I’ve seen something similar happen, and you’re right, we can’t ignore the impact media has on us. At the same time, I guess my approach has always been to understand that I can laugh at something without agreeing with it.
Yeah, I get that. I mean, I’m not even opposed to watching/reading stories with central, practicing gay characters. I think that we can read and enjoy something without agreeing with it, but we need to acknowledge that what the characters are doing is wrong. We can’t “turn our brains off” and ignore their sins, but I do think we can see them as flawed characters that we can try to understand. In some cases, the characters in question are even admirable for other reasons.
Yes, I’ve seen people like that. After some time, they end supporting the real thing.
Is easy to normalize behaviors and promote ideas slowly to people through series. yes, Kamaduck, I agree with you, the idea that morality and fiction are separate is dangerous and terrible.
Whoops, that half-off yearly subscription won’t actually start till 9 AM CST on Cyber Monday (December 2). It also seems that they will be increasing their normal 2 week trial to 30 days for the month of December.
I can certainly agree with not supporting anything in fantasy that we wouldn’t support in real life. As for “enjoy”, it depends what you mean. I find a good deal of things I’d never do or advise someone to do amusing. You might as well not read mythology or a sizable portion of ancient literature or other writing if you can’t tolerate immoral jokes (try the Satyricon or Pompeiian graffiti). And then there’s medieval marginalia, which were drawn by monks–and the scenes played some sort of role in the manuscript they accompanied.I like these kinds of discussions that crop up here every once in a while, lol. But w/out getting too deep in this, I’ll just say that, generally, if there’s something/an idea we definitely shouldn’t support or enjoy in real life (as a faithful Christian), then I think we shouldn’t try to enjoy it or support it (like shipping Yuri characters for example) even in the fantasy world. Period. To be blunt, I think it can be sinful and/or very spiritually harmful as well. So I pretty much agree with what I think has basically been said already.
Yes, finding blatantly immoral things amusing/humorous when u encounter them, at least to me, is different from making the “active effort” to enjoy them for the sheer pleasure of it. The pics in the links that u provided are some good examples of this! I’m not sure what some of those monks/scribes were thinking, but I think most of those, while some of them being kinda amusing, were quite inappropriate to the extent that I feel it could cause spiritual harm to persons that start to spend time either actively seeking more of these kinds of things for the enjoyment of it, or entertaining the idea of some of these things in their mind for the pleasure of it, like say that 3rd pic in the 1st link with that demon/creature-thing shooting that guy in the rear end! Perhaps it’s just me, but I don’t think it’s spiritually healthy to start spending time enjoying or entertaining in your mind the thought of this actually happening, lol. Though, I can understand someone finding it kinda amusing or funny when they first encounter the pic.
Well, when Railgun shows Kuroko trying to sneak up on Mikoto, or when a movie makes a joke about a one night stand, or anything else similar, I don’t feel guilty necessarily for finding it funny, but at the same time, I know I’d never support immoral sex, homo or hetero. As far as gay/lesbian pairings go, even setting morality aside, I’ve never been interested in “shipping” them because I’m a straight guy. I’m interested in straight pairings.
Straight people ship gay pairings all the time, sometimes even when they don’t personally find the characters attractive.
Yep, in the past, I actually used to ship female pairings. O.O;Straight people ship gay pairings all the time, sometimes even when they don’t personally find the characters attractive.
So if someone HAD to ship this particular character that was born a male, but was now a female (since he now has all the parts of a female…), would there even be a safe ship in this one? Lol. Both are dead ends the way I see it, lol. In any case, I didn’t like the ending to this anime. ^^;I’m thinking support is basically embracing something with your heart (whether one realizes it or not). And “shipping” same-sex couples would be an example of just 1 of many possible manifestations of this embracing.
Lol. It’s downfall, imo, was the ending! I honestly have mixed emotions about the ending, but unfortunately, it’s mostly negative. Kinda wish I hadn’t seen it, since I feel like the series is ruined now… and they REALLY REALLY need to make another sequel movie or another season to fix the mess of what happened at the end here. 
Unfortunately, though, Iwakami, the producer of the movie has already said that * “No, we don’t have any plans. The world of Madoka is great, and I love all the characters, so personally, if we have a great plot scenario, I personally would love to make something else Madoka. But at this point, as of right now, we don’t have any official plans.”*
[/SIGN]If I didn’t see anything wrong with homosexuality or romantic relationships that don’t end in marriage, I’d probably just ship any combination. I’m not sure I’m really attracted to most of the characters I ship… Mostly I just want them to be happy and do cute things.
If the character was fine being a girl, I’d consider her a girl who was able to marry a guy. If he wanted to be a guy again, I’d consider him a guy who would have to remain celibate (unless he managed to fix his problem). The church hasn’t spoken on intersex people, so the rule is pretty much “follow your conscience and the other rules”. There aren’t really any clear-cut rules for trans people, either, but in this case there was no intentional mutilation and all of the character’s organs (presumably) work. So… Honestly, I’d give them the benefit of the doubt the same as I would an intersex person. I wouldn’t ship her at all unless she felt that being a girl was actually right for her, and she wanted to date guys. In any other scenario, I would just let her or him be. Not everybody needs to get married, and I would try to respect the character’s wishes.I think the one that I wanted the most was the 2 main female leads in Tenshi na Konamaiki (Cheeky Angel), but mainly because I couldn’t stand the male lead, lol, and because I kinda felt the main female lead was still a guy… Considering, she actually was born a guy! But when she was 9 years old, some kind of backwards genie turned her wish of being a man in a man’s body, to a man in a woman’s body!!! O_O! So it’s like…
I was kind of wondering about laughing at things, I guess. It’s not full-on support, but I don’t think it’s something Jesus would do. But since we’re talking fiction, I’m not even sure what the appropriate reaction would be sometimes, so it’s not my place to criticize anybody.
I would never support or enjoy such pairings, but I, personally, am able laugh at the jokes if they are funny. I’d prefer they not be there, but I still laugh at it.
I just found out that CR just picked up…
I noticed u “quoted” one of my posts that had a spoiler in it. It had me thinking that u may have accidentally read something u probably didn’t want to read, since if u did hit the “quote” button on my post, the spoiler text would unfortunately be made visible to u, and it could be a little difficult to delete without reading something that you’d rather not. So sorry about that, if u did!
I think I may just put those spoiler signs in separate posts or something, out of charity for those that may want to hit the “quote” button on my post to respond to other things that I may have said.As far as immoderate laughter is concerned, I believe that refers to laughing unrestrainedly or ostentatiously, or when it would not be appropriate, such as during the middle or a funeral, prayer, homily, etc. St. John Chrysostom’s Homily 15 might help illuminate:Wow… and uhh… wow.
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RUROUNI KENSHIN!!! (dubbed and subbed versions, too!!)
If u haven’t watched this classic yet, then:
Unfortunately, though, according to the CR announcement on this, free users will have to wait till Jan. 1 (of next year) for the 1st 27 eps, and then later dates for the rest.
- What’s wrong with u?!?
- Put it on your “to watch” list! XD ~ at least give a few to several eps a shot!
Anyway, why are u still reading this post! Go… watch… enjoy!
I noticed u “quoted” one of my posts that had a spoiler in it. It had me thinking that u may have accidentally read something u probably didn’t want to read, since if u did hit the “quote” button on my post, the spoiler text would unfortunately be made visible to u, and it could be a little difficult to delete without reading something that you’d rather not. So sorry about that, if u did!
Anyway, back to what u said about “laughing at things”… there is something in the Catechism in paragraph 1856 that talks about “immoderate laughter” as being sinful. Here’s a small snippet from it: " But when the sinner’s will is set upon something that of its nature involves a disorder, but is not opposed to the love of God and neighbor, such as thoughtless chatter or immoderate laughter and the like, such sins are venial." ~ but what defines “immoderate” is the question.
Right now, I’m kinda thinking that I wouldn’t want to label every single blatantly inappropriate joke/situation as something sinful if we laughed at it. I think it would vary from joke to joke. I kinda want to say, too, that people are in different spiritual levels/awareness that perhaps what may be sinful for one person, may not be sinful to another; So I think there are some factors that need to be taken into account (and some others that I won’t get into since this post is getting too long, lol), and isn’t as black and white as we may hope or wish it to be. In the end, when it comes to this issue, I kinda think only God can be the final judge on whether something is sinful for a person. I don’t think there’s anything objective that we can come up with which would make it for 100% certain, sinful for a particular person to laugh at.
I do wonder, though, but do u guys think that if we weren’t suffering from the effects of original sin, that we wouldn’t find anything even remotely inappropriate, as being funny?
I’ve been reading a lot of what people were saying about the new Madoka Magica movie 3, and I feel even more disgusted than before, since it appears my worst fears that I wasn’t quite sure of at first, seems to have been made clear. I think I said it earlier, but yeah, this series is kinda ruined for me… it also appears that the ending was purposely changed to the questionable one that it currently has… for the purpose of extending the series and to “mess with us” (from what I read ~ I think it was in an interview with some of the people that worked on the movie)… even though, at first, it was originally supposed to end a certain way, which I would’ve been very, VERY happy with. TT__TT
Kodansha also has released a new service called MangaBox where u can read many of their newly released mangas on an iPhone or Android. I believe these are new series that u won’t find legally translated anywhere else, at least I don’t think so. Currently, I think u can only read the 1st issue and last issue if try to read them from a PC or laptop. Most of the series have only released 2 issues so far, and most of them seem to be releasing a new issue every week. The ones I’ve read so far (at least the 1st issue anyway) are Spoof on Titan (yep, it’s related to AoT), Knight in the Area, and First Love Suicide Pact.
I think, sometimes, it is good to look deeper into things, so long as our goal is to get a better understanding of things.
As with Madoka I just think the producers are trivializing something incredibly evil. I mean the murder of 20,000 little girls? The bad guy gets punched out at the end… come on. What happens to the people who ordered this thing and ran it? Are there arrests? And Biribiri goes on more or less as though nothing has happened, as does Touma. I 'd be freaked out for sure, if I witnessed and dealt with a psychotic who murdered thousands of children in some contrived experiment. I think some Japanese anime/manga writers really are sado-masochists. They could have had one sister being murdered, and even that is so over the top for a series like this.
Well Kuroko is Kuroko. She is endearing. All 4 of the main girls are. It’s pretty easy in anime. They have big eyes. They are very diminutive. They are very young. Who doesn’t want to protect them? I do.
Many shoujo anime/manga have BL. Gay couples among men are a big thing in Japan, for female audiences. Anime aimed at guys are usually without it though. Yuri stuff is also not so mainstream. Most anime targeted at males involve heterosexual interactions.
SAO was OK but I dislike anime where they kill off cute girl characters.
Most anime will have fanservice. Most TV has fanservice. It depends on the eye of the beholder. If the beholder watches anime as an alternative to pornography, well that’s obviously bad. Unlike pornography however, most anime, has rich storylines and it is the fanservice which is an extra unnecessary element, which almost always takes up less than 1% of the total screen time, while most porn has superficial storylines and it is the fanservice which is richly developed. And let’s also face it, despite the fanservice, in most (in the vast majority of) anime, the characters do not go on to touch each other, or have sex with each other. Sex and similar, are very very rare in anime. The usual response to fanservice is usually a slap across the face and accusation of the male protagonist being a pervert. The protagonist usually does not look for the service himself, and usually he acts in a modest way. Often he’ll blush and turn away. Most anime characters behave very well. Fanservice is unavoidable, and if you’re not getting excited over it, it’s not a problem in itself.