Any news from Birmingham Alabama about next bishop?

[Crumpy]

The next bishop of Birmingham Alabama will be an instant personality on EWTN. I wonder if any of the priests from EWTN are on the short list?

Do you think there should be an auxiliary bishop there just for the television ministry?

 

[frommi]

I guess it depends on whether or not we think a bishop could get that network under some kind of control.

 

[irenaeus1]

frommi:

I guess it depends on whether or not we think a bishop could get that network under some kind of control.

Yes, especially since they’re so out of control.

 

[Marquette]

frommi:

I guess it depends on whether or not we think a bishop could get that network under some kind of control.

In what ways do you think they are not under control?

 

[frommi]

Marquette:

In what ways do you think they are not under control?

I think the way they tend to pick and choose which bishops are ewtn worthy is one thing thats a problem.

 

[irena]

I don’t think she said it quite like that. From what I recall, she
phrased it that if a bishop is not teaching the Real Presence of
Jesus in the Eucharist, her obedience would not be there. Or, something like that.

I have alot of love and respect for Mother Angelica and EWTN. It is EWTN that brought me back to the faith and true understanding of Catholic teaching. I didn’t get that from the late 1970’s CCD classes where we had roundtable discussions about our feelings about divorce, and things like that. I never learned scripture, or lives of great saints to be inspired by, or apologetics to defend my faith. I did make some nice burlap banners for Mass, though.

Before I came across EWTN, I had gone to different denomination churches and considered becoming Eastern Orthodox. I even went to a Messianic Jewish service. I decided to give Catholicism another look and made an appointment with a priest. This priest didn’t want to even talk with me! He never asked my name, and when I told him how I was searching for truth and God, he told me to just go to the parish RCIA classes and ask my questions there. I was a baptised, confirmed Catholic who had gone through the assembly line of sacraments in the 1970’s and early 1980’s, yet was dismissed and told to go ask my questions at RCIA. I didn’t feel RCIA was the right forum for confused Catholics, to be honest. I happened upon EWTN and that is where I felt I was understood. This station realized there was a need to teach the orthodox Catholic faith to Catholics and non-Catholics. I felt challenged to lead a better life, to ask deeper questions, to really put my focus and trust in Jesus. For this reason, EWTN will always hold a special place in my heart, it is what brought me closer to Jesus.

 

[irenaeus1]

frommi:

I think the way they tend to pick and choose which bishops are ewtn worthy is one thing thats a problem.

Problem?.. All the more reason to support EWTN.

In Christ,
Irenaeus

 

[irenaeus1]

frommi:

I think the way they tend to pick and choose which bishops are ewtn worthy is one thing thats a problem.

As if liberal ministries and publications don’t do the same thing.

 

[frommi]

irenaeus1:

Problem?.. All the more reason to support EWTN.

In Christ,
Irenaeus

They are all successors of the apostles…that channel has no right to encourage disobedience based on their narrow view of catholicism. The motto of that network should be “EWTN: Because none of you can possibly do any worse”

 

[irenaeus1]

frommi:

They are all successors of the apostles…that channel has no right to encourage disobedience based on their narrow view of catholicism. The motto of that network should be “EWTN: Because none of you can possibly do any worse”

Nestorius was a successor of the apostles. Judas was himself an apostle. So what’s your point?

You claim that the channel has no right to encourage disobedience… sure it does. It is the successors of the apostles themselves who have no right to encourage disobedience based on their erroneous view of catholicism.

BTW, to be fair, do you gripe that the National Catholic Reporter, or New Ways Ministries, or Dignity USA, or Call to Action, or any number of so-called Catholic organizations don’t exactly encourage obedience to Burke, or Vasa, or Chaput, or Bruskewitz, or more importantly, the Successor of Peter. Let’s be consistent.

Like I said before, all the more reason to support EWTN. Mother Angelica has that right. The ministry is sponsor and viewer/listener supported, so apparently they acknowledge her right.

In Christ,
Irenaeus

 

[MikeinSD]

Fr. Oscar is retiring? Archbishop of Mobile?

 

[Marquette]

irena:

I have alot of love and respect for Mother Angelica and EWTN. It is EWTN that brought me back to the faith and true understanding of Catholic teaching.

Before I came across EWTN, I had gone to different denomination I even went to a Messianic Jewish service.This station realized there was a need to teach the orthodox Catholic faith to Catholics and non-Catholics. I felt challenged to lead a better life, to ask deeper questions, to really put my focus and trust in Jesus. For this reason, EWTN will always hold a special place in my heart, it is what brought me closer to Jesus.

I totally agree with you. Mother Angelica is responsible for my now being in RCIA ready for confirmation Holy Saturday. I am protestant since birth–raised Baptist, then Covenenter, then like you I studied with a Messianic Jewish rabbi for a while. I was channel surfing one day and ran across a nun with an eye patch! I said, “Is this some kind of joke?” but started listening to her. I was hooked. I would keep going back to EWTN trying to catch Mother Angelica and stumbled into Scott Hahn and a few others, started reading books they talked about, including early church fathers, and as a result, Holy Saturday I will be Catholic! I LOVE JESUS AND I LOVE EWTN. I hardly watch any other network. http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

 

[Brendan]

frommi:

They are all successors of the apostles…that channel has no right to encourage disobedience based on their narrow view of catholicism. The motto of that network should be “EWTN: Because none of you can possibly do any worse”

If you are refering to Mother Angelica’s comment to Cardinal Mahony, she issued an ‘on air’ apology.

Do you have any other incidence in mind where EWTN encourages disobedience?

 

[frommi]

Brendan:

If you are refering to Mother Angelica’s comment to Cardinal Mahony, she issued an ‘on air’ apology.

Do you have any other incidence in mind where EWTN encourages disobedience?

Oh I don’t know…giving Mel Gibson, who’s pretty much a schismatic, air time with Ray Arroyo might count

 

[Brendan]

frommi:

Oh I don’t know…giving Mel Gibson, who’s pretty much a schismatic, air time with Ray Arroyo might count

Ahh, so eccumencialism is now ‘disobedience’

And I suppose when they gave air time to the Episcopalian bishop about their conference, that was also ‘encouraging disobedience’. He is both a heretic AND a schismatic.

 

[frommi]

Brendan:

Ahh, so eccumencialism is now ‘disobedience’

And I suppose when they gave air time to the Episcopalian bishop about their conference, that was also ‘encouraging disobedience’. He is both a heretic AND a schismatic.

Isn’t there a difference between an episcopalian bishop and a man who is building his own catholic church because he doesn’t like the one’s we have?

 

[Brendan]

frommi:

Isn’t there a difference between an episcopalian bishop and a man who is building his own catholic church because he doesn’t like the one’s we have?

If giving airtime to a schismatic is an encouragement of disobedience, what difference does the sign on their Church door make?

If it was a Polish National Catholic Church bishop that was interviewed by a Catholic News Organization, would that be equally a sign of disobedience?

After all, they are building new churches because they don’t like the one we have too?

 

[msproule]

frommi:

Isn’t there a difference between an episcopalian bishop and a man who is building his own catholic church because he doesn’t like the one’s we have?

I would bet if the episcopalian bishop made a monumental movie about Christ, he would also get some airtime. Although I did not see the interview with Gibson, I am sure this was the topic of discussion.

 

[Brendan]

msproule:

I would bet if the episcopalian bishop made a monumental movie about Christ, he would also get some airtime. Although I did not see the interview with Gibson, I am sure this was the topic of discussion.

Even without the making of a movie, Schismatic\Heretic Bishops have been given airtime or print space in Catholic News organizations.

Frommi would seem to think that only Mel Gibson’s appearance warrants a charge of disobence, I am I still wondering why.

It seems it is somehow related to building churches, but that Episcopalians have been building seperate churches for centuries, and that doesn’t seem to count for some reason.

I am also interested in hearing more about Frommi’s opinions on exactly how much creative control Bishops should have over privately owned press organizations within their diocese?

Frommi, should the Bishop of Birmingham also completely control the other TV broadcasters in his diocese? Perhaps WJSU, ABC’s affiliate, or maybe WIAT, the local CBS station.

 

[msproule]

Furthermore, with valid Sacraments and Holy Orders, aren’t PNCC Bishops also Successors to the Apostles? So I suppose with that mentality, they should be given a platform, too.

It really matters not. I doubt “control” over EWTN will have anything to do with the decision.