Another reason to not watch football

[JoshuaIsLord]

why does the nfl display the flag and sing the anthem? what is ck protesting? we have a right to disagree with them and to voice our opinion as they do theirs.

when the nfl disallows other protest but allows protest against the flag and anthem there is a problem.

One form of protest was the actual defacement of the Uniform they wear. The other was not. That there is the distinction. I had to call up an equipment manager I know for the Saints and asked him.

 

[upant]

what about when they both wear unauthorized t-shirts and one is fined $10k and the other isn’t

 

[JoshuaIsLord]

That is on a case by case issue and subject to team rules. Their are league rules and there are individual Team rules. And some rules are just policies. It is solely up to the owner and manager to fine or not fine.

 

[JoshuaIsLord]

2010 was a great year, Bama won the National Championship and Saints won the Superbowl.

 

[upant]

always an excuse when one agrees with what they say as there is always an offense when one disagrees.

enjoy your games. i’ll go for a walk outside.

 

[JoshuaIsLord]

I was not an NFL fan until I moved St. Francisville La and became a Saints Fan.
I worked at Riverbend Nuclear Power Station for 3 years.

Being from a non-NFL state growing up, I never got into the NFL mentality.
Wife is a Patriots fan.
It will be hell to pay if both those teams ever meet in the Super Bowl.
My friend is one of a dozen Equipment Managers. It is retired and does it part time during the season. I think like 7 are year round employees.

 

[upant]

I wonder what the reaction would be if some players started kneeling to protest abortion. Or to protest how the Little Sisters of the Poor were treated. I could see how this could go on forever since there will always be some injustice.

if the nfl allows one why shouldn’t it allow all free expression. why just against the vet and country

 

[Wesrock]

I don’t understand why kneeling during the national anthem is seen as directly disrespecting veterans. The anthem does not belong to nor singularly represent the military or veterans. It’s the national anthem, not the veterans’ anthem.

 

[Cruciferi]

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[upant]

I don’t understand why kneeling during the national anthem is seen as directly disrespecting veterans. The anthem does not belong to nor singularly represent the military or veterans. It’s the national anthem, not the veterans’ anthem.

the song was originally just an anthem for the U.S. Army and Navy. it became the national anthem later.

according to one report it had its start at a ball game during the civil war but really took off during ww1. it was played in honor of those fighting overseas. it grew larger during ww2 and during the vietnam war, nfl commissioner pete rozelle enforced a policy that players stand at attention during the anthem. it could be enforced today if the nfl wanted to.

 

[ChunkMonk]

Yeah they really messed up by politicizing the game. The protests (which are actually just more attention-seeking) were just the icing on the cake.

 

[7_Sorrows]

And during the Political Stunt by the Vice President. This General was just standing without his hand on his chest. Since he was in Uniform, he should have been saluting. And the Goober behind the VP is using his left hand instead of his right. And the woman behind Mrs Pence was doing something else. DISGRACEFUL.

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Maybe the Goober behind the VP is disabled and unable to use his right arm?

 

[upant]

Weird to consider it unpatriotic to kneel during the Anthem and yet vote for a 5X Draftdodger who calls GoldStar widows liars. Just seems a little hypocritical.

what option did you have? vote anti-catholic hillary?

abortion on demand, gay marriage, pay to play government, anti self defense, etc. etc.

the anthem is above the politics of the day and is played at sports games to remember the vet. or at least that was the original intent. the left hijacks whatever it can to push their agenda. so we change a little history, lie a little, as gruber said a “lack of transparency” and the “stupidity of the American voter”

 

[upant]

This General was just standing without his hand on his chest. Since he was in Uniform, he should have been saluting

really? since there appears to be a light on (over the woman’s right shoulder) i am assuming this is indoor; maybe a box. the rules as per the air force.

Key regulations and some of their details are:
AIR FORCE INSTRUCTION 34-1201
4 OCTOBER 2006
Services
PROTOCOL

2.17.2. Indoors. Military members in uniform, while in formations, should wear appropriate headgear and render the military salute at the first note of the National Anthem and maintain that position until the last note. While not wearing headgear during an indoor ceremony, military members, in formation or not, should stand at attention at the first note of the National Anthem and maintain that position until the last note without rendering the military salute. There is one exception to this. Military members in uniform, under arms, should salute. Civilians should stand at attention facing the flag with their right hand over their heart.

 

[Lemuel]

Anti catholic Hillary? She actually believes in God unlike Trump who is on his 3rd marriage and has cheated on each of them. Wake up. Grab them by the P***** said a 61 yr old Grandfather Trump.

The standard of one person’s virtues should not depend on another’s lack of virtues.

I voted for and supported neither of them.

 

[Lemuel]

There are perfectly bad choices though and that was two of them.

 

[upant]

Anti catholic Hillary? She actually believes in God unlike Trump who is on his 3rd marriage and has cheated on each of them. Wake up. Grab them by the P***** said a 61 yr old Grandfather Trump.

does anyone know what hillary believes in? she will say and do anything for her agenda.

yep trump was all that and probably more and people still trusted him more than lying hillary.

speaks volumes

 

[JoshuaIsLord]

really? since there appears to be a light on (over the woman’s right shoulder) i am assuming this is indoor; maybe a box. the rules as per the air force.

36 U.S. Code § 301 - National anthem

(a) Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.

(b) Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;

(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and

(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and

(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

Question now begs if the Air Force rule supercedes US Code?

Notice there is no distinction between inside or outside.

 

[JoshuaIsLord]

But the real issue, is that no one really cares whether you watch football or not. If you are a football fan, you are going to watch it regardless. If you are indifferent or not a fan of Football, then you probably will not watch it. NOBODY CARES REALLY.

UNLESS you happen to belong to one the 25,000 households that make up the Nielsen Family that determines what 318,000,000 plus people are going to watch next year.

I know Nielsen Ratings like the back of my hand.

 

[upant]

Question now begs if the Air Force rule supercedes US Code?

i don’t believe it disagrees with the code but expands it to further detail: indoor versus outdoor and wearing headgear versus not. note the first part is in agreement with the code

2.17.2. Indoors. Military members in uniform, while in formations, should wear appropriate headgear and render the military salute at the first note of the National Anthem and maintain that position until the last note. While not wearing headgear during an indoor ceremony, military members, in formation or not, should stand at attention at the first note of the National Anthem and maintain that position until the last note without rendering the military salute. There is one exception to this. Military members in uniform, under arms, should salute. Civilians should stand at attention facing the flag with their right hand over their heart.