Lets cut the poop, they come here for one thing: $
When work dries up due to a poor economy here alot of them went home. Imagine that. So much for toughing it out. My ancestors came and stood during the height of Great Depression (1933) because they really wanted to be here and made it work.
The fact they could stay in their own country (which alas does have food, water, shelter, and clothing) and improve it themselves is apparently not important to the open border advocates.
Its not a strawman; you and ProdigalSon are advocating criminals be rendered immune from their actions and we as a society provide them with everything they already had where they came from out of our pockets.
Of course neither you nor he would or have “sheltered” anyone, you’d bear the burden of the expense. Far easier to force (via government) others to spend their money (the crux of liberal economic theory).
Our country has dire domestic needs we are not even close to meeting, our own backyard is choked with weeds and must be tended to first.
I have weighed in on this issue as I have a family that is totally divided on it. My brother agrees with you…out, now. My mother on the other hand believes they are here let’s show them a path to citizenship.
There is truth in the premise that illegals will do the work Americans won’t. And it’s not just in the agricultural, construction and service industry. It is also in the high levels of the white collar world. There are visas for folks to come here from other countries either to go the university here or come here with a college degree.
Charlotte is one of the booming places for engineering, science and mathematics. I am sure there are other metro areas on the same level.
My son has a two degrees in the engineering field, is HFA, graduated 2 yrs ago and cannot find a job. Granted the HFA makes it more difficult. I had the opportunity to speak to some of his room mates and classmates while he was attending university. They all were looking forward to graduation and stated they would jump right into the workforce by taking '“no less” than a 50K a year with full benefits.
I was floored. Are you kidding me, you’re not going to get that kind of money right off the bat, you have to work your way up. Nope, they were adamant, 50K or nothing. Now, for example, you have a young 20 something yr old female/male from let’s say India, who came here on a visa. These folks walk into an interview to discuss salary. The company offers them 30K, limited benefits until you become seasoned. They take the job. The American 20 something walks in with his high horse and says 50K or nothing. Of course, management, being what it is, (profit centered), says, uh, no thanks. And pride goeth before the fall. There are some who overstay their visa’s, yes, but there are others who are ready to raise their right hand and become citizens. Within 5 yrs, that employee is making 50K, and the American is making $13.00 an hour in Podunck USA and whining, what went wrong.
I think our millenial generation as become a bit self important. The people I see in the grocery store from Latin America, Cambodia, et al. are hard working people. You will always have the hard core criminal element in the population. I cannot tell you how many of these folks have been robbed of there money (every Friday) from theives and thugs who do a home invasion and steal what little bit they have, “knowing” full well these folks will not contact the police for fear of deportation. Yet not one of the slugs that robbed them would know a day’s work if walked up and shook their hand and have reap the benefits of their family’s over dependence on the government system. You think illegals are killing our emergency room and medical services in this country because they are indigent, do you really think there are no Americans, who have government subsidy are paying their bills after they shoot each other up in the street?
As long as corporations will hire illegal folks, up or down the food chain, this will also continue.
A construction guy pulls up to a Home Depot and loads 5 or 6 folks into his truck, and off they go to fix your roof. He pays them little to nothing. Do you think an American citizen, young strapping males would do this? Not on your life.
It works both ways.
