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Not_Sure said:
remind me again how Christianity spread on this earth compared to how Islam spread on this earth.

Compare the first 300 years of each religion and then get back to me.
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I would only add that in every Christian nation, Islam is tolerated; the reverse is not true.
 
Not_Sure said:
remind me again how Christianity spread on this earth compared to how Islam spread on this earth. Compare the first 300 years of each religion and then get back to me.
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I seem to recall the vast majority of conversions being accomplished via threat of execution. Christianity was an extraordinarily violent religion for most of its history. The point being that such violence is not consistent with the teachings of either Christianity or Islam.
 
Not_Sure said:
No religion should be treated as equal to Catholicism, because we have the truth.
The Truth should not have to share space with a lie, regardless of whether it is talmudism, mohammedenism, Atheism or Buddhism.
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I resent having Islam referred to as ‘Mohammadenism’. That’s like calling Catholicism ‘Maryist Christianity’ or something similar and makes the crucial mistake of assuming that Muslims worship Muhammad, which is simply untrue. Please use some courtesy and politeness when referring to Islam, regardless of what you think of its truth.

And the fact remains that even if any one religion on this earth WAS the Truth of God (as I believe Islam is), many people will choose to believe falsehoods even where evidence is presented to them of their error. This is an act of freewill and you should not criticize any one for it, but rather try and correct that error.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
I seem to recall the vast majority of conversions being accomplished via threat of execution. Christianity was an extraordinarily violent religion for most of its history. The point being that such violence is not consistent with the teachings of either Christianity or Islam.
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That is indeed the case in Islam. It is absolutely not the case in Christianity. The exceptions are noteworthy because of their rarity.
 
Muslims worship muhammeds imagination, that being “allah” and are used by Satan as tools in his game, its the truth and easily backed up, give up islam before it takes you to a place you don’t want to be when you die…

Islam was an invention of muhammed ( the errors of the Quran, stars made to shoot down djinn? bones before flesh? or as in the hadith, bukhari to be exact, sun setting beneath allahs throne? the list goes on and on, not to mention the copying of the Pseudo Gospel of Matthew, chap. 20, which is replicated in Surah 19, regarding mary giving birth beneath a palm tree and it giving her water and fruit, and the date on the pseudo gospel of Matthew? typically 610-625… hmm, kind of ironic it winds up in the quran, eh?)

(its wikipedia, guys, but its all sourced and can be investigated and backed up )

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Pseudo-Matthew

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_and_the_Quran#Mary_and_the_miracle_of_the_Palm_Tree
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
That is indeed the case in Islam. It is absolutely not the case in Christianity. The exceptions are noteworthy because of their rarity.
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Rarity? Why are you cutting out well over 1,000 years of Christian history? The conversion of pagan Rome? The barbarians? The massacres of the Spanish and Roman Inquisitions? Papal orders of assassination? etc. etc. It is rare today but certainly was not for the vast majority of the history of Christianity.
 
The conversion of Pagan Rome involved the shedding of our blood (not that of the Pagans), way to blame the victims. 300 years of us being thrown to the lions and set on fire.
The crimes of the Spanish inquisitions were highly exaggerated, as they were part of an exceeding black legend about Spain. (Also the Spanish inquisition did not involve the conversion of anyone. Everyone tried by the Spanish Inquisition was a baptized Catholic). Papal orders of assassination would be justified under the doctrine of tyrannicide, and were also not used for conversion.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
Rarity? Why are you cutting out well over 1,000 years of Christian history? The conversion of pagan Rome? The barbarians? The massacres of the Spanish and Roman Inquisitions? Papal orders of assassination? etc. etc. It is rare today but certainly was not for the vast majority of the history of Christianity.
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The Spanish Inquisition, will deplorable, killed a few hundred. Atheist Russia beat that number by 10’s of millions.

I must plead ignorance of a “Roman” Inquistion. Papal orders? May I have a credible source for that, please?
 
There was a Roman Inquisition (which was pretty much just a continuation of the Spanish Inquisition). Just as there was the Medieval Inquisition meant to prevent the spread of the suicidal Cathars (Albigensians).
 
Not_Sure said:
There was a Roman Inquisition (which was pretty much just a continuation of the Spanish Inquisition). Just as there was the Medieval Inquisition meant to prevent the spread of the suicidal Cathars (Albigensians).
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Thank you. 🙂
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
The Spanish Inquisition, will deplorable, killed a few hundred. Atheist Russia beat that number by 10’s of millions.
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You know, going into Atheism doesn’t really help the case neither does whitewashing the conversion of Europe and the methods of maintaining Christian dominance in the region.
Luigi_Daniele said:
I must plead ignorance of a “Roman” Inquistion.
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The Roman Inquisition took place during the 16th century. One of its most famous victims was Giordano Bruno. He was burned at the stake for his theory of an infinite universe aka “heresy.”
Luigi_Daniele said:
Papal orders? May I have a credible source for that, please?
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De Causa Formosiana documents that Pope Sergius III ordered two of his predecessors to be murdered. Sixtus IV was also directly involved in the plot to murder Lorenzo and Giuliano Medici in 1478. Sixtus V was directly involved in a plot to murder Queen Elizabeth in 1586 (Babington plot?). etc etc. In any case, we’re wandering from the topic.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
De Causa Formosiana documents that Pope Sergius III ordered two of his predecessors to be murdered. Sixtus IV was also directly involved in the plot to murder Lorenzo and Giuliano Medici in 1478. Sixtus V was directly involved in a plot to murder Queen Elizabeth in 1586 (Babington plot?). etc etc. In any case, we’re wandering from the topic.
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Yes you are. By the way, don’t confuse warring principalities that controlled the Papacy with theocracy, it really wasn’t.
 
gilliam said:
Yes you are. By the way, don’t confuse warring principalities that controlled the Papacy with theocracy, it really wasn’t.
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The office of the Pope and many other positions in the Church were bought, sold, and murdered for in most of Catholic history. The methods of acquiring the position don’t change what the position is or that it was theocracy. It also doesn’t change the true teachings of Christianity, which these actions were in direct violation of, just as the extremist elements in Islam do not change the true teachings of Islam.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
The office of the Pope and many other positions in the Church were bought, sold, and murdered for in most of Catholic history. The methods of acquiring the position don’t change what the position is or that it was theocracy.
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This assertion is, with all due respect, a crock.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
The methods of acquiring the position don’t change what the position is or that it was theocracy. It also doesn’t change the true teachings of Christianity, which these actions were in direct violation of, just as the extremist elements in Islam do not change the true teachings of Islam.
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Maybe, maybe not. Islam is not Christianity, and to pretend it is would be a great mistake. If you are interested in learning more about the history of Islam, may I suggest the following:

Destiny Disrupted: A History of the World through Islamic Eyes
amazon.com/Destiny-Disrupted-History-through-Islamic/dp/1586486063
 
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