Anti-Mornonism in the email from Catholic Answers!

[why_me]

The LDS church doesn’t have to send out emails. Their virulent anti-Catholicism is embedded in their doctrines. The Catholic Church is “apostate” and our creeds (the Apostle’s Creed and the Nicene Creed, I assume) are an “abomination.”

The mormon church says the same thing as the catholic church. For the catholic church, other churches have certain truths but not the whole truth. The Mormon church says the same thing. I am afraid that both mormons and catholics view other faiths the same way: having truth but not the whole truth.

However, the mormonapologetic website does not send out virulent anticatholic literature like Catholic Answers does. And there is the difference.

 

[why_me]

That is just rude! What if the LDS Church had done the same thing…there would be outrage. LDS and Catholic’s share a common bond. We are attacked by the same Protestant church. At least we have that in common.

Pa Pa

Yes that is right. There would be outrage here. My gosh, the former mormon now catholics would be in seventh heaven with such a happening. I do believe that they would be dancing well into the night in their living room celebrating such an email by the mormonapologetic site. But none will come because the lds aren’t that way.

 

[lukewarm]

I agree it is a bit anti-mormon, CA does this every now and again to get people up in arms and feel that they have to “act” before it’s too late and all is lost. The site has to run somehow and this is a good fund raising tactic.

However I don’t agree with it, people are free to do whatever they want, no one is being “duped” they are believing what they want to believe and freely choosing. If someone is so eager to join another faith like Mormonism which (sorry if this offends anyone but it is my opinion) after all my research seems completely unbelievable then they were lost to begin with. They stopped buying what the Catholic Church was selling a very long time ago if they ever did. Chances are they’re cultural Catholics who know very little about their faith and have no inclination to learn it.

So Mormonism comes along, part mysticism, part secret society, part Christianity and it seems like a good thing to get into and the people are nice.

If God is really in control of this Church we all need to stop worrying so much about things like this. Why the focus on numbers so much?

I could care less if America was dominated by Mormons, it beats the Muslims at least we don’t have to live under Sharia law like England has already consented to in their hearts calling it "innevitable:…

 

[Paul_G]

It is true, anti-Catholicism is institutionalized and an integral part of mormonism. Without it, there would be no need for the mormon religion at all.

It is quite true that we believe that the creeds are the creation of man which where instituted more for the unification of Constantine’s empire than of Christendom. The creeds can not be supported by scripture and portrays quite a different relationship between the Father and the Son than Jesus Himself spoke of in His own words recorded in the Gospels. If you can show me, from scripture, where I have gone wrong in my thinking, would you kindly show it to me.

Paul

 

[RebeccaJ]

No, it isn’t. And of course, you are misleading the catholics on this board, in my humble opinion.

I have never heard a mormon make an anticatholic remark. Now I do remember that when Bruce R. McConkie’s book came out, there were some misunderstandings but that was soon corrected.

At the last sunday school when the book of mormon was discussed and the abominable church, not one person mentioned the catholic church as that church. Sorry, Rebecca, you are wrong on this one.

Moroni 8:

14 Behold I say unto you, that he that supposeth that little children need baptism is in the gall of bitterness and in the bonds of iniquity; for he hath neither faith, hope, nor charity; wherefore, should he be cut off while in the thought, he must go down to hell.

Joseph Smith History 1:

19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

 

[zerinus]

I would like to see the complete text of both emails. Perhaps Nan will be kind enough to post the complete text for us.

zerinus

Okay, I found what appears to be the complete text of the second email, courtesy of this thread. Here is the complete text:

Confronting the New Mormon Threat [Part II]

Why Catholics are easy targets for Mormon evangelists—and what we can do to keep Catholics Catholic.

Click here to donate

The Mormon church has been in the news a lot recently. The head of the church, styled its “prophet,” recently died. Many dignitaries attended his funeral, including a major political candidate whose Mormonism has been discussed a lot these last few months.

Mormon evangelists have been taking advantage of their church being in the headlines. They have been doing their best to invite Americans to take a closer look at their religion.

Many people have been doing just that—especially Catholics. In fact, in recent years the majority of converts to Mormonism have been Catholics.

It makes sense, when you think about it.

Catholics are targeted by Mormons because many Catholics can be swayed easily by Mormon arguments. That’s because many Catholics don’t know their own faith.

In a way, you can’t blame the Mormons. Targeting Catholics has worked for them, so why shouldn’t they keep their evangelizing focus on Catholics?

What Catholics Don’t Know Can Hurt Them

Think the Mormons are just a group of nice folks who uphold family values, clean living, and American patriotism? Think again.

Think the Mormons are just a slightly eccentric offshoot of traditional Protestant Christianity? Think again.

Think Mormons are actually Christian, accepting the core doctrines of Christianity? Think again!

The truth is that Mormonism is far different from what most people think it is.

If asked, most Catholics would not be able to explain what Mormons believe. Nor do they have a clue what is wrong with Mormonism.

Therein lies the danger—especially today, as Mormonism is enjoying a resurgence in popularity and interest, largely because of recent news coverage.

But the news media aren’t providing useful information about Mormonism.

This worries me—because, as I said, the majority of converts to Mormonism are ill-informed Catholics who are highly vulnerable to Mormon proselytizing.

That’s why Catholic Answers is trying to head off a potential disaster among Catholics.

And we’re going to need your help to make this new project successful.

Here’s what it’s all about …

What Mormons Really Believe

There are many problems with the Mormon religion. In fact, the problems are so numerous, we had to write a special report just to explain and refute them all.

It’s this powerful, eye-opening report that we need to get into the hands of as many Catholics as possible—as quickly as possible—before the Mormon juggernaut picks up more speed and takes in tens of thousands of our fellow Catholics.

This report was written by our director of apologetics, Jimmy Akin, who has done a masterful job of clearly explaining Mormon beliefs … making sense of them … and then charitably refuting them, one by one.

Let me give you a glimpse of what you’ll learn when you read this breakthrough report—and you’ll see why it’s “must reading” for every Catholic in America today …

• Do Mormons really believe they can become the “god” of their own planet?

• Why Mormons claim the Catholic Church is a “church of Satan”—teaching a false gospel.

• Why Mormons believe God the Father was once a human—and became the “god” of planet Earth.

• Do Mormons believe there is more than one “God”?

• How the Book of Mormon itself contradicts core Mormon beliefs and practices.

• What Mormons believe about the Eucharist—it’s not what Catholics believe.

• What goes on inside their mysterious, no-visitors-allowed temples.

• Does the Mormon church approve of divorce and abortion? (The answer will disappoint pro-lifers!)

• Who are the leaders of the Mormon church?

• Do Mormons believe black people are “cursed”?

• Is Mormon baptism valid? What Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, said.

• How Mormons try to convert Catholics to Mormonism—successfully.

• How did Joseph Smith translate the “golden plates”—and why did no one else ever get to see them?

• Mormon doctrines have changed—often.

• Did Joseph Smith develop his teaching on polygamy only after betraying his wife?

• Joseph Smith: the “martyr” who died in a gunfight, shooting at people.

• Mormons dropped some of their unpopular teachings in order to clean up their public image and appeal to more Americans.

• Joseph Smith’s background before he started the Mormon church—and how this affect his credibility

• The psychological and emotional elements that attract people to Mormonism.

Continued . . .\

 

[zerinus]

\ . . . Continued

All this—and much more—is covered in Jimmy Akin’s new special report. We will send it to you with our compliments when you help us with our project to distribute it nationwide.

You see, the new Mormon threat is more serious than ever before.

With all the talk in the media about Mormonism, more and more people are curious about Mormonism and are visiting Mormon web sites.

But these web sites are deceptive. They do not explain the true beliefs of Mormonism. They try to convince readers that Mormonism is a Christian faith—in fact, the true Christian faith!

As one Mormon web site put it, “Mormonism is the religion most consistent with biblical Christianity. We do not apologize for our beliefs. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the only true Christian church on the face of the earth.”

The problem is … people fall for it—especially Catholics.

In fact, Mormons count Catholics as their main target.

Over half of the current converts to Mormonism are Catholics.

Mormons target Catholics who don’t know their faith.

Sadly, that’s the majority of our fellow Catholics. They’ve been nearly defenseless against Mormon propaganda.

Until now.

With our new special report on Mormonism, we can “inoculate” Catholics from the half-truths and skewed history presented by Mormon missionaries.

By getting this report into the hands of Catholics all across America, we can bolster the faith of Catholics and keep them from leaving the Church.

But an ambitious project like this requires significant funds from generous supporters like you.

We are dependent on you for financial support.

That’s why I’m hoping you’ll support Catholic Answers’ new project to expose the errors of Mormonism.

We want to give parish priests the materials they need so they can educate their parishioners—and can keep their Catholics Catholic.

We estimate that the cost of this project—to print and distribute this report to thousands of parishes nationwide—will be approximately $140,000.

We simply don’t have that much money right now. In fact, we don’t really have any of it.

And yet, this project is crying out for our attention.

That’s why I’m hoping you’ll be able to send us a special gift of $35 or more to get this project off the ground.

In return for your gift, we’ll send you a set of these special reports to distribute to your friends, family, and Mormon acquaintances.

For $35, we’ll send you 5 copies of our special report.

For $75, we’ll send you 10 copies.

For $150 or more, we’ll send you 15 copies.

This way, you can be directly involved in this project. First, with your donation, by helping us get tens of thousands of copies distributed nationwide, where they’re needed most. And second, by doing your own distribution in your local area.

Click here to make your donation to this very important project.

In case you’re not sure if Mormonism is really as big a threat as I’m saying it is, let me leave you with these statistics about the growth of this novel religion …

Facts about the Mormon Threat

FACT: In 1984, sociologist Rodney Stark predicted that the Mormon church would grow at a rate of 30%–50% per decade for the next several decades, reaching from 70 million to possibly as high as 280 million members by the year 2080. He said it would be “the first new major world religion since Islam.”

Indeed, from 1984 to 2000, the church actually grew at an average rate of 52% per decade, outpacing the upper bound on Stark’s prediction.

FACT: When Mormon missionaries make their first contact with a person in the home of a Mormon friend or relative, a conversion will result 50% of the time.

FACT: Each year, the Mormon church baptizes 300,000 converts. (That’s 800 a day—or another million every three years.) Half are former Catholics.

The time to act is now—or we risk losing many Catholics to the Mormon faith in the decade ahead.

Simply put, we must not allow false teachers to mislead Catholics.
Yet that’s exactly what Mormon theology is doing, even as you
read this letter.

Won’t you please make a special sacrifice and send your gift of $35 … $75 … or perhaps $150 or more today for this important project and all the good works of Catholic Answers?

May God bless you for all you do in defense of the faith!

Sincerely in Christ,

Karl Keating
President

P.S. The Mormon religion is not what is styles itself to be. Even our Protestant brethren agree that Mormonism is non-Christian. And yet, Mormonism is flourishing in America.

Mormons especially target poorly-catechized Catholics. (Worldwide, Catholics make up half the converts to Mormonism.)

Now I would like to read that “report” it mentions. I did not find it on the CA main page.

zerinus

 

[RebeccaJ]

\ . . . Continued

Now I would like to read that “report” it mentions. I did not find it on the CA main page.

zerinus

Make a donation and you’ll get at least 5 copies.

 

[zerinus]

Make a donation and you’ll get at least 5 copies.

Those who get their copies, what do they do with them? Presumably they give them to people like me, right? So you can give me one of your copies!

zerinus

 

[Rbt_Southwell]

That is just rude! What if the LDS Church had done the same thing…there would be outrage. LDS and Catholic’s share a common bond. We are attacked by the same Protestant church. At least we have that in common.

Pa Pa

PaPa;

Let me open up a window for you:
**
Catholics DO NOT have ANYTHING in common with LDS!**

We believe in One, Triune God.
You believe in many gods

We believe Jesus to be God Incarnate (as the Son of God)
You believe Jesus to be a brother of Lucifer

We believe that the Canon as assembled by the Church is it.
You believe the BoM and other writings (including that funny “Book of Abraham”) to supplant the Bible

We don’t interpret “rock” to mean “revelation” as you do.

We do not keep rewriting the Bible to change it to be more mainstream like you do the BoM

We do not believe black people to be under the “curse of Cain” like you do.

Understand this, PaPa, mormons ARE NOT like Catholics

Robert

 

[majick275]

actually the intent appears to be to distribute them to other catholics

 

[Indyann]

actually the intent appears to be to distribute them to other catholics

And the sooner, the better!! I just watched “The Mormons” on PBS.

It boggles my mind that anyone with any semblance of intelligence can believe this myth.

I could sooner believe “Jack and the Beanstalk” than to believe Jackson County, Missouri was the Garden of Eden.

 

[Rbt_Southwell]

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I could sooner believe “Jack and the Beanstalk” than to believe Jackson County, Missouri was the Garden of Eden.

Dang! And I bought over 89 acres there, too !!!

Robert (The Laminate who gets his own world and gets to be a god according to the Profit Zerinus)

 

[Indyann]

Dang! And I bought over 89 acres there, too !!!

Robert (The Laminate who gets his own world and gets to be a god according to the Profit Zerinus)

Well at least you will be one of the first to see the Lord when he comes back.

 

[RebeccaJ]

Yes that is right. There would be outrage here. My gosh, the former mormon now catholics would be in seventh heaven with such a happening. I do believe that they would be dancing well into the night in their living room celebrating such an email by the mormonapologetic site. But none will come because the lds aren’t that way.

Are these imaginings, or prophecies?

 

[why_me]

Are these imaginings, or prophecies?

Fortunately, it is only my imagination working over time. Mormons on the internet are a tad different than catholics on the internet.

 

[why_me]

Moroni 8:

14 Behold I say unto you, that he that supposeth that little children need baptism is in the gall of bitterness and in the bonds of iniquity; for he hath neither faith, hope, nor charity; wherefore, should he be cut off while in the thought, he must go down to hell.

Joseph Smith History 1:

19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

I see no mention of the catholic church. But I do see all churches. Of course, you must understand for mormons there would be no need for a restoration if the creeds were A-okay with god. It does make sense that if god believes the current churches are an abomination, there would be a need for his church to be reestablished.

I see no problem with it at all. In fact, isn’t true that the catholic church more or less feels the same way about other churches. That they have a resemblance of truth but not the complete truth? And I am sure that there are catholics on this board, who feel that aspects of protestantism and mormonism are abominations in the sight of god.

You see, mormons and catholics do have things in common!

 

[Zakuska]

And the sooner, the better!! I just watched “The Mormons” on PBS.

It boggles my mind that anyone with any semblance of intelligence can believe this myth.

I could sooner believe “Jack and the Beanstalk” than to believe Jackson County, Missouri was the Garden of Eden.

I just as soon beleive in flying talking Donkeys.

https://ideotrope.org/pub/media/photos/angela/named/pics_donkey_shrek.jpg



2 Pet. 2: 16
16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb *** speaking with man’s voice forbad the madness of the prophet.

 

[Nan_S]

I see no problem with it at all. In fact, isn’t true that the catholic church more or less feels the same way about other churches. That they have a resemblance of truth but not the complete truth? And I am sure that there are catholics on this board, who feel that aspects of protestantism and mormonism are abominations in the sight of god.

You see, mormons and catholics do have things in common!

Yes, what they have in common is this: the official doctrine of both is that the other is completely apostate.

We can be friends - in facts cultivating relationships is the first step to winning converts - but theologically it is not possible for us to be united on anything more than the most superficial grounds.

 

[why_me]

Yes, what they have in common is this: the official doctrine of both is that the other is completely apostate.

We can be friends - in facts cultivating relationships is the first step to winning converts - but theologically it is not possible for us to be united on anything more than the most superficial grounds.

And the protestant faiths are also apostate according to the catholic church, I believe.

Where do mormons and catholic agree? On how to conduct one’s life morally. Both caution against masturbation, fornication, and adultery. And both stress the body as a temple for the holy spirit to dwell in. There is much in common on how to do life between the catholic faith and the lds faith.