Alabama - God's country

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Peeps said:
even if it offends those with more open thinking.
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It doesn’t necessarily offend them. They take offence. Being over sensitised is a losing battle for both sides.
The truth is readon, free from passion - Aristotles.(pagan guy wasn’t he…)
 
vz71 said:
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Bradskii:
I was wondering why you were talking about reproduction and birth when the subject was infertile couples.
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Actually, the topic is “Alabama - God’s country”

You decided to reply to a tangent a couple of times before realizing your untenable position.
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I’m still wondering, v.
 
CCHcolonel said:
To adopt children who need a home.
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Can you guys PLEASE learn how to use the quote function? I honestly can’t be bothered to keep scrolling back just to see to what nugget of wisom you may be referring.

Thanks in anticipation.
 
Peeps said:
But they’re getting older and older, and many of their children are people like me, who grew up learning that racism is a sin and try to practice charity and mercy towards all. Once all those old folks are gone, they won’t be around to offend anymore. Give 'em a break–it’s tough to get old, sick, and frail, and to come to the end of your life. Respect them for their age, if nothing else. And you practice what liberals preach–tolerance and love for ALL, including those you disagree with.
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I’m making no accusation towards you, but be careful about such sentiments. We ended up with Jim Crow because people assumed making a few amendments to the Constitution and passing some laws enacted equality for people of color and then took their eye off the ball. Just because we sainted MLK and passed some civil rights bills does not mean we can assume all is good. .Just because we aren’t seeing little kids being hit by fire hoses, churches being burnt, raving racist lunatics, or Klan morons marching around in public, does not mean the end of racism. What exists is smarter and more subtle; sometimes to the point that a person is not truly conscience of it.
 
Pattylt said:
It is so ingrained in the psych that many never get over it. My step mother no longer keeps strict kosher but still won’t touch pork or shellfish. She can’t even stand the smell. But it varies
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Kind of like me and my husband and alcohol. One of the reasons why we don’t seem to fit in at our Catholic parish is that so many of the events and socials involve alcohol, and we just can’t get past 47 years of Evangelical Protestant teetotaling. It kind of limits our social opportunities in the Catholic world, although we fit in beautifully in Evangelical Protestant circles.

Nowadays, many Evangelical Protestant sects have relaxed their stand against alcohol and enjoy a beer, a glass of wine, etc. But both of us were raised by strict prohibitions against alcohol, and I doubt we’ll ever take a drink.
 
PJH_74 said:
What exists is smarter and more subtle; sometimes to the point that a person is not truly conscience of it.
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But if someone is not truly conscious of something, how can it possibly be corrected?

That’s what I’m talking about–the vague hints that someone is “racist” just because he/she is white and that it is “ingrained in whiteness”–I’ve heard speeches and read articles that leave me shaking my head saying, “What exactly are we doing?!!”

Several years back we had a required workshop in our workplace about Eliminating Racism. The workshop was quite disturbing–we were supposed to agree not just to tolerate things that we disagree with (e.g., two “married” men raising a little baby girl, two lesbians kissing passionately, etc.), but we were supposed to CELEBRATE the “differences”.

I was so upset that I didn’t come to work the next day.

One of the things that we were told at that workshop is not to ever twirl or play with our long “white people” hair (straight) because black women found it highly offensive.

WHAT!??

IMO, how can we stop offending people if they don’t tell us what offends them? And frankly, I can’t help what my genetics have made me–a person with straight, blonde (more gray than blonde now!) hair, and if I appear to be “playing” with my hair, it’s probably because it’s in my eyes.

If it can’t be spelled out and examples given, then it’s not racism. No one can accuse me of being 'born racist" just because I’m white.

Again, what does this have to do with Alabama.? George Wallace is long dead (R.I.P.) and at the end of his life, he repented of much of the hatred that he had spewed when he was young. Many of those who knew and love George Wallace and followed his bad example are also dead and gone (R.I.P.) and those who came after them are probably like me–trying very hard to live a life of “peace and love,” as Janet Lynn used to say.
 
Actually, according to Orthodox Judaism, health concerns were never the reason for prohibitions against pork and shellfish. The reason is that Gd commanded it, plain and simple. Why did Gd command it? Was the reason to separate the Jewish people from the gentiles? We don’t know why.

Confession time: I grew up in a kosher home; however, my parents and I would eat out in the local Chinese restaurant, and we ate shrimp and lobster, that is, my mother and I did, not my father. But the home was strictly kosher; we never ordered Chinese food or any non-kosher food. This may seem non-sensical, but it was the norm for many Jews of that time. Today I still will not eat pork, and shellfish only rarely. Of course there are 1001 other rules involving kosher food, mixing dairy products and meat products, and koshering food, utensils, dishes, sinks, Passover rules, and what not. I do cheat on some of these except during Passover.
 
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Peeps said:
I stopped at a little gas station–not a chain, but a home-grown station, all gray and weatherbeaten, with several men sitting outside.

When I asked for directions, one of the men jumped up and said, “I’ll get in my truck, and you just follow me!”

So I did, and within a few minutes, I was waving goodbye to my good shepherd and safely back on the Interstate!
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It’s funny how fear can completely change one’s perspective on things.

I wouldn’t have dared ask for directions at that station. I’m not too proud to admit I would have been terrified to do so. I’m African American, and I lived in Appalachia for several years. I had the misfortune of having people tell me things like “If I were you, I’d get back in that car and keep driving”. I didn’t stick around to find out what would have happened if I didn’t get back in my car.

I also had a very uncomfortable conversation with an “ex-klansman” about how mountain folks weren’t racist. In his words, “If you stick with your own kind, you won’t have any problems.” He then told me a story about how they had to “run off” a “colored fella” who came down there talking about integration and civil rights…
Peeps said:
One of the things that we were told at that workshop is not to ever twirl or play with our long “white people” hair (straight) because black women found it highly offensive.
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I am an African-American woman. I have NEVER met another African american woman who was offended by hair flipping! What in the world?
 
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I sincerely hope you are right and I am wrong about the current state of race relations in Alabama.
 
But, so I understand, you have to admit racism is not nearly as bad as it once was. Are you optimistic about the future?
 
It’s hard to do. When I was young we were driving to Ohio and stopped in Georgia at a motel. We were told We don’t serve Jews here. And it wasn’t said kindly…we quickly left.

These little experiences last a lifetime and as much as Georgia is a beautiful state with wonderful people, I don’t know that I could ever choose to live there.

I think the same is with blacks. If they experienced an overt racist remark, they can try and even succeed at forgiving…but will never forget. We all need to strive for any minority to never have one of those experiences. We may not succeed, but we must try.
 
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That twirling long, straight “white people” hair is offensive to black women. It sounds like a white person’s fantasy. And considering the lack of diversity in any given field I doubt a POC was asked for their (name removed by moderator)ut for that training. The way it was described it doesn’t sound like a ton of thought was put into it. It sounds like something my racist, homophobic coworker might pull together in a few hours.

I’ve read about some black women desiring long, straight, blonde hair and I think that is still some ideal hair type. And I think most women have wanted that kind of hair at some point. Fortunately we are moving toward working with and loving one’s own hair type. But I also think it is more complex for POCs due to workplaces and schools prohibiting natural hairstyles.
 
Nothing is impossible for God. Sarah conceived despite being well past menopause. Rebekkah, Rachel, Manoah, Hannah, and Elizabeth were all thought barren until God heard their prayers and granted them the ability to conceive. Amen, even though necessary organs be lacking, God may still answer His faithful ones, yet God alone is above Nature and not bound by it. He will not show favor on those who commit crimes against Nature.
 
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