Ag_nots Catholic Scriptural Challenge - just ONE proven example wins!!

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notsmart said:
Here we go again. If you don’t repent, you are okay. If you don’t repent, you never were one to begin with.:bighanky: :imsorry: :coolinoff:
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Methinks you hear what you want to hear.
I am on the East Coast and it is almost 2 am. I hope some of this has been enlightening. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
 
Martin777 said:
I would never say that. I am born again and I sin every day. I don’t want to, and I hate it when I do, but I know I am forgiven, and by God’s grace I am growing. But regardless of how far I progress, God assures me that He will never forsake me.
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But you can forsake Him. God will never turn His back on you, but you can-- even after really truly, leading a life of repentance and peace with God, sometimes a traumatic event happens and people lose Faith or get angry with God-- and refuse to repent. Now, you can’t tell me that unrepentance person will go straight to Heaven after death, can you?🤷
 
Matariel said:
But you can forsake Him. God will never turn His back on you, but you can-- even after really truly, leading a life of repentance and peace with God, sometimes a traumatic event happens and people lose Faith or get angry with God-- and refuse to repent. Now, you can’t tell me that unrepentance person will go straight to Heaven after death, can you?🤷
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Jesus took all the wrath for the child of God. That is why Paul can boldly say there is NO condemnation for him. So many more verses. Let’s talk more tomorrow. God Bless.
 
Martin777 said:
I was assuming that with all you know, you might have had a moment of forgetfulness! What do you think about that parable where they are given levels of responsibility based on their performance? Could that be a foreshadow of something in heaven?
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Yes, you will be spending more time there praying for those here. Its so simple, I am sure you knew that one!😉
That can only magnify His Holy Name!
Get ready for lots of praying when you get there.👍
Keep us in yours when you get there.
 
Martin777 said:
Jesus took all the wrath for the child of God. That is why Paul can boldly say there is NO condemnation for him. So many more verses. Let’s talk more tomorrow. God Bless.
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God is faithful, even if we are not. You believe we cant be unfaithful, and Jesus pulls our strings once we are “born again”.
We just cant mess up. If we do, it was a false being “born again”.
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By the way, do you believe in water baptism in the trinitarian formula as Jesus himself had, or do you think thats irrelevant?
A silly waste of water?
 
Martin777 said:
And you’ve never heard that before? There’s probably a lot more you haven’t heard. Stick around…tomorrow.
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Nope. Never heard that heaven will be populated with unrepentent serial killers, serial rapists,etc. That’s a new one on me!
 
Martin777 said:
I believe there is only one sin we can’t be saved from–What Jesus called the 'blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" I believe a ‘sin unto death’ is when one of God’s CHILDREN (saved) sins to the point that God takes him home–kills him, takes him off the street!
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Do you have anything to substantiate that interpretation?

By “sin unto death” I’m assuming you mean the “deadly sin” that St.John mentioned. Furthermore, in that passage we were talking about involving deadly sin, St. John says to pray for the brother in Christ who commits a non-deadly sin. However, he says don’t bother praying for forgiveness of the brother who commits a mortal sin. If what you’re saying is true, that a “deadly sin” is a sin God’s going to kill you for, then how were the people this epistle’s addressed to supposed to know the difference, as St. John presumes? It appears you’re reading your own opinion (eisigesis) into the Scriptures.
 
Indyann said:
Nope. Never heard that heaven will be populated with serial killers, serial rapists,etc. That’s a new one on me!
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But, it seems then they were “fakes” or never saved or not born again to begin with.🤷
Because a born again will do things the holy spirit is working in them.
But, if they dont repent of sin, the Holy Spirit is not bothered by that, because they are saved.
But, if they dont repent of sin, they never were saved or not born again to begin with.:bigyikes:
 
notsmart said:
But, it seems then they were “fakes” or never saved or not born again to begin with.🤷
Because a born again will do things the holy spirit is working in them.
But, if they dont repent of sin, the Holy Spirit is not bothered by that, because they are saved.
But, if they dont repent of sin, they never were saved or not born again to begin with.:bigyikes:
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But God still takes them straight to heaven. Yeah, right.

I know God is a merciful Father, but He is also just. The whole scenario is just not logical.
 
Indyann said:
Nope. Never heard that heaven will be populated with unrepentent serial killers, serial rapists,etc. That’s a new one on me!
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:rotfl:

LOL… funny.

Well, gee. I might as well go out tonight, get drunk, and find me some women.

No condemnation fo’ me! 😃
 
Matariel said:
:rotfl:

LOL… funny.

Well, gee. I might as well go out tonight, get drunk, and find me some women.

No condemnation fo’ me! 😃
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And I thik I will take out my walker and go stand on the street corner. No problem!:crutches:

Better stop or we’re going to get some of these from Ag-not.:okpeople: :tsktsk: :tsktsk: :tsktsk:

👋 Ag_not Good thread!
 
Matariel said:
:rotfl:

LOL… funny.

Well, gee. I might as well go out tonight, get drunk, and find me some women.

No condemnation fo’ me! 😃
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Luther would be so proud! (if he thought you were serious - like he was) And then they wonder why America is the way it is - a wolf in sheep’s clothes.
 
Indyann said:
And I thik I will take out my walker and go stand on the street corner. No problem!:crutches:
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:rotfl: :eek:
Better stop or we’re going to get some of these from Ag-not.:okpeople:
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:eek: Oh right. I already have one demerit from Ag-Not.

Anyway, I eagerly await Martin777’s responses. Or any other Protestant or Orthodox that comes sauntering in. :coffeeread:
 
Martin777 said:
I believe a ‘sin unto death’ is when one of God’s CHILDREN (saved) sins to the point that God takes him home–kills him, takes him off the street!
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Awesome! Why follow doctrine and all this “prayer” nonsense when I can get to heaven by doing crazy stuff that’ll get me on TV? 😃 😃 I’ll worry about proper scripture interpretation later.

Sorry. I had this crazy urge to join in. :o
 
notsmart said:
But, it seems then they were “fakes” or never saved or not born again to begin with.🤷
Because a born again will do things the holy spirit is working in them.
But, if they dont repent of sin, the Holy Spirit is not bothered by that, because they are saved.
But, if they dont repent of sin, they never were saved or not born again to begin with.:bigyikes:
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**Oh OSAS I like that one! can I play? Who has the wine bottle, I can see what is going on here~!

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notsmart said:
God is faithful, even if we are not. You believe we cant be unfaithful, and Jesus pulls our strings once we are “born again”.
We just cant mess up. If we do, it was a false being “born again”.
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**Hi notsmart, Dear, don’t be confused You actually understand the concept as they think! Funny isn’t it? Funnier still is that they actually believe it.

And they have been proven right.:eek: No one who was once saved ever sinned, if they did ~ they weren’t saved! It is called circular logic, if that matters! **

By the way, do you believe in water baptism in the trinitarian formula as Jesus himself had, or do you think thats irrelevant?
A silly waste of water?

**As Jesus himself had? **

God Bless
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