“Let us make man in OUR IMAGE”I thought that was your understanding of it. Don’t you teach that the Trinity is “three persons in one God”? Don’t you teach that they are “coequal”? Don’t you teach that they are of “one substance”? Where is any of that found in the Bible? And how does it make any sense?
Let’s review your post:I thought that was your understanding of it. Don’t you teach that the Trinity is “three persons in one God”? Don’t you teach that they are “coequal”? Don’t you teach that they are of “one substance”? Where is any of that found in the Bible? And how does it make any sense?
Again, no Trinitarian would find this to be an accurate analogy or portrayal of what Trinitarian theology teaches. Saying that it is a “three headed monster with one body”, as if the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are attached to each other (“substance” is not referring to a physical oneness, which you would know if you’ve actually read about what the word translated as “substance” refers to), is obviously a false, heretical idea that Trinitarians do not embrace.
That does not answer my post at all.
Your previous response to my post didn’t answer my post(since you did not address the issue of “spirit chimera” to which I was responding to).
Answer already given in post #80.
Answer already given in post #82.
No, that was no answer to post # 80.
there is no Biblical support that God had a daddy and was once sinful, but y’all teach it anyway
Sorry, your response was no response to post #79 about “spirit chimera”.
If you want it in “black and white”, then the answer is NO. You will not find any direct reference to the Trinity. The same holds true for the word Trinity. Direct reference is not required, or needed, since, as I have mentioned before, the OT and NT abounds with the revelation of, and reference to, the Holy Trinity. Anyone who uses proper exegesis will see and understand this. And, also, the scriptures will also show that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
Wrong! Direct reference to the Trinity does exist in the Bible aplenty. What doesn’t exist in the Bible is any reference to the absurd Trinitarian theology of the post Apostate Christendom.
Sorry, already addressed. What is “absurd” is your understanding of Trinitarian theology, including your understanding of words like “substance”. Saying that the chimera is a good analogy tells us all we need to know about your [lack of] understanding of our beliefs.
Now that’s a bit harsh, I assume their Trinitarian theology flows from whatever revelation supported the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD
Agreed. The Bible is clear on the Trinity, and it is consistent with our views on God. There are three distinct Persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, that are one God. There is nothing in our Trinitarian beliefs that posit a “spirit chimera” or any other absurd notion held by Zerinus and Todd. We don’t believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are attached to each other, or that they share a body. Saying that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are “of one substance” is not referring to a physical substance or physical oneness (as Zerinus and Todd would have us believe in their absurd understanding of the Trinity), but is referring to the one “nature” that they are all of, as you have already stated. This “spirit chimera” nonsense is even more false when we realize that Trinitarians believe that only God the Son incarnated on this earth, and not the Father or the Holy Spirit (likewise, the Son prayed to the Father, not to Himself).If you want it in “black and white”, then the answer is NO. You will not find any direct reference to the Trinity. The same holds true for the word Trinity. Direct reference is not required, or needed, since, as I have mentioned before, the OT and NT abounds with the revelation of, and reference to, the Holy Trinity. Anyone who uses proper exegesis will see and understand this. And, also, the scriptures will also show that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
There are not three Gods, but one. Three separate persons and each person is of the Divine Nature and is, as we humans are of a Human nature. This is a difficult concept for many to realize and understand, but we accept and believe what has been revealed to us in the Bible since itis the Word of God.
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The Council of Nicaea and the Nicene Creed do not support, or teach, Trinitarianism, or the Trinitarian theology of present day Christendom. That came later in the history of the development of Christian theology.
No, the LDS do not use the term Trinity as defined by Catholics. The LDS belief is a Godhead comprised of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
The LDS Godhead is comprised of three separate divine beings who are completely united in purpose.
LDS believe that the members of the Godhead are one in the sense that they function together as a single, perfect unit - not that they are literally the same being.
It works fine for the LDS definition of having a perfect unity of purpose. Just like a good husband and wife team are as one. (weak but best example I could think of quickly)
Trinity is not a Catholic term. Trinity is a word in the vocabulary used to refer to the triune deities of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost mentioned in the New Testament. The word Trinity in its original etymology simply means “three” or “the three”.
Yes.
They are three separate Deities with the Son and Holy Spirit being subordinate to the Father. That means that the Father is the supreme Deity of the universe.
The three Deities are separate from each other. See above.
See above.
The above is self-explanatory.
No. In that prayer Jesus also prays that all the disciples may be made one with Him as He is one with the Father.
The LDS doctrine of the Trinity believes in three separate Deities two of Whom are subordinate to the third, the Father, making the Father the supreme Deity of heaven, and the ultimate One God of the Bible (see Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2; 28; John 14:28; John 20:17).
If you believe the bible, that there is no God other than the One True God, then the references to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit MUST refer to the one God in three persons. If you don’t believe in the Trinity, then you don’t believe the bible.