All the single ladies ... and men

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Green Light: Devout Catholic, Confident, Good Sense of Humor, Kind, Understanding, Humble, Finds my humor palatable,

Red Light: Passive toward faith, Selfish, Immodest dress (ala J-Shore)
 
Green flag:
  • Compassionate
  • Great sense of humor
  • Feminist (yes, men too can believe in equality for women)
  • Non-smoker
  • Vegan
  • Understands that my children ALWAYS come first. FOREVER.
  • Sleeps in another room; my pet pig sleeps with me and that ain’t gonna change
  • Devout in any faith, as long as it doesn’t violate any of the items listed above
Red flag:
  • Not meeting any of the above criteria 100%
You see why I don’t even bother looking? 😉 I’m not willing to compromise anything about my current lifestyle. I’ve earned that right.

Jala
Indeed. As relationships and marriage are all about meeting each other halfway and learning new ways of doing things, you’re probably right not to bother looking. 🤷 In all honesty, it would probably take a man who hates himself to bother with some of the items on that list. But hey, enjoy your pig!

As for me (a guy):

Honest, gentle, affectionate, kind, generous to those in need, deeply Christian if not outright Catholic, laughs easily and often (big one, there), and can do a bit of cooking.

Judgmental, anti-Catholic, overly critical, stingy, no sense of humor.
 
Yes, you read that right. :cool:
I know that some character traits are simply a matter of personal preference, but the ones in red are just objectively bad qualities. Especially if/once you get married, I can’t envision myself saying to the children, “why can’t you try be more cowardly, ignorant, and easily taken advantage of… you know, like your mother!” :o
 
I know that some character traits are simply a matter of personal preference, but the ones in red are just objectively bad qualities. Especially if/once you get married, I can’t envision myself saying to the children, “why can’t you try be more cowardly, ignorant, and easily taken advantage of… you know, like your mother!” :o
Yeah, the one that kind of made me go :eek::eek::eek: was ‘obedient.’
 
I know that some character traits are simply a matter of personal preference, but the ones in red are just objectively bad qualities. Especially if/once you get married, I can’t envision myself saying to the children, “why can’t you try be more cowardly, ignorant, and easily taken advantage of… you know, like your mother!” :o
Ignorant and easily taken advantage of, well I’ll explain that later. Cowardly though? No, no, no you are confused there. Finding a cute girl that’s easily startled can be endearing but I can’t call that cowardly. Real cowards are simultaneously either villains or comic relief. They’re filled with so much fear that they’re paranoid. Mine is an ingenue. Fear levels in that archetype are in fact very much in the normal. 😛

Anyways, let’s not forge that there are flaws with going for the positive all the time. It goes to show that I’m not looking Ms. Perfect. And in any case, women who are vulnerable that way bring out the alpha in me. :cool:

And where did I say I want my kids to be like her? Again, it’s two different things. With a wife, I want someone to shelter, love, protect, and serve. I don’t want to marry someone who’ll just be another person lining up to criticize, contest, and compete with me. I get healthy doses of that from other people already. Naive qualities are what I see that distinguish the woman I want in my life from the other relationships of family, friends, and whatever future children I might have. (Heck, I’d actually find it interesting if I ended up having a son or daughter who’d give the whole, “You just wait Dad, I’ll show you!! DX” speech).
 
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Jala:
Green Flag
Code:
Compassionate
Great sense of humor
Feminist (yes, men too can believe in equality for women)
Non-smoker
Vegan
Understands that my children ALWAYS come first. FOREVER.
Sleeps in another room; my pet pig sleeps with me and that ain't gonna change
Devout in any faith, as long as it doesn't violate any of the items listed above
In all honesty, it would probably take a man who hates himself to bother with some of the items on that list. But hey, enjoy your pig!
One of the nice things about this thread is that it allows us to see the diversity of values and attitudes that we have; what we prize and what we reject

Jala’s list is not mine, but I was curious about which of those items (besides the pig thing) do you consider would describe a self-hating man?
 
One of the nice things about this thread is that it allows us to see the diversity of values and attitudes that we have; what we prize and what we reject

Jala’s list is not mine, but I was curious about which of those items (besides the pig thing) do you consider would describe a self-hating man?
I’d say that being ousted from the bed in favor of a pig is the big one. 🤷

A couple of the others, like the demanded focus on feminism, aren’t concretely that way, but seem to echo the sentiment. There’s nothing wrong with equality for women, but still: Feminism + giving up one’s space for an animal? What other conclusions does that lead one to primarily draw?
 
I’d say that being ousted from the bed in favor of a pig is the big one. 🤷
Yes, I admit that I am puzzled by that as well. Why not just get a bigger bed? Or, if a king-sized bed is too small, why not push two beds together?
 
I’ll start with what turns me off:
  • Noisy
  • Nagging
  • Strongheaded
  • Arrogant
  • Ill-tempered
  • High-maintenance
  • Chatty
  • Irreligious
  • Bossy
  • Self-righteous
  • … and anything that reminds of the Dumb Beverly Hills Blonde stereotype
As for what turns me on:
  • Quiet
  • Timid
  • Shy
  • Religious
  • Kind
  • Naive
  • Obedient
  • Soft-spoken
  • Gullible
  • Religious
  • Trusting
  • Faithful
  • …basically anything that has Ingenue written all over her.
Obedient? As in a domesticated house pet? A poodle perhaps? You can find a nice one at an animal rescue shelter near your home!

When you add “gullible” to your list, along with “timid” and “naive”, it starts to sound like a predator’s list for easy targets to groom. Ditch the those 4 and it sounds like a nice, quiet, young lady is what you’re hoping to find, instead of a victim.
 
My List:😃
Most what Crescentinus said and a few other extras:

Green flags:
  1. Catholic (devoutly and follows the Church teachings)
  2. Respects my interests
  3. Sane
  4. Loyal
  5. Open-minded
  6. Understanding
  7. Honest
  8. Caring
  9. Shorter than me (It would be awkward if otherwise.)
  10. Looks like a woman (But not obsessed with fashion trends.)
  11. Feminine
  12. Shares the same values as me
  13. Intelligent
  14. Has a sense of humor
  15. Creative
  16. Resourceful
  17. Financially responsible
  18. Fun to be around (Not to be confused with bar-hopping women!)
  19. Chaste
    My extra points!
  20. academic education like mathematics or medicine or similar
  21. bit crazy in a good way
  22. nordisch European looking and attractive (I cannot help but most women are not attractive for me :o)
  23. self-controlling
  24. likes me too
Red flags:
  1. Un-Catholic
  2. Disrespectful
  3. Crazy
  4. Perverted (Sexually and otherwise.)
  5. Liberal-progressive
  6. Shoves views down my throat
  7. An idiot (What can I say? Stupidity is hardly a beautiful trait!)
  8. Looks like a dude (Yes, there are women who look like dudes!)
  9. Not a heterosexual
  10. Radical feminist (as opposed to other forms)
  11. Self-centered
  12. Controlling
  13. Homosexualist
  14. Unfaithful
    My extra points!
  15. Uneducated, like I just want to be a mother kind of person
  16. Studied a language as mainsubject or worst German philology
  17. had some boyfriends
  18. not a virgin
 
Obedient? As in a domesticated house pet? A poodle perhaps? You can find a nice one at an animal rescue shelter near your home!

When you add “gullible” to your list, along with “timid” and “naive”, it starts to sound like a predator’s list for easy targets to groom. Ditch the those 4 and it sounds like a nice, quiet, young lady is what you’re hoping to find, instead of a victim.
This response is so typical, I’m surprised it took my post this long to snag one. :rolleyes: Yeah, just cuz I want woman I won’t have to raise some kind of guard around automatically makes me Edward Cullen. :rolleyes:

Thanks for re-enacting the kind of character interaction my author avatars get and what I set out to deconstruct. 👍

P.S.

And for the record? I know one or two female saints who have qualified for my list. The Bible also speaks very highly of obedient wives.

The best part is I’m not even on the same end as those extreme enough to impose such standards on other women.

I’m just your closet alpha wondering why he can’t even find just a single ingenue these days. 🤷 I wish the alpha female movement could’ve left at least one or two in my local population.
 
In all honesty, it would probably take a man who hates himself to bother with some of the items on that list. But hey, enjoy your pig!
OK, you’ve piqued my curiosity–why would a man have to hate himself to be a non-smoking vegan who believes in “family first?”

Note–and I should have made this clear in my original post, and I apologize for not doing so–I would also expect him to put HIS children before me.

And I do enjoy my pig very much. He’s a non-smoking vegan too. 😉

Jala
 
I’d say that being ousted from the bed in favor of a pig is the big one. 🤷

A couple of the others, like the demanded focus on feminism, aren’t concretely that way, but seem to echo the sentiment. There’s nothing wrong with equality for women, but still: Feminism + giving up one’s space for an animal? What other conclusions does that lead one to primarily draw?
Do you have something against celibate marriages, or non-celibate partners sleeping in separate beds? Or is sex the only thing you value in a partner?

Jala
 
This response is so typical, I’m surprised it took my post this long to snag one. :rolleyes: Yeah, just cuz I want woman I won’t have to raise some kind of guard around automatically makes me Edward Cullen. :rolleyes:

Thanks for re-enacting the kind of character interaction my author avatars get and what I set out to deconstruct. 👍

P.S.

And for the record? I know one or two female saints who have qualified for my list. The Bible also speaks very highly of obedient wives.

The best part is I’m not even on the same end as those extreme enough to impose such standards on other women.

I’m just your closet alpha wondering why he can’t even find just a single ingenue these days. 🤷 I wish the alpha female movement could’ve left at least one or two in my local population.
:rolleyes: I’m sure you’ll find some girl out there that would be more than happy to be your domesticated pretty pet instead of your marriage partner :rolleyes:
 
I saw this question on CM back when I tried online dating…and I thought it would be interesting to post it here too. So…

1- What turns you on in your quest of Mr or Mrs Right?
2- What turns you off?

It’s time to be honest y’all. 🙂
It’s difficult to arrange a proper “list” (being a believer in compromise and flexibility) but like everyone else I look for certain qualities in a potential Mrs. Right.

I fancy a woman who:
  • Is intelligent: must be motivated towards self-education, even after attaining a university degree (one never finishes learning new things, after all). Of course common sense is a must.
  • Is at least decently attractive: I tend to prefer Kim Kardashian or Beyonce body types (narrow waist, curvy hips) but aside from that I don’t care about her race/eye colour/hair colour. Looking presentable and feminine is a must.
  • Is humorous: As a practical joker, the potential Mrs. must be a willing partner-in-crime/victim.
  • Can give honest and tactful advice: Not the easiest skill to master.
  • Is loyal
  • Is open-minded and respectful of different cultures and ideas: I’m from a multicultural family, so this trait is very important in a woman.
  • Is at least willing to dance
  • Demonstrates a love and fear of God (especially when no one else is watching)
  • Is confident enough to not give a damn about what other people think: Always a nice trait.
Definite turn offs in a woman who:
  • Is a professed believer, but not a doer: Goodbye.
  • Lets herself go and makes no effort to spruce up: Everyone has one of those days…I understand that. But a situation like that shouldn’t continue indefinitely.
  • Sticks her nose in drama: The way I see it, if you’re so bothered about other people’s problems, you should get a move on and fix them.
  • Lacks tact: I will not bring an offensive women around my family or friends.
  • Speaks badly about her family: I briefly dated a lady who complained that her sister was a b#^&, her brother was a b@-%@&* and she hated all of her extended relatives. I asked her why she would tell me that. Yes, some people are related to complete low-lives. Still, there’s an adult way to explain the situation. When women talk badly about their kin, it’s usually symptomatic of other problems that will arise in a relationship.
  • Appears disproportionate: For example, a woman who’s taller than I, excessively thin or obese, etc.
  • Likes to emasculate men
  • Becomes bizarrely jealous or overemotional: Since I usually mean and do what I say, I won’t go to absurd lengths to prove my loyalty.
 
:rolleyes: I’m sure you’ll find some girl out there that would be more than happy to be your domesticated pretty pet instead of your marriage partner :rolleyes:
That’s quite typical too. Keep 'em coming. You’re making an excellent case of fiction having equally bizarre basis in reality. 👍 (Oh and giving me material for my Snarky Feminist lines on the side.)

Oh and for the record, I like seeing how your logic classifies our Virgin Mary as a domesticated pet too. 👍
 
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