Any young earth creationists out there?

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SacredHeartBassist said:
You don’t need to worry about your wife working. You need to worry about the stuff you believe in because this is unattractive.
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I don’t try to please other men with my beliefs. I hold fast to the tradition of the Church, because the tradition of the Church cannot all of a sudden be bad or harmful.
 
You aren’t teaching tradition. You’re trying to say something is tradition when it isn’t
 
I would show you guys cases of fossils popping up where they shouldn’t be, but I’m afraid you don’t want to accept creationist sources.
 
Yes, everyone has a bias.

Creationists are challenging mainstream science, because nobody else seems to be doing that.

We could start here I suppose.
 
Science isn’t about being mainstream. It’s all about testing and challenging. If you put an idea out there, you have to provide empirical evidence to back it up and be willing to have your ideas scruntinized, reviewed and challenged. New theories with better explaining power are developed-- we keep building upon previous knowledge… that’s what makes science, science.

Anyway, it’ll take me some time to read through that. I am willing to look at creationist arguments with an open mind. I’ve read a lot of creationist arguments, but I’m not sure if I’ve seen this one. Are you willing to study the evidence for evolution? I’m sorry if I’m mistaken, but from your posts, but it sounds like most of what you learned about evolution comes from creationist sources.
 
Not only creationist sources. Traditional catholic sources as well.

The main reason I reject evolution is that it is a metaphysical impossibility. It violates basic metaphysical principles that anyone could understand.
 
semper_catholicus said:
The main reason I reject evolution is that it is a metaphysical impossibility. It violates basic metaphysical principles that anyone could understand.
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There’s no need for you to reject evolution at all. Just be a six-day literalist and stick to your faith.

Still, since you’ve brought it up, I should be interested in why evolution is a metaphysical impossibility and what basic metaphysical principles it violates.
 
semper_catholicus said:
Not only creationist sources. Traditional catholic sources as well.
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Sources that support your beliefs and do not challenge them.
semper_catholicus said:
It violates basic metaphysical principles that anyone could understand.
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Clearly not anyone and everyone. Have you looked at the counterarguments?
Have you truly come to this conclusion yourself, examining both sides of the argument, or are you just quoting creationist sources?
 
Just to be clear, are you thinking of Macroevolution, or microevolution?
 
Jesus believed the Creation account when He said
" From the beginning, God made them male and female, for this reason a man shall leave father and mother and cleave to his wife "
Also when describing conditions at the end of the world He says " As in the days of Noah " .
He also believed in the great worldwide flood .
Virtually all of Jesus’ miracles were performed instantly. It is consistent to believe that the miracle of Creation did not take a great extended period of time , but took place as the Word of God says - in six days
 
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semper_catholicus said:
The principle that nothing is greater than its cause.
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The cause of evolution is the vast, overriding, universal, eternal laws of nature, put in operation by God. Evolution has affected a tiny quantity of matter on the very surface of a tiny planet among trillions of solar systems. Of course it’s not greater than its cause. Is that the best you can do?
 
It was not JUST Mary that was involved in the Incarnation, it was also the Holy Ghost.
 
semper_catholicus said:
microevolution
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Microevolution over a long enough time period leads to macroevolution.

Take the word “evolution.” Once a year, replace one letter with the next letter in the alphabet - if you start in 2018, in 2019 the word, via microevolution, has become “fvolution.” But by the year 2030, the word has undergone macroevolution and mutated into “fwpmvujpo.” It’s become a totally new thing.

Switch out the word evolution with all the biological organisms on our planet, and switch out the 12 years for 4.54 billion years - voila, biological macroevolution.
 
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Carmel said:
Evolution = Fairy tales for adults
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Good argument…

Many atheists say “Religion = Fairy tales for adults.”

You know you’re on solid intellectual ground when your argument becomes “lol fairy tales.”
 
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