Afterlife and science?

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Well, he’s the neuroscientist who says otherwise. But what would he know. 😃

Jim
 
I have read hundreds and hundreds NDEs and there is one thing I find super mega interesting. The atheist and those who never read bible met Jesus after death and many of them described the fire in his eyes. In Revelation it says “his eyes are like a flame of fire”. What do u think of that?
 
Don’t most NDEs that have a religious experience always have one from the point of view of their own beliefs? Muslims experience Allah or Muhammad, Hindus experience one of their gods, even atheists experience no God or religious dimension. To me, this tends to make me agree with @FiveLinden. It’s a pre death experience, not post death. We know the bright lights and sensation of traveling a tunnel are due to oxygen deprivation. They can be reproduced.

From my not very extensive reading on the subject, every experiment performed in operating rooms where there has been a claimed NDE, they failed to see items placed to determine if they actually were leaving their bodies and would see these items if they did. Sorry, I’m still skeptical about them.
 
The majority of NDE’s as well as Dr Eben Alexander testimony, they were not religious to begin with and many were atheists

It seems that God gives them this gift to help them, but also in order that they’ll share the message.
 
Hawking was not a neurosciencist, so why does his opinion count as representing modern neuroscience? Find a quote from an expert in neuroscience that contradicts with the concept of a soul and then we can discuss your premise.
 
Perhaps a misuse of the term metaphysical, but I get what your saying and I agree.
 
NDE’s aren’t something that the Church aproves of so I’d be weary of relying on them.
 
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Don’t most NDEs that have a religious experience always have one from the point of view of their own beliefs? Muslims experience Allah or Muhammad, Hindus experience one of their gods, even atheists experience no God or religious dimension.
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I’ve read thousands of NDEs and have yet to read of any evolving the prophet Muhammad or a Hindu God, people see either a nondescript powerful loving light or Jesus Christ.
 
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Be mindful that Lou Gehrig’s disease, the disease more often affect social cognitive abilities including lack sympathy or empathy in the later stages of the disease. I have always found that many of his later statements are blunt and rather black and white. His statement “There is no God,” was basic with no er on ‘we just don’t know’ or ‘unable to prove’’

Thinking and Behavior integral part of the Lou Gehrig’s disease, I wonder if he would have stated such in the way he did if he did not have Lou Gehrig’s disease which is a terminal disease.

Here is a video discussion on LGD by a University of Edinburgh neuropsychologist Sharon Abrahams PhD to back my thoughts on the reliability of SH statements.

 
I assume you were saying the mind is a combination of the physical, ie the brain, and the spiritual, is the soul. Metaphysical is defined as relating to metaphysics, which is the study of being. Saying the soul is metaphysical is slightly off. All things that exist , matetial and spiritual, fall under metaphysics.
 
I suppose transcendent would be better to describe the soul but the soul is deeply connected to metaphysical matters.
 
Yes, transcendent is a very good way. I agree the soul is deeply connected to metaphysical matters, so is the body.

OTOH, once people deny the supernatural, they quickly lose interest in metaphysics.
 
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He says the Cerebral Cortex was destroyed by the disease.

Jim
 
‘Destroyed’ is not a scientific term, Were his brain cells dead or not?
 
I’m using lay terms because I’m not a scientist

I suggest you listen to Dr Eben Alexander himself as he does it better and with details.


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For some great research on the brain see the work of James H Austin.
He is a brain scientist who also meditates. He gets pretty technical but also has non technical reflections.

www.zenandthebrain.com

Zen and The Brain

James H Austin website
www.zenandthebrain.com
 
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