An Atheist ex-witch serving you the Eucharist.

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rpp said:
This is off topic. I think it is also a record for one person to make one post and within 20 minutes his account is under review.
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He probably made other posts which have been deleted by the mods. I do think 20 minutes just might be some sort of record though.
 
I was just curious as to the whole magic vs. magic concept. No one really sames to take other sorts of magic seriously, only their own. I guess it applies here to.

Perhaps I should have organized this less personally and more in the sense of the question I was seeking…
 
Abbadon said:
I was just curious as to the whole magic vs. magic concept. No one really sames to take other sorts of magic seriously, only their own. I guess it applies here to.

Perhaps I should have organized this less personally and more in the sense of the question I was seeking…
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There is no “magic” involved in the mass. The host doesn’t “magically” become Jesus.

And I also question whether you are a truthful person. Maybe you aren’t really an EMHC and you’re just yanking our chain on this forum by saying such outlanding things… or maybe you are actually an EMHC but in doing so, you basically have to lie to the Priest by saying “Amen” when he says Body of Christ… and you’re lying to everyone as you hand it out when you say, “Body of Christ” since you don’t actually believe that. So either way, you aren’t being truthful and that’s really a shame. You should be a person of integrity whether you believe in God or not. Anything less is sort of pitiful actually. Why not be who you are?
 
Abbadon said:
And I tell my little sister that fairies, Santa and unicorns are real to… Your point?
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I think the point is whether you are a person of any integrity, regardless of your beliefs. It seems the answer to that would be “no”.

In response to the poster who wondered why you are bothering to ask our opinion, I suspect it is because you are being subtly hostile and hoping to rub our noses in it a bit. What fun is it to flip off the Catholics if nobody knows they’re being flipped off? You had to tell somebody, but don’t have the guts to tell the people who actually know you.
 
Any person who does this should stop immediately.

A person doing this should speak to the priest about it.

Regardless of belief the person doing this is harming his soul and others through sacrilege, and will have an immeasurable price to pay in the afterlife.
 
LilyM said:
If you can see fit to call the Body of Christ a ‘wafer’ instead of what we believe it is, which is His body and not bread, then you have no business going anywhere near it - not to receive (since you are not in the communion of belief with the Church which is expressed by the reception of the sacrament) nor distribute it.
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My feelings exactly LilyM.:tsktsk:
Pray for her she’s going to need it!
 
Abbadon said:
I’m an athiest who used to be a witch/ pagan, I practice with friends still but out of tradition rather than belief. But

Not really… Couldn’t care less. And my family knows my official position on religion, i voice it very loudly. We argued often in the past. But now that I’m no longer a teenager I just king of let it go and I go to church and we just don’t talk about it. I mean sure we still on occasion argue hard, I try my best not to bring it up and leave it a non-issue…

I guess she is hoping that if I do the christian thing and am a good person even if I don’t believe, that her loving god won’t send the child she loves so much to hell to be tortured forever… Whatever helps her sleep at night… And I do it as a diplomatic conflict resolution…
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This thread shows why eucharistic ministers are, in practicality, a really bad idea. In the vast majority of parishes, they serve no useful function, drastically increase the chance of abuse, and denigrate the Eucharist. For example, compare this “eucharistic minister,” to the pictures of Padre Pio’s stigmata bleeding during communion…the Body of Christ has got to be handled with the utmost of respect, in all circumstances, no exceptions.
 
OurFather who art in Heaven,
hallowed be Thy name,
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done,
on earth asit is in Heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil
Amen

For Thine is the kingdom, and the power and the glory, forever,
Amen

Glory be to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be world without end.

Hail Mary full of grace,
the Lord is with thee,
blessed art thou among women
and blessed isthe fruit of your womb Jesus
Holy Mary mother of God pray for us sinners,
now and at the time ofour death
Amen
 
Personally speaking, I don’t like the thought of a eucharistic minister. The administering of communion should soley belong to a priest, deacon or nun. IMHO, the layity has no authority to place the body and/or blood of Christ in my body other than those I spoke of. Eucharistic ministers are to be used ONLY when a priest/deacon have a congregation that is just too large to handle by themselves. They are used at almost every mass in most churches today, regardless of the size of the gathering. Thank God my church does not use Eucharistic ministers!
 
It doesn’t bother me since I know the people giving me communion and they aren’t atheists.

I have a feeling you are not a happy person. In your post you sound kind of dejected and lost. You come to a Catholic forum and ask serious Catholics whether they would be offended- of course you already know the answer. You are just seeking some attention. How sad that you have to do things like this to fill a need for attention.

The Holy Spirit calls those he wants to serve as Eucharistic Ministers. He is touching your life everytime you touch him. If you have been given this opportunity it’s because the Holy Spirit is calling you in some way. My guess is that in the future, whether in this life or at the end of this one, you will turn back to God.

You poor sad person. I’ll say prayers for you. And your mother.
 
ridiculeddisply said:
Abbadon, your posts smack of insincerity, to say the least.

To answer your hypothetical demon communion situation, that’s just absurd. It would be sheer paranoia for every parishoner to worry, at every Mass they attend, that Satanist/Hexed hosts are being given to them. Given that you have only “heard” of this happening, it seems unlikely that it is at all, in any significant sense. People often are swayed by stories of Satanism, and it can cause hysteria, such as when there were a wave of sexual molestation arrests in 70’s because children were supposedly being molested or sacrificed during Satantic ritual. Those periods of time, however, have also provided fairly strong evidence, once they were disproven, that fear of Satanists or Satanism is largely unfounded.

Given that you also have experience with Wiccanism/Witchcraft/etc., I also have to assume that you also know, however, that Satanism is not a very significant or populated movement. Which leads me to why I believe your posts are insincere, since it would be easy to prey upon the fears of good Catholics/Christians living in fear of a largely impotent “Satanist” movement. To make a post saying you’ve “heard” that Satanists are providing hexed hosts to parishoners seems like intentional provocation.
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I have to concur with this sentiment and assessment. While I have no ability to prove or disprove the outrageous claims of the poster, what does appear intentional is, exactly as you write, causing us to question if Hosts we receive are somehow cursed.

To the thread opener, whether your story is true or not, you should take a look back on what you have written and reflect on it. Think about what you are really saying. And then hopefully, you will be genuinely sorry and seek forgiveness, which is waiting for you.
 
I honestly have never thought I would hear someone professing to be an atheist and a witch.

Have you considered a third religion? Buddism may be complementary to witchcraft and help calm down the anxiety of being completely dependent on every moment of existance.

Please tell me you live in Texas. I would love to have a cup of tea and interview you.
 
I think/hope you must be writing this as some kind of hoax, or ‘wind up’. If what you say is true, then you are surely a rather strange individual? I don’t believe in any form of occultism, and I can’t imagine going along and taking part in some bizarre pretence that I do so believe.

Since you clearly have an awareness of spiritual issues, the implication is that you are fully aware of what you are doing, and are deliberately insulting Our Lord, the Church, and the congregation. However, I agree with other correspondents that the only person actually harmed by such perverse and malicious behaviour is yourself.

Don’t settle for cheap and shoddy; find your own way, and be true to yourself. I pray you will come to know and love the Lord, but even if you don’t, at least be truthful and honest with yourself, your Mum, and other people.

God bless you.

SB
 
jazzbass981 said:
Personally speaking, I don’t like the thought of a eucharistic minister. The administering of communion should soley belong to a priest, deacon or nun. IMHO, the layity has no authority to place the body and/or blood of Christ in my body other than those I spoke of. Eucharistic ministers are to be used ONLY when a priest/deacon have a congregation that is just too large to handle by themselves. They are used at almost every mass in most churches today, regardless of the size of the gathering. Thank God my church does not use Eucharistic ministers!
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That wouldn’t solve the problem. There are professional ministers who have come out as atheists long after they have given up on their beliefs, and other currently practicing ministers who have confided in others that they no longer believe, but their ministry is their livelihood, so they don’t know what else to do but keep on preaching.
 
As a teen I made up all sorts of wild stories for attention. I burned a lot of bridges, people stopped trusting me and wouldn’t help me even when I desperately needed it. Lying became easier than telling the truth, and after a time I could no longer distinguish between what was true and what wasn’t. It was a very miserable existence, and a difficult habit to break. I consider myself fortunate to be rid of that habit now.

It doesn’t matter if what part of this, if any, is true. Any way you look at it, you are being dishonest. In my opinion, in order to be happy in life, one must be truthful. “To thine own self be true” is what I live by. Are you happy? I think not, and if you claim you are, you’re lying again… to yourself. I sincerely hope you stop this, not for the sake of anyone here or in your parish, but for yourself and your own peace and happiness in life.
 
I mostly read things on this forum and rarely do I post. This discussion moved me to offer my thoughts.

First, thank you for honoring your mother. I believe that you will receive blessings from this devotion. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are doing this out of deep love and respect for your mother. If you are doing it just to keep her quiet, that is NOT honoring your mother.

Second, this is wrong and you in your heart know it is wrong. Please have a talk with your mother and tell her that out of deep respect (not belief, but respect) for her faith you don’t wish to dishonor the sacrament by lying to the priest and the members of the parish. Because the host is consecrated by a priest, you are not damaging anyone but yourself. The lie is hurting you. Of course the people receiving eucharist from you would be shocked, but it is not their soul that is in jeopardy.

Third, please continue to attend the mass with your mother. She is showing you deep love and concern by asking you to participate. Do so as fully as possible without blaspheming the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ.

Fourth, thank your mother for her constant love that she embraces you in spite of the fact that you have strayed from the flock. She is always trying to bring you back and sometimes just by going through the motions, you will be touched by the hand of God.

I will pray for your immortal soul.
 
larsenl1 said:
I mostly read things on this forum and rarely do I post. This discussion moved me to offer my thoughts.

First, thank you for honoring your mother. I believe that you will receive blessings from this devotion. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are doing this out of deep love and respect for your mother. If you are doing it just to keep her quiet, that is NOT honoring your mother.

Second, this is wrong and you in your heart know it is wrong. Please have a talk with your mother and tell her that out of deep respect (not belief, but respect) for her faith you don’t wish to dishonor the sacrament by lying to the priest and the members of the parish. Because the host is consecrated by a priest, you are not damaging anyone but yourself. The lie is hurting you. Of course the people receiving eucharist from you would be shocked, but it is not their soul that is in jeopardy.

Third, please continue to attend the mass with your mother. She is showing you deep love and concern by asking you to participate. Do so as fully as possible without blaspheming the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ.

Fourth, thank your mother for her constant love that she embraces you in spite of the fact that you have strayed from the flock. She is always trying to bring you back and sometimes just by going through the motions, you will be touched by the hand of God.

I will pray for your immortal soul.
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👍 :clapping: :sad_yes: :tiphat: :gopray2: :signofcross: :flowers:

Very well said!
 
Mary_Gail_36 said:
I think somone is telling a tall tale. But that’s just me.
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Let us suppose that the OP is doing this for attention and/or “fun”.

The OP is a very sick person to even conceive of such an idea!

:bigyikes::bigyikes::bigyikes::bigyikes::bigyikes:

No good and beautiful person can conceive of such ugliness - only a distorted and ugly mind:eek:
 
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