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that is correct, Luther accepted the reproof of the church, the church being the congregation of believers! See, it was not his sole authority. It is extremely disingenuous to claim that Luther acted on his own, and only his own, authority and at the same time point out that he accepted the reproof from his congregation of believers.
Sure he acted on his own, thats why they threw him out of the Church. If he obeyed he would have still been in the Church. IF Luther did not act on his own authority where did his authority come from?
 
Is the doorway to your house, in fact, a part of your house? Do your enter your house through this doorway which is, in fact, a part of your house? So, do you not enter your house through your house? Look at that, and your house isn’t even omnipotent!
Why could you not just answer the question. It was quite simple. Do you agree that Jesus Christ is God or don’t you? Yes or No would be fine.
 
Yes it is. You cannot eat meat on Friday during lent. And you cannot eat meat on Good Friday also.
Yeah, I know that but it used to be required to fast from meat every Friday of the year and it no longer is. Also, Good Friday is one of the days of fasting during lent when you’re only supposed to eat one normal meal and two small meals. Are you really so dead set in your ideas that no Protestants know anything about Catholicism that when one of them is actually supporting what you’re saying you try to convince them they are wrong?
 
No the word protestant came from the latin word protestatio

Pro- fort publicly
testari mean assert

From that word came protestant. A person who follows protestanism form of Christianity.

ANd we do agree on one thing Luther was indeed thrown out of the CC.
Very good and which word would you say, by looking up your dictionary definitions, is closer to the meaning publicly proclaim: protest or proclaim?
 
Why could you not just answer the question. It was quite simple. Do you agree that Jesus Christ is God or don’t you? Yes or No would be fine.
The question, as I read it, was, if you believe that Jesus is God, then how can someone come to God through God? I explained how I believe that someone can come to God through God in much the same way that someone enters a house through the doorway which is, in fact, part of the house they are entering. This clearly implies, to any rational reader with even a high school command of the English language, that I believe Jesus is God otherwise I would have addressed that portion of your question which is actually the fallacy of composite questions.
 
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Sure he acted on his own, thats why they threw him out of the Church. If he obeyed he would have still been in the Church. IF Luther did not act on his own authority where did his authority come from?
God and his congregation of believers. It is public knowledge that Luther wanted to do away with many books of the Bible, yet every Bible translated by him includes all the books. If Luther were acting on his own, and only his own, authority then why do his Bibles contain books he did not think should be there? Remember, he was acting on his own and only his own authority so you need to answer the question without alluding to him accepting reproof from anyone accept himself.
 
Very good and which word would you say, by looking up your dictionary definitions, is closer to the meaning publicly proclaim: protest or proclaim?
Drawmack why are you doing this. He publicly protested the Catholic Church. Please read up the history of Protestant. Luther is who started the Protestant Church because he did nothing but protest the teachings of the CC.

If Luther Proclaimed the teachings of the CC there would be no reason to leave it.

Please use a little common sense here.

Think about it if Luther proclaimed the teachings of the CC were true why would he have left. THere would have been no split.
 
Look at it this way.

I came proclaim the good news. ( that means to agree and tell all)

I came to protest the good new (that means to disagree and tell everyone you disagree)
 
Drawmack why are you doing this. He publicly protested the Catholic Church. Please read up the history of Protestant. Luther is who started the Protestant Church because he did nothing but protest the teachings of the CC.

If Luther Proclaimed the teachings of the CC there would be no reason to leave it.

Please use a little common sense here.

Think about it if Luther proclaimed the teachings of the CC were true why would he have left. THere would have been no split.
If you trace back the conversation my assertion stems from the claim that Mormons are Protestants because they protest the Catholic Church. Since the term Protestant does not mean to protest but rather to publicly proclaim that is fallacious logic. I never said that Luther was proclaiming the teachings of the Catholic Church. You are insisting on making logical leaps away from what I said or what my point was. My only point is that Mormons are not Protestant.
 
God and his congregation of believers. It is public knowledge that Luther wanted to do away with many books of the Bible, yet every Bible translated by him includes all the books. If Luther were acting on his own, and only his own, authority then why do his Bibles contain books he did not think should be there? Remember, he was acting on his own and only his own authority so you need to answer the question without alluding to him accepting reproof from anyone accept himself.
I told you he wanted to, but to many people would not accept it, so it moved them to make them appear less important.

Now if you say Luther was not acting on his own authority, whos authority would you say he was working on. THe CC has one authority and that is GOD. God indeed gave his authority to them to do certain things but it is still by the Power of the Holy SPirit that works throught them that it can come from God.

Are you saying that the Holy SPirit told luther to Protest the Church. If so why would God do that? God told us he is the CC. He told us in Matt I am with you always. He told us he was like the wise man who build his house on Rock. ANd then he built his Church on Peter which translates to Rock.
 
Look at it this way.

I came proclaim the good news. ( that means to agree and tell all)

I came to protest the good new (that means to disagree and tell everyone you disagree)
Rinnie,

Look at it this way, the root of the word Protestant is to publicly proclaim and not protest. Therefore to claim that anyone who protests that Catholic Church is Protestant is simply not true. I am very sorry that you lack the ability to admit you could be mistaken about anything.
 
The question, as I read it, was, if you believe that Jesus is God, then how can someone come to God through God? I explained how I believe that someone can come to God through God in much the same way that someone enters a house through the doorway which is, in fact, part of the house they are entering. This clearly implies, to any rational reader with even a high school command of the English language, that I believe Jesus is God otherwise I would have addressed that portion of your question which is actually the fallacy of composite questions.
Yes or no would have been a more clear answer.🤷
 
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Rinnie,

Look at it this way, the root of the word Protestant is to publicly proclaim and not protest. Th[SIGN]erefore to claim that anyone who protests that Catholic Church is Protestant [/SIGN]is simply not true. I am very sorry that you lack the ability to admit you could be mistaken about anything.
IT is true. Anyone who protests the teaching of the CC is Protestant.
 
Yeah, I know that but it used to be required to fast from meat every Friday of the year and it no longer is. Also, Good Friday is one of the days of fasting during lent when you’re only supposed to eat one normal meal and two small meals. Are you really so dead set in your ideas that no Protestants know anything about Catholicism that when one of them is actually supporting what you’re saying you try to convince them they are wrong?
Where did I ever disagree with you. I just wanted to point out the difference between a discipline and teaching of the Church. Did I ever say Protestatns do not know anything about our faith? If so please show me.
 
I told you he wanted to, but to many people would not accept it, so it moved them to make them appear less important.
So you admit that he was not acting on his own authority. If he were acting solely on his own authority then he would not have accepted the reproof of those others mentioned above! You tell me to use a little common sense, you should take your own advice.
Now if you say Luther was not acting on his own authority, whos authority would you say he was working on.
He was working with the authority of the church – defining church as the congregation of believers. The last time I said this you responded as if I were talking about the Catholic Church, so let’s see if I can make this clear enough for you to get it. IN THIS STATEMENT CHURCH DOES NOT MEAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
THe CC has one authority and that is GOD. God indeed gave his authority to them to do certain things but it is still by the Power of the Holy SPirit that works throught them that it can come from God.
That’s what you believe, I disagree.
Are you saying that the Holy SPirit told luther to Protest the Church. If so why would God do that?
My best guess would be that the Catholic Church had strayed from the Truth, but for a definitive answer you’ll have to ask God.
God told us he is the CC.
No where in the Bible does it say that God is the Catholic Church. Actually, even making this claim borders on blasphemy. You are saying God is the Catholic Church. That is the same is saying God is the Father, Son, Spirit, and Catholic Church. I’m sorry but I cannot accept that any Church is God.
He told us in Matt I am with you always. He told us he was like the wise man who build his house on Rock. ANd then he built his Church on Peter which translates to Rock.
I never denied that one can both be Catholic and come to Christ. In order for your first two statements to really have anything to do with what I said, I would need to deny that. I do not agree with your last statement. I believe that the Rock which Jesus built his Church on is Jesus. Jesus did not build his Church on the theology or a man he built it on his own theology.
 
Where did I ever disagree with you. I just wanted to point out the difference between a discipline and teaching of the Church. Did I ever say Protestatns do not know anything about our faith? If so please show me.
You said that meat is still a required object of fasting by appealing to the disciplines of Lent when every one knows the original objector and myself were talking about Fridays in general and not Fridays during a specific 40 day period of the year which is set aside to be the spiritual tithing of Catholics according to the original institution by Pope Gregory.
 
Rinnie,

Look at it this way, the root of the word Protestant is to publicly proclaim and not protest. Therefore to claim that anyone who protests that Catholic Church is Protestant is simply not true. I am very sorry that you lack the ability to admit you could be mistaken about anything.
Please look up the word Protestant. It is literally one who protests. It is a movement that originated by a Roman Catholic Priest Martin Luther against the Catholic Church.

Please look it up.
 
You said that meat is still a required object of fasting by appealing to the disciplines of Lent when every one knows the original objector and myself were talking about Fridays in general and not Fridays during a specific 40 day period of the year which is set aside to be the spiritual tithing of Catholics according to the original institution by Pope Gregory.
Drawback, Please understand what I am Saying OKAY. A discipline can be CHANGED by the POPE. He can say tommorow you can eat meat on Friday during lent. If he wants.

A teaching cannot be changed. Thats what this whole thing is about. The church was accused, saying it can say one thing and then turn it around and say another. That is why I was denfending my CHurch saying there is a difference between a teaching and discipline. Do you understand now?
 
Then Muslims are Protestant. Then Buddhists are Protestant. See, this just doesn’t make any sense!
Why not. Do Muslim’s accept Jesus Christ as I AM. Or do they deny Jesus?

Do Buddhists accept Jesus CHrist as God, or do they deny that teaching?

Are they one in all of the teachings of the CC or do they protest (disagree with some of the teachings)?

To be Catholic we must agree with all of the teachings of the faith. ALL of em.
 
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