Abusing muhammad?

[Agabriel]

Indeed and muslims have no problem stopping and praying where ever they are during prayer times and yet, we don’t say anything or “persecute” them.

I see them on the streets of New York city and especially on Friday prayers, they all line up on the sidewalks with the mats at hand, shoes off and do their thing.

We tolarate it, yet, they can’t tolarate our beliefs…

They are becoming more bold.

they are not taught to tolerate others. I wonder what they would do if we started saying the rosary in front of them, or next to their businesses. Just a thought - this is still the USA.

But, they are taught that islam is to be supreme over the others and that is where the subjugation comes in.

 

[chrisse]

They are becoming more bold.

they are not taught to tolerate others. I wonder what they would do if we started saying the rosary in front of them, or next to their businesses. Just a thought - this is still the USA.

But, they are taught that islam is to be supreme over the others and that is where the subjugation comes in.

Join me, whenever I see a muslim now, a make the sign of the cross. No more, no less, keep on walking as usual.

By the way, they don’t like it. Some are confused, but it’s early in the campaign. If this develops into a huge movement - a silent, but potent, protest, it just may force the discussion on the truth of islam, and it’s persecution of non-muslims around the world NOW and for the last 1400 years.

I am not suggesting this for anyone living in a majority islamic country.

 

[jakasaki]

Join me, whenever I see a muslim now, a make the sign of the cross. No more, no less, keep on walking as usual.

By the way, they don’t like it. Some are confused, but it’s early in the campaign. If this develops into a huge movement - a silent, but potent, protest, it just may force the discussion on the truth of islam, and it’s persecution of non-muslims around the world NOW and for the last 1400 years.

I am not suggesting this for anyone living in a majority islamic country.

I never thought to bring my Bible in on Fridays so I may stand behind the muslims on the side walks and read out loud passages from God’s Great Book!

Too bad I can’t do that now,…

Like so many millions of Americans I too am unemployed and no longer working in Manhattan…

 

[Agabriel]

Here is how they behave when they become even more bold:

Sweden: muslims shoot rockets and throw pipe bombs at Jews

we already see how they behave in the UK - the police run from them. I would put a shrug icon on that statement, but I do believe that it is time for their military to step up and control them. If they cannot behave as civilized people then the military should be called out.

In Europe, their riots have proven they cannot behave. But, as long as the UK and Europe are too afraid to call a ‘spade a spade’ then they will continue to have problems that will get worse and eventually be a pig sty of violence just like Bosnia, Lebanon, etc are. And the muslims will twist it to make everyone think it is they who are the victims. This scenario is being replayed all the time all over this globe.

 

[Agabriel]

I never thought to bring my Bible in on Fridays so I may stand behind the muslims on the side walks and read out loud passages from God’s Great Book!

Too bad I can’t do that now,…

Like so many millions of Americans I too am unemployed and no longer working in Manhattan…

I think we should do it as a group. It would be too dangerous to do it alone.

Do not put yourself in harms way. The muslims (yeah, even those ‘peaceful’ ones) have not proven themselves to be able to behave themselves.

I am also sorry to hear about your predicament. I hope things become better for you and soon!

 

[jakasaki]

I think we should do it as a group. It would be too dangerous to do it alone.

Do not put yourself in harms way. The muslims (yeah, even those ‘peaceful’ ones) have not proven themselves to be able to behave themselves.

I am also sorry to hear about your predicament. I hope things become better for you and soon!

Thank you dear agabriel - I would like to see the light at the end of the tunnel with unemployment, but, alas… the “unemployment pool” is way too big and the “employment pool” is non-existant.

As far as when I worked in Mahattan, all of my lunch buddies were Catholic… So I would have never been alone… and besides, Jesus is always with me!~



Thank you for you kind words… Happy Friday!

 

[R_not]

Thank you dear agabriel - I would like to see the light at the end of the tunnel with unemployment, but, alas… the “unemployment pool” is way too big and the “employment pool” is non-existant.

As far as when I worked in Mahattan, all of my lunch buddies were Catholic… So I would have never been alone… and besides, Jesus is always with me!~



Thank you for you kind words… Happy Friday!

hhhmmm, seems that if you are a woman - all you have to do is pass in front of them and it nulls their praying.

Bukhari: Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman if they pass in front of the praying people.

 

[jakasaki]

hhhmmm, seems that if you are a woman - all you have to do is pass in front of them and it nulls their praying.

Bukhari: Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman if they pass in front of the praying people.

Oh no - Good God!

These muslims were smart and placed their mats up against the walls of the buildings, therefore nothing can walk in front of them.


So - no, nothing nulled their prayer…

Happy Friday to you R-Not…!

 

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[R_not]

Oh no - Good God!

These muslims were smart and placed their mats up against the walls of the buildings, therefore nothing can walk in front of them.


So - no, nothing nulled their prayer…

Happy Friday to you R-Not…!

Take note how they think of their own women. So, basically a camel, a pig, a chicken, etc can all walk in front of them and that is a-ok!

(I thought pigs rated down there below donkeys?! - I guess not, they rate higher than their own women! )

 

[brigantine]

(I thought pigs rated down there below donkeys?! - I guess not, they rate higher than their own women! )

I can’t wait till one of our female muslim posters defend this as muslim really showing women respect. Yeah they respect them so much that if more that their eyes are showing they will rape them!

 

[Agabriel]

I can’t wait till one of our female muslim posters defend this as muslim really showing women respect. Yeah they respect them so much that if more that their eyes are showing they will rape them!

I can’t find this video where I saw a muslim male grabbing the butt of a muslim woman who was wearing a tent and this happened in Saudi Arabia. Now, I already knew this but what it shows that rape, disrespect and just poor behavior has nothing to do with whether a woman wears a tent or not. The woman ran from him and I suppose she probably was afraid since she would be at fault. What this shows me is a society based on the man having no responsibility for his actions.

The ‘boys will be boys’ scenario perverted into the woman will be beaten or killed if she is caught with a man misbehaving.

Of course, it has been our Western societies that have figured out that rape has nothing to do with sex, but with other mental problems of control, rage, etc. The muslim societies don’t even bother to do any research themselves or to understand the our findings in this area. Nope. Allah said it was the woman’s fault and by god that is what it is!

 

[sedonaman]

What this shows me is a society based on the man having no responsibility for his actions.

It’s actually worse than what it shows. As a man, you will be rewarded in Islamic paradise if you revert to your feral nature for the sake of Allah.

 

[Eucharisted]

I think some Muslims attack Jews so they can hasten the coming of Jesus (Islam teaches that Muslims and Jews will fight one another, either before Jesus comes or when He comes).

 

[chrisse]

I think some Muslims attack Jews so they can hasten the coming of Jesus (Islam teaches that Muslims and Jews will fight one another, either before Jesus comes or when He comes).

That would be Iran and the Shiite. They are waiting for the 12th Imam to return.

Unfortunately, islamic anti-semitism has been rampant for 1400 years as well. And let’s not forget anti-Christianism (just to add another ism). The status of dhimmi was precarious, sometimes sufferable, but always precarious and humiliating.

The historical facts of the islamic imperialists have been known, but largely ignored in our Western account of history, let alone in our education. No doubt, the fact that the “West” just charged ahead scientifically, technically and financially, with the islamic imperialists left squandering in the sewers they produced. The razzia’s that we always a part of having a border with a islamic imperialist nation, were treated as mosquito bites, rather than something to stop.

Fortunately, now that islamic imperialism is rising again, those historical facts are being given the treatment that should have had in the first place.

 

[Agabriel]

It isn’t only the Christians and Jews - it is the Hindus, Buddhists and basically anyone who isn’t a muslim. The jihads that have split India up into Pakistan and now they are going after Kashmir and some more of India is just as bad. The only thing is that us Westerners just go ‘la dee da dee dum’ about it all and ignore it.

There were Zorastrians that were wiped out of the Middle East. I do believe that there are still some in Russia (I could be wrong but I remember there is still a group of them somewhere).

And all the different pagan religions that muslims have wiped out.

It meant a lot of death, bloodshed, torure and enslavement. Many just converted out of force (enslavement, or just unbearable times as a dhimmi, or saving one’s life instead of being killed). Oh yeah - that ‘there is no compulsion in religion’ is just hooey for them to tell us so as to make themselves feel good and to make our idiots who believe them feel good.

Anyway, it just isn’t the Jews and Christians who have been slaughtered by muslims - anyone not a muslim is fair game for them.

 

[Sam_777]

I think some Muslims attack Jews so they can hasten the coming of Jesus (Islam teaches that Muslims and Jews will fight one another, either before Jesus comes or when He comes).

Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 6985:
‘The Last Hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: `Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him’; but the tree Gharkad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.’

صحيح مسلم:
أن رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏قال ‏ ‏لا تقوم الساعة حتى يقاتل المسلمون ‏ ‏اليهود ‏ ‏فيقتلهم المسلمون حتى يختبئ اليهودي من وراء الحجر والشجر فيقول الحجر أو الشجر يا مسلم يا عبد الله هذا يهودي خلفي فتعال فاقتله إلا ‏ ‏الغرقد ‏ ‏فإنه من شجر ‏ ‏اليهود ‏
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[nosadl]

** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Salaam/ Peace

Muhammed (peace be upon him ) is respected by billion Muslims in the earth . We don’t expect that Christians will accept him as a Prophet . But condemn our beloved Prophet in nasty / offensive languages , provoking Muslims all the time by claming that he was a child molester , wife beater , killer , liar etc , stil your wonder if you are abusing him or not ?

If u browse Jewish forum , u will see how some participants claim Jesus (peace be upon him) used to bath in river with other men & that is a proof that he was a … ( too dirty to mention ) .

God knows your heart . So , pl. don’t clain that u don’t want to show disrespect to Muhammed (p) .

I know , some Christians will keep writing nasty posts - let them do it . God is watching us & He will be the just ruler on the final day.

To you be your Way, and to me mine. (holy Quran ; 109:6)

why idolize a man who did nothing but aggrandize and enrichen himself? who was not saintly nor holy? who has misled so many?why get upset when reasonable persons expose him for who he is. and nobody at the forum makes any of these facts up. they are from Muslim sources. do not muslims in the 21st century have the courage to accept that Muhammad is not who he claimed he was? 7th century muslims were too cowardly, too self interested to say it? come on. why call a man like him “beloved”? if you were aisha’s mother, would he still be beloved when he, a 50+ year old man, came and claimed divine sanction to take your 6 year old daughter as a wife?.

Praying for you to be courageous for truth and reject islam which in your heart you know is false…

 

[nosadl]

Rather, I think you have missed the point. You said what more or less means that the major fallacy of the Qur’an was in claiming that Jesus wasn’t crucified. And you used for proof of crucifixion the writings of Josephus. Meaning that Josephus is more authoritative than God (i.e., Qur’an.) Historians can’t really report the truth if it isn’t available or widely known. Whereas God witnesses all things, and can report the truth that is otherwise unknown. The Qur’an is from God–far more authoritative than anything else you can produce.

I forget sometimes people still believe this nonsense. You’re convinced that there were 600 years worth of eyewitnesses to the life of Jesus. I wonder when sense will strike you, and how you will respond. More to the point, the “trial” of Jesus is pretty much irrelevant, since I haven’t taken one side or the other as to the historical accuracy of it. It is only the death and crucifixion part to which I object. And quite frankly, I’m much more willing to believe God’s word preserved for 1400 years than I am anything you could produce.

Makes you wonder, doesn’t it, why would the Qur’an claim such a strange thing then, if it weren’t true?

Muhammad didn’t write the Qur’an. Haven’t I made that clear yet? Should I put it in my signature?

Do you really believe this to be the case? Have not some of your brethren claimed that Muhammad was only repeating a “gnostic heresy?” Implying therefore that such a claim, regarding Jesus’s death, had in fact been questioned before the Qur’an. Food for thought. Either way–I trust God’s words on the matter over those of men.

I never said otherwise. I have read some of Josephus, by the way–and I have also read some scholars of his work who consider the passages regarding the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ to be forgeries… ouch! But that’s neither here nor there. Let’s take the writings at their word, for now.

Again, you assume I don’t know who Josephus was. I guess I can say you’re missing the point. Who knows better what really happened–God, or Josephus? Simple question, I would think. The very fact that the Qur’anic account differs from Christian theology is reason to take notice, and quite frankly given your poor evidence, a reason to believe the Qur’an instead.

Rewrite history? The truth was covered, hidden. The Qur’an actually revealed the truth.

Why do you think he didn’t, then? Why would he say that Jesus didn’t die at all, and was just raised up to heaven? Unless it were true!

Rather, God said it. Are you claiming that God does not know what happened? I’ve never seen any indisputable proof that (a) John witnessed the alleged crucifixion of Jesus, or that (b) John actually recorded it in the Gospel you refer to as John.

It’s easy to pretend that others are wrong. But in this case, it’s you who were mistaken. Muhammad wouldn’t have said a word on the subject except that God revealed the truth. It’s time for you to listen to it.

I called them liars, did I? Don’t be silly.

Your first error is to believe that Muhammad was merely repeating God’s words. You cling on to it as if it was gospel truth. That does not make for scholarly analysis. The quran is only as good as the person who claims it is true. In this case that person was hopelessly immoral. Your faith is misplaced.

Well, i’ll pray you have courage to accept that islam is not the way,