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To my knowledge, I have never heard anyone discouraged from attributing the construction of the wall to Herod.
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I believe that Herod was a man who suffered from much inner turmoil, which manifested externally in the form of irrational and extreme behavior.
We should also consider the case of King David, who was disallowed from building the first Temple due to the fact that he had shed much blood, over the years, when fighting enemies of the nation. His son, Shelomo (Solomon), whose name means “its peace,” was privileged to oversee the construction of the Temple instead.
Another great question!
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when the jewish messiah comes, does that mean there will be a 3rd temple?
is that part of the prophecy? i know that they have descendents of the priests who are preparing for that time. why would they want to continue the animal sacrifices?
is that part of the prophecy? i know that they have descendents of the priests who are preparing for that time. why would they want to continue the animal sacrifices?
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Shalom 'alekha, and thank you for allowing me the privilege of sharing that love with you.Verus Israel,
Thank you very much for sharing your obvious love and knowledge about Jewish religion, culture, and history. I am fortunate to meet you, even if it is on the Internet.
As a Benedictine oblate (a “regular” person living a life patterned on monastic principles in the Rule of St. Benedict which was compiled about 530 CE), I read (some people sing) Psalms as part of a daily liturgy — up to seven times a day — I usually am doing good to pray the Divine Office three times a day, however.
This daily liturgy, also called the Divine Office, appears to have some of its roots in some of the liturgical practices of the Second Temple. Thus, ancient and modern Jewish liturgical practices are topics of interest.
However, my question is only about modern Jewish practices.
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Do any modern Jewish groups pray the Psalms several times a day or follow a daily prayer schedule, ie morning, noon, and night, for example?
I know there is a specific Psalm for each day of the week and the new moon. And I know that some Jewish people pray the Shema twice daily in the morning and evening [The Shema begins, as you know with, “Hear, Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One” — Deuteronomy 6:4-9, but also includes Deut. 11:13-21, and Numbers 15-37-41)].
Thank you very much.
Psalms are incorporated into our liturgical practices in different ways. Primarily speaking, most Jews have the custom of reading the last six psalms (145-150) and psalm 100 in the morning, before undertaking the recitation of the Shema according to its procedures. This reading of psalms, called “Shirei Zimra” (Hebrew) or “Pesuqei de-Zimra” (Aramaic), is often followed by the reading of chapters 14 and 15 from the book of Exodus; and on the Shabbath, psalm 92 is added. As you noted, the recitation of the Shema includes portions from Deuteronomy and Numbers, and psalm 145 is repeated towards the end of the morning order. As you noted, many Jews have the custom to recite the particular psalm that the Levites would sing in the Temple each day of the week; the order goes: Sunday - psalm 24, Monday - psalm 48, Tuesday - psalm 82, Wednesday - psalm 94, Thursday - psalm 81, Friday - psalm 93, and of course on the Shabbath, psalm 92.
There are also some Jews who read psalms 16, 32, 41, 42, 59, 77, 90, 105, 137, and 150 as a form of meditation; this is known as the tiqqun ha-kelali of Nahman of Breslov.
On Friday evening, many communities have the custom to read psalms 95 through 99, psalm 29, psalms 92 and 93. On the morning of the Shabbath, some communities substitute psalms 19, 34, 90-91, 135-136, 33, 92 and 93 for psalm 100 in the reading of the “Shirei Zimra.”
On holidays we also read the Hallel, which includes psalms 113 through 118.
During the month from the start of the month of Elul (the month we’re currently in) up until Rosh ha-Shana (the start of the month of Tishri and the Jewish year), many Jews have the custom to recite psalm 27 daily.
I think it should also be noted that many Jews are accustomed to reading through the entire book of psalms each month.
I hope that helps!
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Your second interpretation is very interesting! It indicates a sublime distinction between statehood and law…Ohh, I get to answer a question now!
Given the state of the world, it seems that this prophecy has not yet come to pass. From a Catholic point of view, the “times of the Messiah” are still upon us, since Jesus said that He will never leave us. Perhaps the rabbi was referring to the endtimes?
On another tack, I think that passage means that God’s law will be recognized as supreme in all the world, expanding Israel from that small (but beautiful) bit of land, and an ethnically distinct people to all the land, and all the human race.
Ok, my turn
Are you waiting for the Messiah?
And…
Do you know if pardes is the root of the English word “paradise”?
I await the Messiah each and every moment; and to my knowledge, pardes is indeed the root of the word “paradise.”
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I presume that by “messianic Jewish movement” you are referring to those who identify with Jesus, and not those who believe that the late leader of the Habad-Lubavitch movement, Menahem Mendel Schneerson (of blessed memory), was the messiah.
I believe that the messianic Jewish movement indicates the yearning of many individuals, Jewish and non-Jewish, to reconcile and reintegrate the social vision of Jesus with the social system of the Jewish people. As such, it’s roots lie clearly in the main trunk of our Tree; I just wish that members of the movement will dutifully study and attempt to understand our law, and always remember that teshuva is our way of moving past mistakes in restoring our relationship with God.
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Ah, thank you for clearing that up! It appears that pardes is in fact another loanword from the Greeks, which was incorporated into the rabbinic discourse.
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i still remember what i call the 3 “t’s” of judaism when i studied at the synagogue - teshuvah, tzedakah and tefillah!!
also, i don’t know hebrew very well, but the “ah” at the end of the word - does that have meaning.
like torAH, deborAH, teshuvAH, tzedakAH, tefillAH. i studied hebrew for a few months, but i don’t remember very much.
also, i don’t know hebrew very well, but the “ah” at the end of the word - does that have meaning.
like torAH, deborAH, teshuvAH, tzedakAH, tefillAH. i studied hebrew for a few months, but i don’t remember very much.
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I will do my best. Lashon ha-Ra’ (literally “negative manner of speech”) refers to true statements made about someone that depict them in a negative light. Such gossip, sometimes well-intentioned and often not, can do much to ruin the reputation, livelihood, relationships, and even life of the individual who is the object of discussion. It is a most egregiously mistaken activity to engage in; one that, as opined by many in the rabbinic literature, causes the speaker to “lose his or her portion in the coming world.”
For more on the subject, I suggest reading Words That Hurt, Words That Heal by Joseph Telushkin.
A very important topic to discuss!
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You are asking a very good question about the nature of the relationship between the Tanakh (the written law) and the halakha (the practiced, “oral” law). The halakha is ultimately organically derived from the Tanakh through the application of various hermeneutic principles and modes of interpretation. It is further shaped by rabbinic enactments and instructions that correspond to and emulate the halakhic categories embodied in the biblical system of 613 precepts. The biblical system serves as the foundation upon which the socio-cultural structure of halakha is built; this culminates in individual custom and practice (in Hebrew, nihug and minhag), important elements in each Jew’s development of his or her own relationship with God.
This is only a poor introduction to the very surface of our system of jurisprudence. For a bit more information, I refer you to a translation of the words of Maimonides on the subject.
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For many Jews, belief in the messiah is usually linked with a hope for the reconstruction of the Temple and the reinstatement of a/the Temple service. Given the fact that the Temple is designated in the book of Kings as “a house of prayer for all nations,” and given the organic evolution of the service from a sacrificial system to a system of prayer, it is not unreasonable to relate to the third Temple as a symbol of the best humanity has to offer and our highest aspirations - peace, love, communication, and the like.
There are some Jews who see deep meaning in every aspect of the sacrificial system, and hope for its resumption only insofar as it is a system in which they hope to draw closer to God. So you see, their preference for animal sacrifice does not stem from a barbaric insensitivity towards God’s creations, but rather from a great yearning to experience the transcendence of God’s presence.
I hope that makes things a bit clearer.
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thank you versus israel. we have definitely kept you busy tonight!!
it is nice to have someone with knowledge of judaism to answer these questions clearly.
it is nice to have someone with knowledge of judaism to answer these questions clearly.
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A wonderful phrase to remember!
“Teshuva - reconsidering one’s actions; Tefilla - introspectively evaluating one’s needs and desires; and Tsedaqa - acting justly and charitably; – Ma’avirin eth Ro’a ha-Gezera - reverse a negative enactment [the consequence of mistaken behaviors].”
The “a[h]” ending usually signifies that the word in question is feminine.
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A Christian told me Psalm 22:16 predicted about violent death of Jesus (p) . What jews think of this prediction ?
Is it true that all non - Jews are described as dogs in OT ?
Did not read the whole thread…don’t know if this was answered already. If one dies as a non - Jew before coming back to the Rabbi for the 3rd time , then s/he will be able to enter paradise ?
A Christian told me Psalm 22:16 predicted about violent death of Jesus (p) . What jews think of this prediction ?
Is it true that all non - Jews are described as dogs in OT ?
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! SHALOM!!!
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Assalam aleikum, sister.
There is no true need for a convert to approach a rabbi and be deterred once, let alone thrice. This is merely a strict policy that many communities have endorsed in recent history. It should also be noted that in order to “enter paradise,” as it were, a person certainly does not have to be Jewish; a person must be righteous, affirming truth over falsehood and acting with justice and charity.
Traditionally speaking, we do not believe that the book of Psalms contains any predictions of the future. Non-Jews are never described as dogs anywhere in the Tanakh or rabbinic literature.
I hope that helps!
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is it possible for any idol worshippers to enter paradise if s/he speaks truth , give charity etc ?
If anyone hates Jews but does many good things including worshipping One God , then s/he will enter paradise ?
Is there any verse in your holy book about entering non Jews in heaven ?
thanks a lot for your quick reply . Few related questions . Take ur time …no hurry.
is it possible for any idol worshippers to enter paradise if s/he speaks truth , give charity etc ?
If anyone hates Jews but does many good things including worshipping One God , then s/he will enter paradise ?
Is there any verse in your holy book about entering non Jews in heaven ?
who has the more right to explain Psalms ?
ummm… who are those dogs in Psalms ? In another thread in the forum , I was told they are non Jews.
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You’re very welcome! Shalom 'alayikh!
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Assalam aleikum, sister.
You’re more than welcome; thank you for such interesting questions!
We do not define what constitutes idolatry for non-Jews; that is something which each non-Jewish nation must recognize for itself. Generally speaking, however, we identify an almost necessary link between idolatry and injustice; one seems to be both the pretext and the context of the other. According to rabbinic tradition, any and every human being must act justly to be considered among those who “enter paradise,” so to speak. If someone “hates” Jews, then he or she must be extra careful to deal justly and charitably with us, notwithstanding his or her personal feelings towards us. Do you see the sense in this?
In the Tanakh, many non-Jews (for example, Yithro - Jethro - and his descendants) are believed to have lived righteously, affirming truth and acting justly and charitably. Job, as another example, is believed by some to have been a non-Jew, living according to the manifest objective of the Tora.
I’m not quite sure I understand your question about a “right to interpret” the book of Psalms; would you mind elaborating a bit more on what you mean?
To my knowledge there are some commentators who identify the dogs in that narrative in psalm 22 as allegorical symbols of David’s non-Jewish enemies who pursued him while he was fleeing from king Shaul (Saul).
Thanks again for such interesting questions.
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do you know both hebrew and arabic- versus israel?
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