Any thoughts on the debates?

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Thank you for taking the time to post this. I am in complete agreement.
 
Larry1700 said:
Yes, a moderate position on abortion would be perfectly acceptable. Don’t kill the baby entirely; just yank off a couple of limbs. Or don’t kill 500,000 this year; just kill 250,000.
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No, it’s not “perfectly acceptable”. We are permitted, though, to support partial measures against abortion as long as our ultimate goal is total elimination of abortion, at least as enshrined in law. (There will always be illegal abortion, always has been, always will be, until that day when Our Lord harvests the wheat and burns the chaff.) I believe the American bishops, and perhaps Rome herself, have stated this, though I don’t have a direct quote.

Nobody likes late-term abortion. In a way, it’s kind of providential that pro-choice people have had their backs put to the wall, and have been forced to say, in so many words, that abortion should be legal through the end of the third trimester. You could hear the crickets on the Democratic side when President Trump called them out on this in the State of the Union address. Likewise, people who are otherwise pro-life accept abortion in cases of rape or incest, but cannot tell you why God allows this, cannot tell you why killing the baby is acceptable in these extreme circumstances.

To be consistent in saying that opposition to legal abortion has to be “all or nothing”, you have to be prepared to fight not only to oppose “rape and incest exceptions”, but for outlawing everything up to, and including, potentially abortifacient contraceptives. With a few righteous exceptions, you will not find people willing to go this far anywhere except among orthodox, magisterially faithful Catholics.
 
After watching the debates it looks like Trump has this in the bag lol

“I have a black son.” Really?
 
yankeesouth said:
continuing the Affordable Care Act,
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ACA is not perfect, and we should all hope and pray for an equitable solution to the Sisters’ dispute. It does, however, make affordable insurance available for those who need it, and that is a good thing.

Unfortunately, comprehensive, ACA-compliant health insurance that conforms entirely to Catholic principles doesn’t exist, or if it does, I’ve never heard of it.

Supposing it did? Would Catholics be standing in line to jettison the coverage they already have, and replace it with health insurance that doesn’t cover contraception or abortion?
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Do you think so?

I was “born” a Democrat. My parents were Democrats. No voting ancestor of mine was ever anything but a Democrat. My parents in particular were admirers of Harry Truman. I thought well of Democrats for years and held office in the party. We parted company when it became clear to me that the Dem party was “all in” for abortion.

But the reality now is that the Republican party stands about where the Dem party was in most things when I was a kid growing up, other than civil rights. I don’t think I would characterize it as “far right” except to the extent that the Dem party has moved far to the left, and therefore increased the distance between the parties in the last couple of decades.
 
Both nights of the Democratic Party presidential debates were entertaining and enlightening.
It appeared that Elizabeth Warren won the first night, while Kamala Harris won the second night.
But there are many more debates to come. The process of whittling the original field of over 20 candidates takes time.
I was a bit surprised that most of the candidates favored tweaking the affordable care act rather than shifting to medicare for all.
 
Ridge, the Democrats seem to be all-in for Choice.
They are for allowing a woman who wants an abortion to have the choice or not to have one.
Most of the Democrats that I have heard speak on the subject actually do not like abortion, but feel that it is an option that should be left to the woman who wants to have one. They kind of see it as a woman’s rights issue.
 
Reminded me of the GOP debates prior to the 2016 election, except there was no name-calling at the Democratic Party debates Wednesday and Thursday.
 
Oh yes, both parties are more extreme, particularly with regard to social issues. Neither understands that is not what most of the American people prefer. But the political problem is more with the Democrats because they fail to understand why they lost the previous election, which is mainly that the people are sick and tired of politics as usual and political correctness. Trump was a breath of fresh air in this respect. Instead of grasping this, the Democrats actually believe that they lost to Trump because they were not progressive enough, and so they continue to go further to the left. They are going in the wrong direction. I see no one of these twenty candidates who can beat Trump, unless he gets us into a costly war or something of that nature. Elizabeth Warren is perhaps the best chance, but even she is not good enough. The Democrats need someone with the bravado and charisma of a Bill Clinton, but that kind of Democrat does not exist anymore.
 
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Le_Crouton said:
After watching the debates it looks like Trump has this in the bag
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Trump already had it in the bag. It’s just a matter of who the next one to take a good old beat down from him will be.
 
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I believe Trump won it definitively when the media and the “woke” celebrities jumped on the Covington Catholic boys.
 
Ridgerunner said:
But the reality now is that the Republican party stands about where the Dem party was in most things when I was a kid growing up, other than civil rights. I don’t think I would characterize it as “far right” except to the extent that the Dem party has moved far to the left, and therefore increased the distance between the parties in the last couple of decades.
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I would have to agree with the original comment; both parties have become extremist which is creating a great divide on the ability for them to come together on issues.

There are so many items that have taken place that makes me question the direction of the Republican Party. The first would be when the party folded during the 2016 Presidential Campaign and supported Trump as its candidate. Trump was (and is) a populist who does not reflect conservative values. Even after boasting about his wealth; it was discovered that he did not fund his own campaign but relied on “far right” groups like the Mercer’s who brought extremist like Steve Bannon to his campaign.

Then there is his relationship with Russia. When Reagan was president, he worked with Gorbachev but had some hesitation about glasnost and perestroika. Now, Trump idolizes Putin and tells the American people that their conversations are none of our business. Perestroika? Where?

Truly not your parents party…
 
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