Anime Thread #3: You Can (Not) Repost

[CesarAugustus]

Sure.

I think we may be projecting Western sociology here into Japan.

There are lgbt supporters among manga writers.

I mentioned the other posibilities too, like fetishistic and commercial motives, and author appeal.

And ignored completely by the liberals in the West.

Yes, but why?

Ah, I care not for these. My interest are Japanese and not whatever Westerners come up with .

These are important too, from an author viewpoint, when having discussions, and something to conseider when recomending or promoting a series.

 

[Kamaduck]

I think there could be more reasons, like emotional involvement at various levels. Some people invest way too much time on shipping, be it writing fanfics, drawing fanart, collecting and sharing pictures, interacting with other fans, etc.

Haha, yes. I know for me, I just care about character interaction a lot in general, so I “ship” platonic friendships in much the same way that I “ship” romantic pairings. It’s like, sometimes I love part of what a show gave me, but I either wish that there was more of it or don’t like certain aspects, so I like expanding on the good parts by reading (and now writing, because apparently I’m at that point) fanfic about them.

I’ve reached the “collecting fanart” stage several times before. I guess I just like having cute stuff on hand.

That view is appealing, that is, changing the bad elements of a work. But I think that with certain productions (morally questionable ones, etc), making derivative works would be a direct publicity, thus engaging more people in the consumption of a bad series.

Is more better when the original work isn’t morally reprehensible, that way, there wouldn’t be promotion of a bad production.

That’s definitely an issue. I don’t think people become attached enough to write fanfics unless there’s quite a lot that they like about the work, so generally they’re only going to devote that sort of time to works do have various good things going for them.

Sometimes it’s not so much that the original work is clearly morally wrong, just that the presentation was unfortunate, could be interpreted as backing a bad message, or was a bad move in terms of storytelling. The series isn’t necessarily in the wrong, but it could be better, you know?

Of course, often the fans’ idea of “better” is much worse than canon, but sometimes it’s worth wading through for the few times they come up with something really great.

Various problems appear where an inordinate attachment to these things is present.

Have you noticed that religious respect some fans have towards series, the fandom, etc?

Yeah, I think you’re right about that. Fandoms definitely do have some striking resemblances to religion. But it’s not so much like Catholicism or Islam, you know? More like Protestant Christianity, where standard practice is to take the Bible (canon) and interpret it for yourself, then find a church (sub-set of fans) that agrees with you, rather than listening to the creator or any sort of authority on how to interpret the work.

(Wow, I feel like that was a really pretentious analogy. It kind of fits, though.)

Thanks for the information about that series.

It really is great. Probably one of the most uplifting things I’ve ever read, despite all the dark elements in the bacstory.

I’m watching it again. Is one of the best school romance anime.

God bless you!

I just remember the leads being adorable.

Well, I think there isn’t much of a difference if that relationship is the focus or not. The presence of it, has some purpose. Social engineering, acceptance of these by the viewer, author appeal, or a combination of various motives.

If these are depicted in a positive or neautral manner, there is a problem. And is better to avoid (or to promote) shows like that.

I don’t dispute that it would be better if the relationship were not present (or present, but not depicted in a positive manner). But if we refuse to hear stories that don’t agree with our beliefs 100% in every manner, we’ll find ourselves with very few stories. And what’s more, we won’t understand how to create anything better, because we won’t be learning about storytelling from anyone outside our own ideology.

Basically, with yaoi, or yuri, for example, these are some of the things to consider:

People that could be influenced by that in various manners. For example, with acceptance towards these relationships as something normal or good.

People that find these an ocassion of sin, for example, shippers of these pairings, that write or draw these, or consume works woth them, finding them arousing, etc.

What kind of depiction is being done of these relationships? good? neutral? it has a didactic reason, like acknowledging their moral problems?

Yeah, all of that is something to consider. But if it’s a relatively small part of the whole, we have to think about whether that problem is a good enough reason to drop a story. If a positively-portrayed gay relationship were the focus of a story, I wouldn’t watch that story. If a lesbian couple showed up in one episode of an otherwise-excellent show, and then disappeared, I wouldn’t drop the show for that reason. The question is where the line is between “eh, I disagree with the creator” and “wow, I really shouldn’t be watching this”.

But there is a difference between not agreeing with certain plot elements, or ideas, and these elements being moral issues related to the 6th and 9th Commandments.

There are certain things to avoid, even if these aren’t an ocassion of sin for us.

I don’t make a habit of dropping every story I come across that portrays some sin or another in a positive light. If I did, I’d probably have to stick to certain children’s media and Christian Fiction, and certain very old works. I do try to avoid works that have more bad than good in them, but it’s always a balancing act.

 

[Tenofovir]

There are lgbt supporters among manga writers.

I mentioned the other posibilities too, like fetishistic and commercial motives, and author appeal.

I think the LGBT influence in Japan is way overrated.

Yes, but why?

They don’t want to insult the Japanese. Sex tourism is also big in Asia. In Thailand and Cambodia parents sell their children for sex. Why?

These are important too, from an author viewpoint, when having discussions, and something to conseider when recomending or promoting a series.

But the author here is Japanese. Unless we speak of fanfiction. But fanfiction is meh.

 

[CesarAugustus]

I think the LGBT influence in Japan is way overrated.

I don’t know how many, but there are supporters among some writers, etc.

They don’t want to insult the Japanese. Sex tourism is also big in Asia. In Thailand and Cambodia parents sell their children for sex. Why?

Well, that could be a reason.

But the author here is Japanese. Unless we speak of fanfiction. But fanfiction is meh.

But the people reading these forums, or the ones reading western blogs, sites, etc. Are western for the most part.

 

[Tenofovir]

I don’t know how many, but there are supporters among some writers, etc.

I don’t deny it. But I think we tend to project too much of our Western concerns on Japan. Many of their anime and manga artists are probably just more perverted and allowed to be open about it. I think the real yuri is there more for heterosexual fans than activists who want to normalise that in Japan. And Japan I hear is pretty tolerant of real life LGBT things.

Well, that could be a reason.

But the people reading these forums, or the ones reading western blogs, sites, etc. Are western for the most part.

But anime/manga is Japanese and intended for Japanese consumption. Now Western fanfiction is different and is largely amateur material but let’s not conflate it with the shows we watch. We don’t really watch fanfiction shows, do we? These don’t exist.

So when we say LGBT activism, I think that’s not really as influential. Maybe it is for Western fanfiction writers but by the large we tend to discuss production shows and not that, surely?

 

[CesarAugustus]

Haha, yes. I know for me, I just care about character interaction a lot in general, so I “ship” platonic friendships in much the same way that I “ship” romantic pairings. It’s like, sometimes I love part of what a show gave me, but I either wish that there was more of it or don’t like certain aspects, so I like expanding on the good parts by reading (and now writing, because apparently I’m at that point) fanfic about them.

I see. Yes, in your case would be mainly for expanding something that you liked about the show.

I’ve reached the “collecting fanart” stage several times before. I guess I just like having cute stuff on hand.

Yes, that’s quite common, and not bad per se, unless the stuff shared is about ecchi, and similar contents, or by people that draw erotic stuff, etc. because by sharing these, that would be a promotion of their galleries or blogs, leading people to these.

That’s definitely an issue. I don’t think people become attached enough to write fanfics unless there’s quite a lot that they like about the work, so generally they’re only going to devote that sort of time to works do have various good things going for them.

Yes. Some people sticks to certain series, and other are more “seasonal”.

Sometimes it’s not so much that the original work is clearly morally wrong, just that the presentation was unfortunate, could be interpreted as backing a bad message, or was a bad move in terms of storytelling. The series isn’t necessarily in the wrong, but it could be better, you know?

Of course, often the fans’ idea of “better” is much worse than canon, but sometimes it’s worth wading through for the few times they come up with something really great.

I know. Is for example, about changing plotlines they didn’t liked, or something that happened to a character, or designs and presentation, and other motives too

Yeah, I think you’re right about that. Fandoms definitely do have some striking resemblances to religion. But it’s not so much like Catholicism or Islam, you know? More like Protestant Christianity, where standard practice is to take the Bible (canon) and interpret it for yourself, then find a church (sub-set of fans) that agrees with you, rather than listening to the creator or any sort of authority on how to interpret the work.

(Wow, I feel like that was a really pretentious analogy. It kind of fits, though.)

Yes, there are methods of organization in fandoms, and the approach taken to them, that have similarities to more subjective religions.

I think that some fans are not very religious, and they are trying to fill various voids in fandoms.

I just remember the leads being adorable.

Yes, they make a cute couple!

I don’t dispute that it would be better if the relationship were not present (or present, but not depicted in a positive manner). But if we refuse to hear stories that don’t agree with our beliefs 100% in every manner, we’ll find ourselves with very few stories. And what’s more, we won’t understand how to create anything better, because we won’t be learning about storytelling from anyone outside our own ideology.

Is not needed to actually see all sorts of shows to have some understanding of storytelling. Even reading about these shows, or visiting wikis, tvtropes, reading opinions of fans could be useful. Of course, adding a more education with books, or courses is better.

Yeah, all of that is something to consider. But if it’s a relatively small part of the whole, we have to think about whether that problem is a good enough reason to drop a story. If a positively-portrayed gay relationship were the focus of a story, I wouldn’t watch that story. If a lesbian couple showed up in one episode of an otherwise-excellent show, and then disappeared, I wouldn’t drop the show for that reason. The question is where the line is between “eh, I disagree with the creator” and “wow, I really shouldn’t be watching this”.

I don’t make a habit of dropping every story I come across that portrays some sin or another in a positive light. If I did, I’d probably have to stick to certain children’s media and Christian Fiction, and certain very old works. I do try to avoid works that have more bad than good in them, but it’s always a balancing act.

Not all sins are the same.

I think that there are some standards. These would be: Avoiding blasphemy, excesive violence, anticatholicism, porn, ecchi, and regarding yaoi and yuri, positive depictions of these relationships.

These are somrthing I’ve been building based on what I’ve read, and some analysis I’ve been doing.

And that leaves room for many shows.

It would be good if a Priest of solid orthodoxy, or a expert on Moral Theology could write here about these things too.

God bless you!

 

[CesarAugustus]

Haha, yes. I know for me, I just care about character interaction a lot in general, so I “ship” platonic friendships in much the same way that I “ship” romantic pairings. It’s like, sometimes I love part of what a show gave me, but I either wish that there was more of it or don’t like certain aspects, so I like expanding on the good parts by reading (and now writing, because apparently I’m at that point) fanfic about them.

I see. Yes, in your case would be mainly for expanding something that you liked about the show.

I’ve reached the “collecting fanart” stage several times before. I guess I just like having cute stuff on hand.

Yes, that’s quite common, and not bad per se, unless the stuff shared is about ecchi, and similar contents, or by people that draw erotic stuff, etc. because by sharing these, that would be a promotion of their galleries or blogs, leading people to these.

That’s definitely an issue. I don’t think people become attached enough to write fanfics unless there’s quite a lot that they like about the work, so generally they’re only going to devote that sort of time to works do have various good things going for them.

Yes. Some people sticks to certain series, and other are more “seasonal”.

Sometimes it’s not so much that the original work is clearly morally wrong, just that the presentation was unfortunate, could be interpreted as backing a bad message, or was a bad move in terms of storytelling. The series isn’t necessarily in the wrong, but it could be better, you know?

Of course, often the fans’ idea of “better” is much worse than canon, but sometimes it’s worth wading through for the few times they come up with something really great.

I know. Is for example, about changing plotlines they didn’t liked, or something that happened to a character, or designs and presentation, and other motives too

Yeah, I think you’re right about that. Fandoms definitely do have some striking resemblances to religion. But it’s not so much like Catholicism or Islam, you know? More like Protestant Christianity, where standard practice is to take the Bible (canon) and interpret it for yourself, then find a church (sub-set of fans) that agrees with you, rather than listening to the creator or any sort of authority on how to interpret the work.

(Wow, I feel like that was a really pretentious analogy. It kind of fits, though.)

Yes, there are certain things in fandoms, and some of the approaches taken to them, that have similarities to more subjective religions.

I think that some fans are not very religious, and they are trying to fill various voids in fandoms.

I just remember the leads being adorable.

Yes, they make a cute couple!

I don’t dispute that it would be better if the relationship were not present (or present, but not depicted in a positive manner). But if we refuse to hear stories that don’t agree with our beliefs 100% in every manner, we’ll find ourselves with very few stories. And what’s more, we won’t understand how to create anything better, because we won’t be learning about storytelling from anyone outside our own ideology.

Is not needed to actually see all sorts of shows to have some understanding of storytelling. Even reading about these shows, or visiting wikis, tvtropes, reading opinions of fans could be useful. Of course, adding a more education with books, or courses is better.

Yeah, all of that is something to consider. But if it’s a relatively small part of the whole, we have to think about whether that problem is a good enough reason to drop a story. If a positively-portrayed gay relationship were the focus of a story, I wouldn’t watch that story. If a lesbian couple showed up in one episode of an otherwise-excellent show, and then disappeared, I wouldn’t drop the show for that reason. The question is where the line is between “eh, I disagree with the creator” and “wow, I really shouldn’t be watching this”.

I don’t make a habit of dropping every story I come across that portrays some sin or another in a positive light. If I did, I’d probably have to stick to certain children’s media and Christian Fiction, and certain very old works. I do try to avoid works that have more bad than good in them, but it’s always a balancing act.

Not all depictions of sin are the same.

I think that there are some standards. These would be: Avoiding blasphemy, excesive violence, anticatholicism, porn, ecchi, and regarding yaoi and yuri, positive depictions of these relationships.

These are somrthing I’ve been building based on what I’ve read, and some analysis I’ve been doing.

And that leaves room for many shows.

It would be good if a Priest of solid orthodoxy, or a expert on Moral Theology could write here about these things too.

God bless you!

 

[CesarAugustus]

Haha, yes. I know for me, I just care about character interaction a lot in general, so I “ship” platonic friendships in much the same way that I “ship” romantic pairings. It’s like, sometimes I love part of what a show gave me, but I either wish that there was more of it or don’t like certain aspects, so I like expanding on the good parts by reading (and now writing, because apparently I’m at that point) fanfic about them.

I see. Yes, in your case would be mainly for expanding something that you liked about the show.

I’ve reached the “collecting fanart” stage several times before. I guess I just like having cute stuff on hand.

Yes, that’s quite common, and not bad per se, unless the stuff shared is about ecchi, and similar contents, or by people that draw erotic stuff, etc. because by sharing these, that would be a promotion of their galleries or blogs, leading people to these.

That’s definitely an issue. I don’t think people become attached enough to write fanfics unless there’s quite a lot that they like about the work, so generally they’re only going to devote that sort of time to works do have various good things going for them.

Yes. Some people sticks to certain series, and other are more “seasonal”.

Sometimes it’s not so much that the original work is clearly morally wrong, just that the presentation was unfortunate, could be interpreted as backing a bad message, or was a bad move in terms of storytelling. The series isn’t necessarily in the wrong, but it could be better, you know?

Of course, often the fans’ idea of “better” is much worse than canon, but sometimes it’s worth wading through for the few times they come up with something really great.

I know. Is for example, about changing plotlines they didn’t liked, or something that happened to a character, or designs and presentation, and other motives too

Yeah, I think you’re right about that. Fandoms definitely do have some striking resemblances to religion. But it’s not so much like Catholicism or Islam, you know? More like Protestant Christianity, where standard practice is to take the Bible (canon) and interpret it for yourself, then find a church (sub-set of fans) that agrees with you, rather than listening to the creator or any sort of authority on how to interpret the work.

(Wow, I feel like that was a really pretentious analogy. It kind of fits, though.)

Yes, there are certain things in fandoms, and some of the approaches taken to them, that have similarities to more subjective religions.

I think that some fans are not very religious, and they are trying to fill various voids in fandoms.

I just remember the leads being adorable.

Yes, they make a cute couple!

I don’t dispute that it would be better if the relationship were not present (or present, but not depicted in a positive manner). But if we refuse to hear stories that don’t agree with our beliefs 100% in every manner, we’ll find ourselves with very few stories. And what’s more, we won’t understand how to create anything better, because we won’t be learning about storytelling from anyone outside our own ideology.

Is not needed to actually see all sorts of shows to have some understanding of storytelling. Even reading about these shows, or visiting wikis, tvtropes, reading opinions of fans could be useful. Of course, adding a more education with books, or courses is better.

Yeah, all of that is something to consider. But if it’s a relatively small part of the whole, we have to think about whether that problem is a good enough reason to drop a story. If a positively-portrayed gay relationship were the focus of a story, I wouldn’t watch that story. If a lesbian couple showed up in one episode of an otherwise-excellent show, and then disappeared, I wouldn’t drop the show for that reason. The question is where the line is between “eh, I disagree with the creator” and “wow, I really shouldn’t be watching this”.

I don’t make a habit of dropping every story I come across that portrays some sin or another in a positive light. If I did, I’d probably have to stick to certain children’s media and Christian Fiction, and certain very old works. I do try to avoid works that have more bad than good in them, but it’s always a balancing act.

Not all depictions of sin are the same.

I think that there are some standards. These would be: Avoiding blasphemy, excesive violence, anticatholicism, porn, ecchi, and regarding yaoi and yuri, positive depictions of these relationships.

These are somrthing I’ve been building based on what I’ve read, and some analysis I’ve been doing.

And that leaves room for many shows.

It would be good if a doctrinally orthodox Priest, or a expert on Moral Theology could write here about these things too.

God bless you!

 

[CesarAugustus]

I don’t deny it. But I think we tend to project too much of our Western concerns on Japan. Many of their anime and manga artists are probably just more perverted and allowed to be open about it. I think the real yuri is there more for heterosexual fans than activists who want to normalise that in Japan. And Japan I hear is pretty tolerant of real life LGBT things.

But anime/manga is Japanese and intended for Japanese consumption. Now Western fanfiction is different and is largely amateur material but let’s not conflate it with the shows we watch. We don’t really watch fanfiction shows, do we? These don’t exist.

So when we say LGBT activism, I think that’s not really as influential. Maybe it is for Western fanfiction writers but by the large we tend to discuss production shows and not that, surely?

Example, someone promotes or discusses in a website, blog or forum, a show with lots of emotional bonding between girls. Let’s say is a more ambiguous show.

Among the possible public for the show, there would be people influenced by said activism, (or by fetichism) that are going to enjoy the show, interpreting the series as yuri.

 

[CesarAugustus]

Haha, yes. I know for me, I just care about character interaction a lot in general, so I “ship” platonic friendships in much the same way that I “ship” romantic pairings. It’s like, sometimes I love part of what a show gave me, but I either wish that there was more of it or don’t like certain aspects, so I like expanding on the good parts by reading (and now writing, because apparently I’m at that point) fanfic about them.

I see. So in your case, is mainly to exapnd what you liked about the series or characters?

I’ve reached the “collecting fanart” stage several times before. I guess I just like having cute stuff on hand.

That is very common! and fun!

It could turn problematic, if the fanart collected or shared is erotic, or if the fanart being shared or linked, is from an author that has erotic or sexually explicit galleries, because linking to that, would be leading people into an ocassion of sin.

That’s definitely an issue. I don’t think people become attached enough to write fanfics unless there’s quite a lot that they like about the work, so generally they’re only going to devote that sort of time to works do have various good things going for them.

Sometimes it’s not so much that the original work is clearly morally wrong, just that the presentation was unfortunate, could be interpreted as backing a bad message, or was a bad move in terms of storytelling. The series isn’t necessarily in the wrong, but it could be better, you know?

Of course, often the fans’ idea of “better” is much worse than canon, but sometimes it’s worth wading through for the few times they come up with something really great.

Yes I know. Trying to improve or change plot elements, or somethings about the characters, or the message are part of it too.

I agree that sometimes, instead of improving a work, some fans make something that isn’t good.

Yeah, I think you’re right about that. Fandoms definitely do have some striking resemblances to religion. But it’s not so much like Catholicism or Islam, you know? More like Protestant Christianity, where standard practice is to take the Bible (canon) and interpret it for yourself, then find a church (sub-set of fans) that agrees with you, rather than listening to the creator or any sort of authority on how to interpret the work.

(Wow, I feel like that was a really pretentious analogy. It kind of fits, though.)

Yes, You got the part about subjectivism among some fans.

I think that some fans aren’t religious, so they fill that (and other) place with their fandom stuff.

I just remember the leads being adorable.

Yes, they make a cute couple!

I don’t dispute that it would be better if the relationship were not present (or present, but not depicted in a positive manner). But if we refuse to hear stories that don’t agree with our beliefs 100% in every manner, we’ll find ourselves with very few stories. And what’s more, we won’t understand how to create anything better, because we won’t be learning about storytelling from anyone outside our own ideology.

I think isn’t needed to watch all sort of shows for getting storytelling knowledge. Reading about some productions in tvtropes, wikis, sites, blogs and forums is useful too. Better when coupled with study from courses and books.

Yeah, all of that is something to consider. But if it’s a relatively small part of the whole, we have to think about whether that problem is a good enough reason to drop a story. If a positively-portrayed gay relationship were the focus of a story, I wouldn’t watch that story. If a lesbian couple showed up in one episode of an otherwise-excellent show, and then disappeared, I wouldn’t drop the show for that reason. The question is where the line is between “eh, I disagree with the creator” and “wow, I really shouldn’t be watching this”.

I don’t make a habit of dropping every story I come across that portrays some sin or another in a positive light. If I did, I’d probably have to stick to certain children’s media and Christian Fiction, and certain very old works. I do try to avoid works that have more bad than good in them, but it’s always a balancing act.

I think there are certain guidelines, for example, avoiding blasphemy, porn, ecchi, excesive violence, and regaridng yaoi and yuri, positive depictions of these relationships.

That still leaves space for lots of shows, is not that limiting.

God bless you!

 

[Kamaduck]

I see. So in your case, is mainly to exapnd what you liked about the series or characters?

Yup! That’s the main idea, for me.

That is very common! and fun.

It could turn problematic, if the fanart collected or shared is erotic, or if the fanart being shared or linked, is from an author that has erotic or sexually explicit galleries, because linking to that, would be leading people into an ocassion of sin.

Clearly. But I stick to G-rated fanart, don’t worry.

Yes I know. Trying to improve or change plot elements, or somethings about the characters, or the message are part of it too.

I agree that sometimes, instead of improving a work, some fans make something that isn’t good.

I’d go as far as saying that the vast majority of fanfiction is much lower quality than canon. But it can still be a lot of fun to expand a work, and there are always those rare works that really do something amazing.

I think isn’t needed to watch all sort of shows for getting storytelling knowledge. Reading about some productions in tvtropes, wikis, sites, blogs and forums is useful too. Better when coupled with study from courses and books.

It’s useful, but it’s not a substitute for consuming stories. I really think that writers have to learn to write from other writers, and artists have to learn how to do art by looking at the work of other artists. Without that exchange of creativity, people can create something technically correct, but there are a lot of useful techniques they’re not going to pick up.

I think there are certain guidelines, for example, avoiding blasphemy, porn, ecchi, excesive violence, and regaridng yaoi and yuri, positive depictions of these relationships.

That still leaves space for lots of shows, is not that limiting.

God bless you!

There are some things I won’t compromise on, sure. It’s just that your list is slightly different than mine.

 

[CesarAugustus]

Clearly. But I stick to G-rated fanart, don’t worry.

I was thinking more in the second part, that is, being careful about which galleries or blogs are being promoted by sharing fanart.

I’d go as far as saying that the vast majority of fanfiction is much lower quality than canon. But it can still be a lot of fun to expand a work, and there are always those rare works that really do something amazing.

Yes.

It’s useful, but it’s not a substitute for consuming stories. I really think that writers have to learn to write from other writers, and artists have to learn how to do art by looking at the work of other artists. Without that exchange of creativity, people can create something technically correct, but there are a lot of useful techniques they’re not going to pick up.

Well, is not like I’m not watching anything, there are various productions I’m watching and reading.

There are some things I won’t compromise on, sure. It’s just that your list is slightly different than mine.

I’m still learning about some aspects of the topic of standards, etc.

 

[CesarAugustus]

Clearly. But I stick to G-rated fanart, don’t worry.

I was thinking more in the second part, that is, being careful about which galleries or blogs are being promoted by sharing fanart.

I’d go as far as saying that the vast majority of fanfiction is much lower quality than canon. But it can still be a lot of fun to expand a work, and there are always those rare works that really do something amazing.

Yes.

It’s useful, but it’s not a substitute for consuming stories. I really think that writers have to learn to write from other writers, and artists have to learn how to do art by looking at the work of other artists. Without that exchange of creativity, people can create something technically correct, but there are a lot of useful techniques they’re not going to pick up.

Well, is not like I’m not watching anything, there are various productions I’m watching and reading.

There are some things I won’t compromise on, sure. It’s just that your list is slightly different than mine.

I’m still learning about some aspects of the topic of standards, etc.

 

[CesarAugustus]

Clearly. But I stick to G-rated fanart, don’t worry.

I was thinking more in the second part, that is, being careful about which galleries or blogs are being promoted by sharing fanart.

I’d go as far as saying that the vast majority of fanfiction is much lower quality than canon. But it can still be a lot of fun to expand a work, and there are always those rare works that really do something amazing.

Yes.

It’s useful, but it’s not a substitute for consuming stories. I really think that writers have to learn to write from other writers, and artists have to learn how to do art by looking at the work of other artists. Without that exchange of creativity, people can create something technically correct, but there are a lot of useful techniques they’re not going to pick up.

Well, is not like I’m not watching anything, there are various productions I’m watching and reading.

There are some things I won’t compromise on, sure. It’s just that your list is slightly different than mine.

I’m still learning about some aspects of the topic of standards, etc.

God bless you!

 

[CesarAugustus]

Clearly. But I stick to G-rated fanart, don’t worry.

I was thinking more in the second part, that is, being careful about which galleries or blogs are being promoted by sharing fanart.

I’d go as far as saying that the vast majority of fanfiction is much lower quality than canon. But it can still be a lot of fun to expand a work, and there are always those rare works that really do something amazing.

Yes, I agree.

It’s useful, but it’s not a substitute for consuming stories. I really think that writers have to learn to write from other writers, and artists have to learn how to do art by looking at the work of other artists. Without that exchange of creativity, people can create something technically correct, but there are a lot of useful techniques they’re not going to pick up.

Well, is not like I’m not watching anything, there are various productions I’m watching and reading.

There are some things I won’t compromise on, sure. It’s just that your list is slightly different than mine.

I’m still learning about some aspects of the topic of standards, etc.

God bless you!

 

[Kamaduck]

I was thinking more in the second part, that is, being careful about which galleries or blogs are being promoted by sharing fanart.

See, OK, this might sound weird, but I tend to hoard fanart on my iPad and not necessarily share it with anyone. Like I said, I just like having cute things on hand, so I can look at them when I’m sad.

Well, is not like I’m not watching anything, there are various productions I’m watching and reading.

Yeah, I know. I guess I just bristle at this sort of thing, because I used to be told that even the smallest problematic aspect was grounds to stop reading or watching a story. This was back when I was Protestant. Now that I’ve had the chance to set my own standards, I know they’re lax by some people’s measurements, and strict by other people’s. I’m OK with that, and I recognize that my standards are just for me, and other people can have stricter or laxer standards with media without it meaning anything bad.

I really am trying to remember that everyone is different with regard to how media affects them and what stories they want to hear.

 

[CesarAugustus]

See, OK, this might sound weird, but I tend to hoard fanart on my iPad and not necessarily share it with anyone. Like I said, I just like having cute things on hand, so I can look at them when I’m sad.

It doesn’t sounds weird.

Yeah, I know. I guess I just bristle at this sort of thing, because I used to be told that even the smallest problematic aspect was grounds to stop reading or watching a story. This was back when I was Protestant. Now that I’ve had the chance to set my own standards, I know they’re lax by some people’s measurements, and strict by other people’s. I’m OK with that, and I recognize that my standards are just for me, and other people can have stricter or laxer standards with media without it meaning anything bad.

I really am trying to remember that everyone is different with regard to how media affects them and what stories they want to hear.

I guess that explains it.

Yes, it would be good to remember that.

God bless you!

 

[CesarAugustus]

See, OK, this might sound weird, but I tend to hoard fanart on my iPad and not necessarily share it with anyone. Like I said, I just like having cute things on hand, so I can look at them when I’m sad.

It doesn’t sounds weird.

Yeah, I know. I guess I just bristle at this sort of thing, because I used to be told that even the smallest problematic aspect was grounds to stop reading or watching a story. This was back when I was Protestant. Now that I’ve had the chance to set my own standards, I know they’re lax by some people’s measurements, and strict by other people’s. I’m OK with that, and I recognize that my standards are just for me, and other people can have stricter or laxer standards with media without it meaning anything bad.

I really am trying to remember that everyone is different with regard to how media affects them and what stories they want to hear.

I guess that explains it.

Yes, it would be good to remember that.

God bless you!

 

[IdaD]

Hey there everyone. Just registered and of course I had to look for the anime thread as I do in all forums I am a member of .

Not sure if anyone else uses MAL but I’d be willing to post it. I’m a big fan although I haven’t had time to watch as much recently because of classes but I always like discussing with other fans.

Favorite genres would be slice of life (Nichijou, Pani Poni Dash, Azumanga, etc), RomCom (Toradora, Lovely Complex, etc), and other assorted moe-shows (K-On, Non Non biyori, etc); not too much into the action stuff.

My older brother and my daughter are into anime. My daughter likes InuYasha and sketches anime characters.
I like the tv show Supernatural. I like suspense and a good story line in spooky movies. I just don’t like gore. I can handle supernatural, but not horror movies.

 

[CesarAugustus]

I watched episode 6 of Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru recently.

This time the magical girls transformations were reduced in time, so the fanservice of some of them wasn’t long as before.

Possibly, this episode is the one that starts the change of tone, since there were some indications about the girls’s powers and their properties.