Anti-Islam Ads Remixed in San Francisco and New York

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Ummm no… i’d say the tragedy of 3000 ppl dying IS the real tragedy of 911. :bigyikes:

And religious groups that want to annilate or wipe Israel off the map are definetly evil and should not be tolerated.
EmperorNapoleon said:
No, I mean referring to all Arabs as “savages.” But don’t let facts get in the way of paranoid delusions of “evil” Arabs hiding in every bush and lurking around every corner. BOO! :bigyikes: You know, the real tragedy of September 11, 2001 isn’t that 3,000 people died; its that the event has become a rallying point for racists and Islamophobes to drum up support for Ayn Rand’s work and create a culture of hatred and bigotry in this country against Arabs and Muslims. This kind of stuff was considered unacceptable in the mainstream before then but I’m not so sure it is now and I was surprised to find support for it here.
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Jeffrey said:
Ummm no… i’d say the tragedy of 3000 ppl dying IS the real tragedy of 911. :bigyikes:

And religious groups that want to annilate or wipe Israel off the map are definetly evil and should not be tolerated.
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You might want to remember that something like 90 MUSLIMS died in 9/11, including two unborn children. Many were US citizens with families and lives like anyone else.

Also, not all Muslims are of the opinion that Israel should be destroyed. In fact, the third holiest site in Islam, the Al-Aqsa Mosque, is in Jerusalem.
 
Jeffrey said:
Ummm no… i’d say the tragedy of 3000 ppl dying IS the real tragedy of 911. :bigyikes:
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7,000 people die in this country every day. We are not a nation of bodies; we’re a nation of ideas and when we allow such events to twist and change those ideas into something so intrinsically anti-American as overt racism and bigotry towards Arabs then we just confirm everything the extremists teach about us. We lose. We lost.
 
OU812 said:
Way to downplay 3000 lives lost through a terrorist attack. 👍
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Sad, yes, but not an excuse to erase 150 years of progress in race and ethnic relations or the ideals that this country is founded on. If people want to support calling Arabs “savages” they are welcome to do so but they shouldn’t complain when its used as a recruiting tool by extremists to portray America as a land hostile to Arabs and they should own up to the fact that it aides the enemy.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
Sad, yes, but not an excuse to erase 150 years of progress in race and ethnic relations or the ideals that this country is founded on.
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The ideals of this country are simple: you’ve got something to say and you’ve got the money, we’ll give you a podium.
 
I only managed to read a little of that address, but what he says is truly beautiful.👍
 
Clearly, my understanding of the Catholic faith is not where it should be. In light of this, I would like to retract my previous posts and apologize for any offense that I might have caused…

Thank you for correcting me.
 
Kouyate42 said:
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Some people want to learn what the term jihad REALLY means according to the real and peaceful teachings of Islam.

Actual holy war is a LESSER form of jihad. The Prophet Muhammad (saw) said ipon returning from battle ‘we have returned from the lesser jihad of fighting against the enemy to the greater jihad of fighting against our own soul’. Striving to do the will of Allah against the lures of our worldly desires is the HIGHER jihad.
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I don’t think the two types of Jihad are considered mutually exclusive. If they where, you would have to ignore over 1/2 of Islamic history. Certainly the rebels in Syria and most of the Arab states over the last year and 1/2 and the Taliban and al-Qaeda, and the Salifasts don’t think they are mutually exclusive. Until Islam gets rid of the concept of Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb there will be militant Jihad (holy war.) The concept of the two worlds, if I understand correctly doesn’t come from anything that Muhammad said.
 
This is the exact reason why people are turning away from God. Everyone is starting to view God as a bad God. God was seen as a good at one point. What happened. White washing. They always refer to “God” as a bad god in Western Civilization. When people refer to Allah - it is the good God. There is plenty of reference of this white washing going on. In my point the people who are claiming that Christians worship the same God as muslims do is turning people away from God period.
 
I have plenty of proof up here in Canada, in our schools, in our police force, and even in our Government’s. I am sad to say it is happening in our church as well. Shame Shame Shame. There are people up here in Canada esp in the Quebec election that is forcing Secularism - I am starting to agree with it because now it’s becoming ridiculous and dangerous about God/Allah. I see exactly now why people want to ban religion. I know my God is a good God - that’s all I need to know and I don’t need Islam trying to convert my “God” to Allah" to prove themselves that ALLah is good and God is bad.
 
We had this discussion before, and I spreading the word about this white washing on sites such as this to let them be aware of what’s going on our gov’t agencies. I am not here to argue, to preach what is going on.
 
gilliam said:
I don’t think the two types of Jihad are considered mutually exclusive. If they where, you would have to ignore over 1/2 of Islamic history.
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Thats like saying that in order for Christitanity to be considered a religion of peace and moral uprightness you would have to ignore most of its history. The manner in which people behave doesn’t change the written word. Unfortunately there’s a tendency in the media to magnify the fringe extremist elements and ignore everyone else.
 
Now you can go ahead and shut me up and close down the thread.
 
ON EWTN - They had a priest, a rabbi, and a muslim preacher. The muslim preacher said we all believe in the same God. The rabbi and the Priest said they did not. They had to correct him.
 
Secularism is prevailing. That’s all the fact that I need. If you can’t see that then I don’t know what will. The platform is addressing this issue too. I say so be it as long as I can preserve the God that we once knew.
 
No religion should be treated as equal to Catholicism, because we have the truth.
The Truth should not have to share space with a lie, regardless of whether it is talmudism, mohammedenism, Atheism or Buddhism.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
Thats like saying that in order for Christitanity to be considered a religion of peace and moral uprightness you would have to ignore most of its history. The manner in which people behave doesn’t change the written word. Unfortunately there’s a tendency in the media to magnify the fringe extremist elements and ignore everyone else.
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remind me again how Christianity spread on this earth compared to how Islam spread on this earth.

Compare the first 300 years of each religion and then get back to me.
 
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