Anti-abortion protest signs - how far is too far?

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Momofone:
Pictures are worth a thousand words. These pictures of aborted babies are heart wrenching, they are horrifying, but they are the truth. How many people denounced the TV imagery of the marchers at Selma? How many people denounced Schindler’s List or Hotel Rwanda? Or other images of the results of the Holocaust and other instances of genocide? Not too many, I’ll bet. The only ones served by the truth being covered up are the ones perpetuating the slaughter. These are people, whether they are unborn babies, Jews, blacks, Hutus, Tutsis, whites, Indians, Oriental, etc. Covering up the reality does nothing except allow the nightmare of slaughter to go on. And as hard as it is for me to see, it is nothing compared to the suffering that these people go through.
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Momofome:

Thank you you for posting my post with the links to the Thrad on the attempt to end the FILIBUSTER.

I really believe that the MSM and the Culture of Deaht have fed the populace such a steady diet of LIES and misrepresentations, that many Americans and others NEED to be shocked by thes images.

I believe that, If we can BREAK the FILIBUSTER and set the stage for tyhe NOMINATION and FILIBUSTER-FREE CONFIRMATION of at LEAST 2 PRO-LIFE JUSTICES to the SUPREME COURT, that at least one will replace someone who voted to SUSTAIN ROE V. WADE the lst time it came up (it was a 5-4 decision).

That would give us a 5-4 or 6-3 decision to OVERTURN ROE V. WADE! I believe that, if that happened, we’d be invoved in much fairer fights in the States, ones where the MSM couldn’t tilt the pleying field as much.

The thread is - End Pro-Abortion Litmus Test
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=50594

Contact Information on the Senators I want people to e-mail or call:
Re: End Pro-Abortion Litmus Test - Traditional Ang - Post #40:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=632350&postcount=40

Try to read the entire Thread - There are arguments, Sample letters and all sorts of useful things people sent to me. The concentrate on the 7 REPUBLICANS in Bold face. Do the others, along with your state Senators, only if you have enough extra time. If you can only do one or two, just do those one or two and use one of my sample letters. OK?

Our Deadline is MON NIGHT/TUES MORN.

Thank you for your help and for the e-mails.

May God richly bless those who act to save His Little Ones. Michael
 
The following letter to the editor is from a mother protesting that her child was exposed to this imagery. This woman knows there is a debate raging over Canada’s best known abortionist receiving an honourary degree from the local university. Canadian pro-lifers have been struggling to debate the abortion issue in the press. (Read thread Courageous Mothers Thanked for further background) While I respect this mother’s right to express her opinion a phone call to the people in question would have been better. Unfortunately, her letter has only served to undermine prolife efforts.

"Abortion protesters’ pictures too graphic
I want to address the issue of abortion protesters at the corner of Wellington and Commissioners roads.

The message they are portraying is not the issue. I do not support abortion, and I applaud them for trying to do something about it.

I do have an issue, however, with the graphic nature of their signs. At such a busy intersection, I found myself stopped at the light with a disturbing picture of an aborted baby just a few feet away from my car.

When I looked in my rearview mirror, I saw my six-year-old staring, with all the curiosity a child has, at this horrible image.

For me, and thousands of other Londoners who have made the choice to become parents and raise happy, healthy children, I don’t see how these graphic pictures should be allowed or why our children should be subjected to something so inconceivable at such a delicate age.

It’s just not right. "

Tania, London, Ontario, Free Press, May 28.
 
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Rosalinda:
"Abortion protesters’ pictures too graphic
I want to address the issue of abortion protesters at the corner of Wellington and Commissioners roads.

The message they are portraying is not the issue. I do not support abortion, and I applaud them for trying to do something about it.

I do have an issue, however, with the graphic nature of their signs. At such a busy intersection, I found myself stopped at the light with a disturbing picture of an aborted baby just a few feet away from my car.

When I looked in my rearview mirror, I saw my six-year-old staring, with all the curiosity a child has, at this horrible image.

For me, and thousands of other Londoners who have made the choice to become parents and raise happy, healthy children, I don’t see how these graphic pictures should be allowed or why our children should be subjected to something so inconceivable at such a delicate age.

It’s just not right. "

Tania, London, Ontario, Free Press, May 28.
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Oh please. Does Tania worry endlessly about everything her child “stares at?” Did the child react? Ask a question? Likely the child didn’t even know what was pictured and had he/she asked the question it could have been a teaching moment. Now had the child erupted into screams of terror followed by weeks of nightmares, well maybe Tania would have had a legitmate beef. She makes the usual mistake about worrying what might happen…a bad reaction to a photo, to what WILL happen and that is abortion if it is not stopped.

I guess we should not have been subjected to the photos of the Halocaust survivors. It would have been easier for us to feel great about our state of ignorance.

Lisa N
 
Lisa N:
I guess we should not have been subjected to the photos of the Halocaust survivors. It would have been easier for us to feel great about our state of ignorance.
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Amen!

I’d rather my children be exposed to the truth, even when it’s as ugly and horrible as this than to accept the nebulous “clump of cells” lies of the pro-abortion groups.

When my children were small, we had a beautiful picture book of babies at various stages of gestation and when I became pregnant, out comes the book so that we can take a look at what the baby looks like, this week. And these were small kids, too!

Let them see what those money-mills are really doing. If we’d have had this type of realism shoved in our faces since Roe v. Wade, how many children could have been saved?

The fact that PP is working so hard to prevent those 4D ultrasounds from being put into use is clear testimony as to the effectiveness of visualizations on a woman’s decision to abort or not. They don’t want anyone killing their cash cow!

A little shock and emotional trauma is a small price to pay for saving babies, IMO.

Elizabeth
 
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Rosalinda:
While I respect this mother’s right to express her opinion a phone call to the people in question would have been better. Unfortunately, her letter has only served to undermine prolife efforts.
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As someone who is an ACTIVE pro-life activist ;), and someone who has said a few times on this thread that I do not want my 5, 3 and 16 month old exposed to these images (so I am ok with demonstrations with warnings to drivers/walkers, but not those with no warning for families like mine), I completely agree with the above statement.

I once wondered where my siter-in-law to be, stood on abortion, so I told her “I am a pro-life activist” (with no mention of using any graphic pictures, I do use them sparingly, but never in public), and her immediate response was, “My problem with pro-lifers is that they stand there on the street holding pictures that kids shouldn’t see”. While in theory I actually agree with her on that particular part, I just knew from what she said that she was not pro-life, anytime an opinion on abortion starts with “my problem with pro-lifers…” you know that person is pro-choice, or a very weak form of pro-life, IMO.

I think it would be nice if all here could remember that the vast majority of us are pro-life here, and we can respectfully disagree on this particular part of the issue. I am out there, educating the youth on abortion, I am an ACTIVE activist, who has been pro-life as long as I have known what abortion is. I am also a mother of 3 very sensitive little ones, I do not feel they should know these horrors, I also have not shown them pictures of the Holocaust at this point. Please lets not try to pretend that those of us who don’t want young children to see these images are somehow less pro-life, or less committed. I did not know what abortion was until late childhood, and when I did find out, I KNEW it was wrong, I don’t think children NEED to be exposed at very young ages, and I do think that only I know my children well enough to know when they will be ready to learn about this (and other) horrors of our world.
 
Jess I do not believe anyone has suggested that people who disagree about the appropriateness of graphic portrayals of abortion are any less committed. That would be a ridiculous assumption.

I do think though that a flashing image as someone drives by a rally is not going to send a three year old into a lifetime of trauma. The really little children are not even going to recognize what they see and children are such literalists they are not likely to extrapolate a drive by image into their own lives. I don’t think that people should be picketing outside a daycare center or a playground. IOW limit the exposure to the audience that is likely to be old enough to understand what is happening.

While I would really prefer the message to the public is to humanize the unborn child with the beautiful images in the womb that are now available, I don’t think that the more graphic images should be banned or dismissed. Sometimes people need to be shaken up to make a change. You may be too young to be aware of this case but a young black man was killed for evidently whistling at a white woman. His mother INSISTED that his battered body be viewed on the news, in the papers and in magazines. She believed that until people saw the RESULTS of racism, they would not be inclined to work to stop it. She was right.

Lisa N
 
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Rosalinda:
The following letter to the editor is from a mother protesting that her child was exposed to this imagery. This woman knows there is a debate raging over Canada’s best known abortionist receiving an honourary degree from the local university. Canadian pro-lifers have been struggling to debate the abortion issue in the press. (Read thread Courageous Mothers Thanked for further background) While I respect this mother’s right to express her opinion a phone call to the people in question would have been better. Unfortunately, her letter has only served to undermine prolife efforts.

"Abortion protesters’ pictures too graphic
I want to address the issue of abortion protesters at the corner of Wellington and Commissioners roads.

The message they are portraying is not the issue. I do not support abortion, and I applaud them for trying to do something about it.

I do have an issue, however, with the graphic nature of their signs. At such a busy intersection, I found myself stopped at the light with a disturbing picture of an aborted baby just a few feet away from my car.

When I looked in my rearview mirror, I saw my six-year-old staring, with all the curiosity a child has, at this horrible image.

For me, and thousands of other Londoners who have made the choice to become parents and raise happy, healthy children, I don’t see how these graphic pictures should be allowed or why our children should be subjected to something so inconceivable at such a delicate age.

It’s just not right. "

Tania, London, Ontario, Free Press, May 28.
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Oh Please, Give me a break! Right now motorists are being warned well in advance that pictures of aborted babies are ahead before they even come close to getting to the intersection. Therefore those who do not want to see the pictures can turn off another street and take another route. There are many streets which run east & west and north and south. Anyhow, I thought Pro-Choicers like to have many options or choices. So they can chose to keep driving ahead and see the aborted baby pictures or they can detour down another street to avoid the pictures!!! Since when did Pro-Choicers turn Anti-Choice? or are they only Pro-Choice when their decisions are Satanic Choices?
Second, what about all the violent video games parents are buying for their kids which look vitual real? Also, do these people complaining about the graphic pictures really think there were no kids around watching the crucifiction of Jesus.

Last, did you read post# 125? Should Emmitt Till’s mother have left the casket closed in Chicago & therefore never started the civil rights movement?
 
Lisa N:
Jess I do not believe anyone has suggested that people who disagree about the appropriateness of graphic portrayals of abortion are any less committed. That would be a ridiculous assumption.

I do think though that a flashing image as someone drives by a rally is not going to send a three year old into a lifetime of trauma. The really little children are not even going to recognize what they see and children are such literalists they are not likely to extrapolate a drive by image into their own lives. I don’t think that people should be picketing outside a daycare center or a playground. IOW limit the exposure to the audience that is likely to be old enough to understand what is happening.

While I would really prefer the message to the public is to humanize the unborn child with the beautiful images in the womb that are now available, I don’t think that the more graphic images should be banned or dismissed. Sometimes people need to be shaken up to make a change. You may be too young to be aware of this case but a young black man was killed for evidently whistling at a white woman. His mother INSISTED that his battered body be viewed on the news, in the papers and in magazines. She believed that until people saw the RESULTS of racism, they would not be inclined to work to stop it. She was right.

Lisa N
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I completely agree that there is a very important need for the use of graphic pictures, and I do use them. I use them on a CD I hand out called “Truth Unmasked” and I have shown “Silent Scream” and others, there is no question that pro-aborts need to see these images, no question. My only concern is young children seeing them. Yes, children probably did see Christ crucified, but I don’t see that as an argument for careless use of graphic abortion pictures. CAREFUL use, as has been described by some on this thread, where warning signs are given ahead, I think is needed. I disagree with your assertion that b/c you think children would not be scarred for life by the images that it is ok to have them exposed.

IMO pro-lifers can both show these images to those who need to see them, while still being careful to warn parents of young children so that their children do not have their innocence killed too soon.

If some groups can do it, all groups can do it- warning signs, that is all I ask, I know my children best, and YES they would be traumatized, which is why I have worked so carefully not to bring images into my home that would harm their sweet, innocent little minds.

Patty
 
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Tom444:
Yesterday, some friends and I drove past a pro-life protest on Forbes Avenue by Magee-Womens Hospital in Pittsburgh. Normally, I agree with such protests, but in this case, most of the protesters were holding huge (3 to 4 feet high) full-color photographs of aborted fetuses. While I can appreciate their motive of wanting to show the reality of abortion, I’m not sure whether this is really an appropriate way to do so. They weren’t even on the sidewalks outside the hospital (the building is actually on a side street), but right on one of the busiest roads in the city on a Sunday afternoon. My biggest reservation about this is that families with young children will also see these extremely graphic pictures. Overall, I’m not sure whether or not this is an appropriate means of protest. What does everybody else think?
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I voted yes, I think it is comepletely appropriate! However, I wouldn’t use the word fetuse. They are children, and we should de-humanize them with that ugly world (IMHO).

God bless you!
 
Priests For Life has an extensive library of articles advocating the use of images, including a very interesting theology justification for the use of graphic images.

priestsforlife.org/articles/graphicimages.html

I haven’t read them all, but the ones I have read are excellent and bring up a lot of points that I hadn’t considered before and haven’t been brought up on this thread.

Elizabeth
 
NEW PAGE ANSWERS ANY OBJECTIONS TO LEAGUES TRUTH TOURS!!!

http://www.prolifeaction.org/truth/truth07.jpg Whenever we hit the streets with our large, graphic abortion signs, we can expect to hear some complaints from passers-by. The most common by far is the objection that children might see our pictures and become upset.

We take these concerns seriously, and respond to them as best we can through our Face the Truth fliers, e-mail responses and face-to-face conversations. Now we have gathered our best responses together in a new page in the Face the Truth section of this site, “Answering Common Objections”.

The following common questions are covered:
See also the new Face the Truth page, “About Our Signs”, with descriptions and commentary on each of the signs we use during our Truth Tours.

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PLAL said:
NEW PAGE ANSWERS ANY OBJECTIONS TO LEAGUES TRUTH TOURS!!!

http://www.prolifeaction.org/truth/truth07.jpg Whenever we hit the streets with our large, graphic abortion signs, we can expect to hear some complaints from passers-by. The most common by far is the objection that children might see our pictures and become upset.

We take these concerns seriously, and respond to them as best we can through our Face the Truth fliers, e-mail responses and face-to-face conversations. Now we have gathered our best responses together in a new page in the Face the Truth section of this site, “Answering Common Objections”.

The following common questions are covered:
See also the new Face the Truth page, “About Our Signs”, with descriptions and commentary on each of the signs we use during our Truth Tours.

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Good find, PLAL. Hopefully, this will help a few of the sqeamish to see how the signs help and to see how most of the “Objections” are just attempts to avoid offending dedicated pro-Abortionists who have NO qualms about slaughtering 4,400 pre-born babies/day or those “moderates” who don’t want to think about about it.

Hopefully this will help remind those in the Pro-Life Movement who are squeemish about using graphic signs that Abortion kills babies and that sometimes the best way to get the message across is to “get the message across”.

Blessed are they who act to save God’s Little Ones, Michael
 
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Tom444:
Yesterday, some friends and I drove past a pro-life protest on Forbes Avenue by Magee-Womens Hospital in Pittsburgh. Normally, I agree with such protests, but in this case, most of the protesters were holding huge (3 to 4 feet high) full-color photographs of aborted fetuses. While I can appreciate their motive of wanting to show the reality of abortion, I’m not sure whether this is really an appropriate way to do so. They weren’t even on the sidewalks outside the hospital (the building is actually on a side street), but right on one of the busiest roads in the city on a Sunday afternoon. My biggest reservation about this is that families with young children will also see these extremely graphic pictures. Overall, I’m not sure whether or not this is an appropriate means of protest. What does everybody else think?
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Someone else may have already said this. I have not read the whole thread. My feeling is this: The child in the womb has no voice. They cannot speak for themselves. These images speak louder then words. It gives the voiceless preborn a “voice” in their own defense.

I was around ten years old when my mother showed me the images of aborted babies thrown away in a trash can. I was not hurt at all by being exposed to this. If anything, it was a lesson in compassion.
 
I never realized how horrendous abortion is until I saw a photo of an aborted baby in a lay Catholic newspaper. Sometimes, it’s the only way to show people how horrendous abortion really is. If people are really pro-abortion, then they should not repress anyone from showing these kinds of pictures. After all, why would any pro-abortion person refuse to see what they support? 😦
 
Does anyone realize that we Are At War here!. War against those who brush off an abortion like it’s an appendix operation!
If I could help carry a billboard sized protrail of the Truth, I would!

We are at War with those who Are Pro-DEATH. Seeing the Truth, is to hurt, but it’s a form of Tough Love. This country shrugs off watching violent, dismembering of people in movies, video games, but those Are Fiction. When it comes to Real Lilfe, then people’s shrugs becomes squirmishes.

I’m with you Lisa4Catholics! If it takes something like THIS to convict the mind and the heart to do what is correct, then I’m all for it!

Jesus Christ’s teachings were hard to swallow especially when his own disciples Walked Away from the testimony of the Eucharist (John 6:66). The same thing, to a point, applies. THIS IS THEIR BODIES which are torn and multilated by You. Do this to the image me ME?
 
I think that the graphic images are a necessary part of the pro-life campaign. I have been in several of these demonstrations and we always meet people who are oblivious to what an abortion looks like. The posters on this forum’s main obgection seems to be the effect they have on children. I, in all honesty, have never seen a child get upset by these images. I have seen children who are very, very interested or children who simply do not see them. I have however seen parents freak out, which I suspect is more upsetting to the child than the graphic image. I just as often see parents who welcome the opportunity to discuss the issue with their child. Some people walk along with their kids and simply ignore us altogether.

If there are in fact a very small number of children who do truly get traumetized by the photos then that is sad. However these images are nowhere to be found on TV news, in the papers or in school textbooks - basically the child will NEVER know the truth unless his parents decide to show it to him. Because of this the Truth Tours are sadly necessary.
I find it very telling that the organization that organizessome oth the major Truth Tours , Pro Life Action League, is one that was so strongly attacked by the pro-abort forces.
 
GUEST OPINION: Signs

Tuesday, August 23, 2005
  • Dan Gura
illinoisleader.com/content/img/f27913/SZ200_chooselifebumper.JPGJim Finnegan, president of Choose Life Illinois, Inc. (Choose Life Illinois) is spearheading the effort to fill Illinois’ roads with tens of thousands of powerful signs–CHOOSE LIFE specialty license plates.OPINION - We see signs everywhere we drive–fast food joints, gas stations, banks, speed limits. Regulatory signs, informational signs: do this, don’t do that, can’t you read the sign?

But when was the last time you saw a sign from God?

A divine sign doesn’t have to be something as dramatic as an Old Testament smiting or the Star of Bethlehem. It can be as subtle as a bumper sticker or it can weigh 8,000 pounds.

Recently, LifeNews.com carried the story of a 17-year old girl who was pregnant and “really thinking about abortion” because she was scared. While on her way to school she walked past a pro-lifer’s car and “happened to look over” and saw their bumper sticker, “Abortion Stops A Beating Heart.”

She left a handwritten note on the windshield telling how this humble sign affected her, “My heart dropped,” she said. “I believe God was talking to me, through that sticker, and I also believe I will never think about it again. I’m going to keep my baby, and I’m not that scared anymore.”

have heard many similar stories from the prayer warriors who witness for life in front of abortion mills. One told of a young Hispanic woman who had made the “choice” to end the life of the child growing in her womb. As she was driving down Cicero Avenue she prayed to God to send a sign if she shouldn’t keep her appointment with the abortionist.

MORE illinoisleader.com/opinion/opinionview.asp?c=27913
 
I still believe the signs are nessary, and the small signs are too. Either 20’ tall or 4" tall, it all helps. Thank you to all the people that read this and are trying your best to stop the murders. I am still working to be whole again so I can do the best job I can to help save as many babies and mothers from making a terrible mistake. In Jesus name.
 
Dawn, as some have already told you, yes, you could!! Also, visit this site, its at
www.rachelsvineyard.org
As for the pictures, I say, show them!!! They don’t go route’s where children normally are, however, if a child does see them, it is a great opportunity to teach them about the evil of abortion. Children don’t need to be “sheltered”, they need to be educated.
As far as saying that its up to the parent, well most would never say anything to their child one way or the other about abortion. How is a child suppose to learn if no one says anything about it?
another great site is
www.priestsforlife.org
For those who say that it will harm them for life, I say phooey, what is harming them for life is ignorance. What is harming some of the babies for life, is that they never have one outside of the womb. Abortion is the worse form of child abuse there is!!
 
I believe many people ought to read Norma McCorvey’s book “Won by Love”… she’s the Jane Roe of Roe v Wade. You want to see lies and deceit?? That has it all…

I personally think that graphic posters are acceptable. You can’t shield your child from everything and there is a way to explain it in a manner that a child can grasp. I fully believe they see worse on TV during either news or just in general. Look at where Sesame Street has gone. How about those pictures on People magazine and others that have women scantily clad and the magazine is in the magazine rack right there by the candy? What about the couples snuggling and hanging all over each other, wearing hardly anything, and not married on those same magazines? People get too politically correct with the truth. Why do we have to be nice to others views from fear of hurting their feelings when it’s obvious they aren’t even remotely close to knowing the truth? And I’m sickened that pregnancy is a choice. :mad: That choice should have been made before engaging in sex. Two things come from getting pregnant… a baby that brings joy (and yes, growing pains)… or an abortion… that brings NOTHING but a lifetime of heartache, pain, suffering. And that’s a proven fact. Not just a pro-lifers opinion. :banghead:

I’m sorry to sound so strongly, but I’ve lived the lies, not once but twice. :crying: I was strong-armed into having my first abortion and then lead like a sick dog to have the second. I spiraled downward for 10 years in self destructive behavior. I knew what I did was wrong but I didn’t have the courage to stand by myself. Everyone around me fed me the liberal lie of “it’ll be better this way”. I was so consumed by shame from the first one, I actually felt like a hypocrite if I was to say no to my boyfriend for the second one. Instead of standing up for what I believed… By the grace of God and a Rachels’ Vineyard retreat… I have hope back. :amen:

So no… I don’t think it’s too graphic for children to see… why make excuses to not allow your children to see the truth but yet allow them to be subjected to the sex and other immorality going on in today’s society? I am not trying to tell people how to raise their children, but I find it hypocritical to say that it’s too graphic to show what abortion really is but yet allow sex and other perverse behaviors to be prevailent in a childs’ life.

God bless ya’ll!!!
Theresa
 
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