Any young earth creationists out there?

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I believe the Scriptures allow for a an old earth and universe, but I also believe it implies the “six days” of creation occured less than 10,000 years ago (or as the Roman Martyrology suggests, a little more than 7,000 years ago).
 
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“Nelka said:
Adam existed, he is also mentioned in the New Testament and his son Abel is in the Eucharistic prayer!
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Neika, you must understand that these facts mean nothing to a theistic evolutionist - Scientism (euphemistically referred to as “science”) trumps anything the Scriptures say!
 
My father used to tell me that I have brains, but I don’t like to use them.

I didn’t agree, because it took me only ten years to complete Grades 1-7 at primary school.
 
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Many of us believe that a real Adam and a real Eve happened to be the first male and female hominids endowed with an eternal soul from among a larger, pre-existing community of hominids.
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These alleged hominids must have been the same as humans except they lacked a soul (unless evolution acts very, very quickly, as in, turning a monkey-man into a human overnight). So what happened to this race of very intelligent beings? Or are they still around, hiding somewhere maybe?
 
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Nelka said:
If Neanderthals didn’t have human souls as you say then they weren’t human were they?
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Souls aren’t physically preserved so it would be conjecture. It’s, in my opinion, a reasonable conjecture that Neanderthals had true human souls, but I also have to acknowledge that I don’t know.
 
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Please correct me if I’m wrong, but haven’t you criticised creationists on this forum for not conforming to Church teaching?
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Not at all. I have criticised them for denying their own premises. The only justification for Creationism, in the absence of any evidence, is some form of literal interpretation of the Catholic Scriptures, and the only reason for thinking that these Scriptures should be taken as credible is because they are one of the foundations of the Catholic Church. As it happens, the Catholic Church, using the Scriptures in conjunction with other foundations, has decided that much of Genesis, at least, is figurative, and that an evolutionary explanation is at least a probable explanation for the origin of the universe and life, and need not be denied. In denying the authority of the Catholic Church to speak about origins, Creationists deny the only reason they have for presenting Genesis as a valid account.
 
twf said:
Many of us believe that a real Adam and a real Eve happened to be the first male and female hominids endowed with an eternal soul from among a larger, pre-existing community of hominids.
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I believe that would be the kind of polygenism condemned by Humani Generis. But there are theologians questioning if biological (as distinct from spiritual) polygenism works. ie A&E were the first two with souls. They have children and those children mated with non-ensouled biologically (basically) identical hominids and the children of those parents took biological polygenism while their souls had spiritual monigenism.
 
Nelka said:
If Neanderthals didn’t have human souls as you say then they weren’t human were they?
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I think Neanderthals almost certainly had souls. Also Denisovans, heidelbergensis and probably the later Homo erectus. To be sure, one would have to decide what characteristics of a fossil assemblage might be indicators that the ‘owners’ of the fossils had souls. Perhaps an Old Earth Creationist could have a go at telling us?
 
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Okay. So the gates of hell have prevailed against Christ’s Church in contradiction to the Scriptures. Got it.
 
Except for the part wherein it contradicts Catholic teaching, then indeed it is totally consistent with Catholic teaching!

I for one despise the modern attempts to break apart Scripture into 4 or however many different authors when most of the evidence for it breaks down when one considers Judaism’s special care when using the Name of God. But that is still an opinion allowed, and indeed one can hold it.

But it does not seem one is allowed to hold that we do not share common parents.
 
Quite so. Mea culpa. Nevertheless, allegorical rather than literal interpretation of Adam and Eve is what most modern Catholic theologians believe, so I’m in good company.
 
Reinterpreting Scripture based on provisional human reasoned science is such a bad idea. It has permeated scriptural scholarship.

When science comes up with its next new finding will we have to reinterpret again?
 
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