Another reason to not watch football

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Why are people so hell-bent on controlling everyone else? Pull the beam from your own eyes first. If you don’t like them kneeling during the National Anthem then don’t watch. It’s not that hard.

Being offended is a choice. I choose to not let their actions offend me.

Life is so much easier when you live and let live.
 
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Lemuel said:
Why are people so hell bent on controlling everyone else? Pull the beam from your own eyes first. If you don’t like them kneeling during the National Anthem then don’t watch. It’s not that hard.

Being offended is a choice. I choose to not let their actions offend me.

Life is so much easier when you live and let live.
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so sit on the sidelines and do nothing.

it has nothing to do with control.

they are pushing their agenda and we have a right to disagree.
 
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It’s a private organization and they can have whatever rules they want.
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agreed but we don’t have to agree on how and when they enforce the rules. if it is against the rules to wear a non nfl shirt ok, but why just the one i want and not the one he wants.

the nfl is selective in the enforcement of its rules. which it has a right to be but they need to be called out on it especially when it is anti-military.

ymmv
 
Sure, if that’s where you want to put your energy. For me, it’s easier to just turn off the TV. Life is too short to always be worried about what everyone else is doing.
 
Lemuel said:
There’s no such thing as constitutional rights. My rights come from God, not from a man-made Constitution.
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I didn’t say our rights aren’t from God. They are. And the writers of the bill of rights knew that and made it clear. They were protecting us from a tyrannical government that would usurp these powers (it only took less than 200 years for that to happen).

But while it’s all fine to say “my rights come from God” (no one is saying they aren’t) but try arguing that in a court or legal proceeding. You’ll be laughed out by the lawyers and judge. When we are discussing the rights that an individual has compared to another entity, we have to be specific and look at what is applicable. Contract law? Constitutional law?

Again, no one is saying our rights aren’t from God.
 
Cthompson said:
But while it’s all fine to say “my rights come from God” (no one is saying they aren’t) but try arguing that in a court or legal proceeding. You’ll be laughed out by the lawyers and judge.
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Perhaps. I’m 61 years old and have never seen the inside of a court room. Not sure I ever will. I would first have to agree that said court had jurisdiction over me. I agree with the part about contract law. That was the issue in the OP. I was just pointing out that “constitutional rights” is a fictional thing. And it is . . .
 
Oh, I have to amend what I said. I did get jury duty one time. I ended that promptly, though.
 
Well having gone to Anger Management Classes a long time ago.
I was told: “Getting Angry is a Choice”.
You would not believe how much I’ve chilled out since then.
I take most with a grain of salt. I am aging at less rate than I use to.
 
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the 2a …right to bear arms shall not be…

what is an arm? what can be banned? states can pass what they want. is a silencer an arm? is a magazine an arm? can they be banned.

the problem is that lawmakers do what they want with laws. for an example a magazine in crazyfornia is considered an arm and could have made a person a criminal for owning one even without a gun. see joisy for other crazy interpretations that get a person locked up
Magazines holding more than 10 rounds are “arms.” California Penal Code Section 32310, as amended by Proposition 63, burdens the core of the Second Amendment by criminalizing the mere possession of these magazines that are commonly held by law-abiding citizens for defense of self, home, and state.
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Lemuel said:
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they have fined players for various actions of free expression.
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There’s no such thing as free expression when you’re an employee. You abide by the rules of your employer.
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you can have an issue when the employer discriminates in the enforcement of its rules.
 
Cthompson said:
With that being said, the NFL is a private organization and can do as they like. A private organization has the ability to limit its employees’ speech.

It’s an issue of contractual VS constitutional rights. Constitutional rights, such as the freedom of speech, do not apply in an employee-business setting. The employees are bound to the contractual rights of the NFL, and therefore, are not guaranteed freedom of speech.
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May I just say that while I argued about your use of the term “Constitutional rights” the rest of your post was a bullseye.
 
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I wonder what the reaction would be if some players started kneeling to protest abortion. Or to protest how the Little Sisters of the Poor were treated. I could see how this could go on forever since there will always be some injustice.
 
kew_65 said:
As A Military Veteran I don’t feel disrespected because an American Citizen protests something their government is doing. I served so people can do that. If you don’t want to watch the NFL then that is fine for you to do as a protest, but don’t say they are disrespecting veterans because they protest. I was US Army Active and Reserve From 1984 to 1992. IMHO.
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why does the nfl display the flag and sing the anthem? what is ck protesting? we have a right to disagree with them and to voice our opinion as they do theirs.

when the nfl disallows other protest but allows protest against the flag and anthem there is a problem.
 
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