Answering anti-religious "intellectualism/superiority"?

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Yes. Multiple times and it is hurtful. I love everyone an ld accept everyones unique way of beliefs, values and thoughts. But I never attack someone with my religion. So when I am under attack, do to what other “Catholics” do, or just cus they believe they are smarter then me just because I believe in a “book” filled with stories and no scientific proof. It hurts. It hurts alot because my faith is something that is a part of me. They are attacking something I cherish the most. But in situations like this I think of how Jesus would react. What would he do, argue? Even tho what others are saying is false, Jesus would bite his tongue and say nothing. And if they feel they have won the argument because you did not fight back. Then you stay calm and let it be. Cus the last thing Jesus said on the cross when he knew the Jews were wrong and he was God, he said “God forgive them”. Instead, bite your tongue and say a prayer “God. Please forgive their ignorance to my faith. Please help them one day to open their hearts to you and truly see who you are.”. I also want to add that: although they might be smart and know much about the world. That doesnt make their hearts smart. Its like knowing the recipe to millions of cakes, but carrot cake, not even taste it before and yet feel the privilege to critque it. They can talk all they want about that carrot cake. But YOU know the recipe and you have tasted it before. But because they know the recipe to millions of more, regardless of what you say, you will never change their minds because they feel above. Yet in the end, that only makes them look more ignorant then what they really are. To be smart isnt just to know about alot, but to allow yourself to learn about more then what you already know, even when you are wrong.
 
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Barnesy said:
Thats where your argument is going and its as silly as saying theres a justice fairy or a humor pixie becuase if they didnt exist then we wouldnt have justice and humor.
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About as silly as saying that some part of the physical universe has a sense of humour and a sense of justice and that physical reality is the ultimate cause of it.

I have made some edits to my post if you’re interested, some things were added that you missed. But this conversation has reached it’s end.
 
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Barnesy:
Thats where your argument is going and its as silly as saying theres a justice fairy or a humor pixie becuase if they didnt exist then we wouldnt have justice and humor.
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About as silly as saying that some part of the physical universe has a sense of humour and a sense of justice.

I have made some edits to my post if you’re interested, some things were added that you missed. But this conversation has reached it’s end.
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Im part of the universe. Im made of the stuff that the universe is made of. Im a part that has evolved consciousness. Im a part that has a sense of touch and a sense of smell and a sense of justice and a sense of humor. If you want to believe its all supernatural then fair enough. Maybe i should buy you carl sagans book for christmas.

Thank you for reading my posts and i hope you and your family have a nice xmas.
 
Barnesy said:
I read a lot and ive never seen an atheist that believes in genesis. As its the story of how god made the world and every thing in it it seems to me that as atheists dont believe in god then you wouldnt be an atheist if you believe it. Thats logical.
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Where did say atheists believe in a young Earth or in God? I think you’re reading what I wrote incorrectly.
It’s that atheists tell Christians must read Genesis in a literal manner. Some atheists insist allegorical readings of any part of Genesis is incorrect for Christians to do.
 
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Barnesy:
I read a lot and ive never seen an atheist that believes in genesis. As its the story of how god made the world and every thing in it it seems to me that as atheists dont believe in god then you wouldnt be an atheist if you believe it. Thats logical.
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Where did say atheists believe in a young Earth or in God? I think you’re reading what I wrote incorrectly.
It’s that atheists tell Christians must read Genesis in a literal manner. Some atheists insist allegorical readings of any part of Genesis is incorrect for Christians to do.
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Can you show me one? Ive never spoke to or read any one who does that.
 
Barnesy said:
Can you show me one? Ive never spoke to or read any one who does that.
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Do you bookmark everything you read? Save the links to comments you come across? Tape conversations with other people? I don’t.
 
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Barnesy:
Can you show me one? Ive never spoke to or read any one who does that.
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Do you bookmark everything you read? Save the links to comments you come across? Tape conversations with other people? I don’t.
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If you say some thing like atheists tell christians to read genesis literally then i expect you to back it up. It wasnt even some atheists or this atheist i talked to once. It was ‘atheists tell christians’. I think your comment can be ignored.
 
Barnesy said:
It wasnt even some atheists or this atheist i talked to once. It was ‘atheists tell christians’. I think your comment can be ignored.
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I think you should read what people wrote better. Where did I say all atheists? I didn’t. My first reply in the thread was obviously indicating some atheists without using “some”. If you can’t pick up on implicit meaning or speaking in general terms based on personal experiences, that’s unfortunate.
Also, “atheists tell christians” is not a quote from me.
 
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Barnesy:
It wasnt even some atheists or this atheist i talked to once. It was ‘atheists tell christians’. I think your comment can be ignored.
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I think you should read what people wrote better. Where did I say all atheists? I didn’t. My first reply in the thread was obviously indicating some atheists without using “some”. If you can’t pick up on implicit meaning or speaking in general terms based on personal experiences, that’s unfortunate.
Also, “atheists tell christians” is not a quote from me.
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ATraveller said:
It’s that atheists tell Christians must read Genesis in a literal manner.
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Some atheists? Then how about some quotes.
 
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Barnesy said:
Some atheists? Then how about some quotes.
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So apparently I did write that.
But how about reading the first comment that this and other replies were related to:
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These people are blinded by their own arrogance and pride. Maybe even insecurities.
What I find fascinating is how the “genius” atheists are so prone to things like taking Bible passages out of context or think all languages are all alike or ancient languages translate easily into English. The best part is when they tell us how we or anyone should interpret our/their religious scriptures because they think they’re magically better or we/they are doing it wrong. And some atheists get offended when some religious people (wrongly) claim they’re inherently better than atheists and then the same atheists go around doing the same thing. You even see that on CAF.
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So let’s see what this means since you might want clarification.
"genius" atheists is a moniker I use for a subset of atheists who are arrogant. In other words, not all atheists.
they refers to the above moniker.
 
Barnesy said:
So how about some quotes from genius atheists telling christians to read genesis literally??
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Sure but invent a time machine so I can record it for you since I need such an invention.
 
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Barnesy:
So how about some quotes from these atheists telling christians to read genesis literally??
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Sure but invent a time machine so I can record it for you since I need such an invention.
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So its not ‘atheists tell christians to read genesis literaly’. Its ‘some insecure and arrogant guy i talked to once said he tells christians to read genesis literaly’. Big deal. Im sure it was an honest mistake but If you want me to understand exactly what you say then you must write exactly what you mean.
 
Barnesy said:
So its not ‘atheists tell christians to read genesis literaly’. Its ‘some insecure and arrogant guy i talked to once said he tells christians to read genesis literaly’. Big deal. Im sure it was an honest mistake but If you want me to understand exactly what you say then you must write exactly what you mean.
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And comments online. Like I said, I don’t bookmark everything I come across. I’m not going to waste my Christmas break to appease you.
Look, you don’t have to believe any anecdote from anyone on anything. If you don’t believe them, then just say that instead of asking for things normal people don’t keep a record of in the form of bookmarks, transcripts or voice recordings.
By the way, Genesis is only one example but one that sticks out and is the first book of the Bible. And Genesis was brought up by you. Another one would be when some atheists “point out” Christians shouldn’t eat shellfish or wear clothes with mixed fibres. The list could go on.
 
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Barnesy:
So its not ‘atheists tell christians to read genesis literaly’. Its ‘some insecure and arrogant guy i talked to once said he tells christians to read genesis literaly’. Big deal. Im sure it was an honest mistake but If you want me to understand exactly what you say then you must write exactly what you mean.
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And comments online. Like I said, I don’t bookmark everything I come across. I’m not going to waste my Christmas break to appease you.
Look, you don’t have to believe any anecdote from anyone on anything. If you don’t believe them, then just say that instead of asking for things normal people don’t keep a record of in the form of bookmarks, transcripts or voice recordings.
By the way, Genesis is only one example but one that sticks out and is the first book of the Bible. And Genesis was brought up by you. Another one would be when some atheists “point out” Christians shouldn’t eat shellfish or wear clothes with mixed fibres. The list could go on.
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No problem. Its not that any one is saying you are wrong in what you posted. Because its no more than ‘i heard some people say’ or ‘i read somewhere’ it just becomes irrelevant. But have a nice xmas you and your family.
 
Barnesy said:
No problem. Its not that any one is saying you are wrong in what you posted. Because its no more than ‘i heard some people say’ or ‘i read somewhere’ it just becomes irrelevant. But have a nice xmas you and your family.
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But it is relevant. The OP was discussing about her colleagues. She asked if any of us experienced similar things and why they do it. And I offered my experience without getting into the details of what goes on in my life.
And a Merry Christmas to you and your family too.
 
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Barnesy:
No problem. Its not that any one is saying you are wrong in what you posted. Because its no more than ‘i heard some people say’ or ‘i read somewhere’ it just becomes irrelevant. But have a nice xmas you and your family.
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But it is relevant. The OP was discussing about her colleagues. She asked if any of us experienced similar things and why they do it. And I offered my experience without getting into details of what goes on in my life.
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Thats fine. I just hope you werent expecting that any one would give weight to your comments. But they were worth making.
 
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Non sequitur. “Better” as in superior, more intellectual, more sophisticated, etc. is not the same as ignoring well established truths. Ignoring the world around you and focusing on the self is both ignorant and arrogant. Neither is a virtue.
 
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