the level of grave sin going on. An event at say a school with certain rituals could be neutral. Then a mass would be both with organized ritual and even more ordered than a secular event because the nature of the mass is a great good, God is a God of order not chaos, and so just because something is ritualistic doesn’t mean it is organized. Only something good can be ordered fully.

Erine & Mtndwellar

Go to this site and listen to the interview. Listen more to the woman conducting the interview though. I explain what i did and she explains it from the opposite perspective. What it means. when she explained this it was the 1st time i had heard anything like it.

gloria.tv/?media=216410. This will help you both understand what’s going on.

 

[erine]

Erine & Mtndwellar

Go to this site and listen to the interview. Listen more to the woman conducting the interview though. I explain what i did and she explains it from the opposite perspective. What it means. when she explained this it was the 1st time i had heard anything like it.

gloria.tv/?media=216410. This will help you both understand what’s going on.

Okay thanks will watch. Like I said, I am no expert, just trying to use reason.

 

[MtnDwellar]

Is there a specific ritual used to offer abortions as a sacrifice?

*watching the video.

 

[zackin]

It does not follow logically for me!

As I said, Christ is the holy perfect sacrifice and we can offer His suffering to God through the Eucharist at every Mass. An abortion is not a sacrifice at that level. Is that what Satanists believe? Do they believe that abortions are the equivalent sacrifice of the passion of our Lord Jesus? Do they believe that every murder can be offered as a sacrifice to Satan, or just abortions? How about other mortal sins? Do they qualify as sacrifices, or just those that involve death?

most satanists don’t see mortal sins. they don’t know really the dif in venial and mortal, if they recognize sinning at all. When i was a satanist i come from being Protestant. I didn’t know a thing about the Catholic church. So to me you either sinned or you didn’t.Within the Baptist church they say all sins are equal. A little white lie is the same as murder because a sin is a sin. Now that I’m Catholic i pray everyday for the protestants.

And yes murder of anyone can be offered up to satan but he prefers innocents being destroyed, So murder of an elderly person doesn’t have as much weight as murder of a teen. Murder of a teen wouldn’t have as much weight as murder of a child. And murder of a child (although heinous and horrific) holds less weight that that of an totally uncorrupted, completely sinless baby (in or out of the womb). However, in the womb , since it hasn’t been born yet, the mother hasn’t passed along the original sin to it yet so in the womb is an even bigger sacrifice.