Any young earth creationists out there?

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Glark said:
A fine observation, to be sure, but the physical dimension is a product of the ultimate reality of God’s spirit, a dimension in which science is clueless. In other words, science can only scratch the surface of reality.
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Right. So, then: why are you denying science the opportunity to speak on those matters in which it has competence? If science can discern truths about physical reality, then why refuse to allow them to do so? (I’m not talking about scientists who then attempt to take their empirical knowledge and make philosophical / theological statements from it, but only those who are speaking about empirical evidence and the conclusion which proceed from it.) 🤔
Glark said:
Sorry, but you are wrong. None of these areas of science depend in any way on the “information” that life on earth evolved from microbes.
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Take a deep breath and think for a moment. If evolution began elsewhere, then you’d be positing two sets of laws – one for the ‘evolution’ you’re ok with, and another that accounts for the “microbes up to that point”. There’s no evidence for such a bifurcated set of systems. So, you can posit that, if you wish, but to do so in the absence of evidence makes it simply an opinion, and an unfounded one at that. So, be careful in which direction you point out “brainwashing”, since three fingers are pointing right back at you, as the saying goes… 😉
Glark said:
I’ve been on the lookout for a practical use for Darwin’s tree-of-life “discovery” for years and have never found one.
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I call shenanigans. 😉
 
He was saying I didn’t spend any time studying evolution. I was showing that I did.
 
edwest211 said:
Selective breeding is intelligent design as is genetic engineering. Evolutionary computation is wish fulfillment.
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Both are helped by what we know of the mechanisms of evolution.

But hey, keep saying “it ain’t so!” without actually showing how.
 
Nope. There is no evolution guide. Primitive humans did most of the work, the rest had nothing to do with evolution.
 
Primitive humans weren’t making antibiotics or using directed evolution to manipulate proteins last time I checked.
 
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TheAmazingGrace said:
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edwest211:
Selective breeding is intelligent design as is genetic engineering. Evolutionary computation is wish fulfillment.
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Both are helped by what we know of the mechanisms of evolution.

But hey, keep saying “it ain’t so!” without actually showing how.
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If hypothetically the climate of the Amazon jungle where to slowly become over a period of millions of years a climate like Canada, do you suppose that the animals there would evolve to handle such a climate?
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
Gives insight into cell mutagenesis, which has allowed scientists to use directed evolution to amplify certain proteins
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How is the “information” that life on earth evolved from microbes essential to this research? I suspect you are talking about microevolution here, which doesn’t depend in any way on the theory of microbe-man evolution … so that link exists only in your head.
Think of it this way: A “fundamentalist” biologist who totally rejects microbe-man evolution and believes in a literal, six-days of creation could perform exactly the same research and come up with exactly the same results.

And you didn’t answer my previous question: How is the selective breeding of plants and animals dependent on belief in microbe-man evolution? Plant and animal breeding is restricted to exploiting variations within “kind”, so I’m just dying to know how belief in evolution from one kind into another kind can possibly be useful in this endeavour?
 
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Hugh_Farey said:
dless”? I understand your sensitivity to accusations of misrepresentation, but it seems that either you did not read all my post, or that you have deliberately selected just small part of it with the intention of misrepresenting my opinions.
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Sorry, what I meant was, you have adopted a scientific theory that was invented by the devil and was then injected into the bloodstream of humanity via godless people - in order to promote more godlessness - in order to postpone or avoid the time when “the fullness of the Gentiles comes in” (Romans 11). So by supporting and promoting evolution, you are unwittingly supporting and promoting a doctrine of demons.
 
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Glark said:
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Hugh_Farey:
dless”? I understand your sensitivity to accusations of misrepresentation, but it seems that either you did not read all my post, or that you have deliberately selected just small part of it with the intention of misrepresenting my opinions.
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Sorry, what I meant was, you have adopted a scientific theory that was invented by the devil and was then injected into the bloodstream of humanity via godless people - in order to promote more godlessness - in order to postpone or avoid the time when “the fullness of the Gentiles comes in” (Romans 11). So by supporting and promoting evolution, you are unwittingly supporting and promoting a doctrine of demons.
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You should tell the Pope that he’s promoting a doctrine of demons. I’m sure he’ll be intrigued.

His Holiness, Pope Francis
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Glark said:
Sorry, what I meant was, you have adopted a scientific theory that was invented by the devil and was then injected into the bloodstream of humanity via godless people - in order to promote more godlessness - in order to postpone or avoid the time when “the fullness of the Gentiles comes in” (Romans 11). So by supporting and promoting evolution, you are unwittingly supporting and promoting a doctrine of demons.
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Oh, I see. I, on the other hand, am certain that your version of biblical literalism is one of the most important factors responsible for the decline of Christian religious adherence throughout the world. As such it cannot be considered other than the work of the Devil himself, who has infiltrated the minds of those self-trained to unquestioning faith, and so, like the HIV virus destroying the human immune system, prevented their God-given reason from helping them correct themselves.
 
Biology teacher: And the fossil record coupled with dna…
Glark: But sir! Sir!
T: Shut up, Glark. As I said, the fossil record…
G: But sir, you are promoting a doctrine of demons!
T: Glark, if you don’t button it…
G: But this information is completely useless!
T: Glark, there is most certainly something useless in this class. And the rest of you can stop laughing at the boy immediately or you’ll get double homework.
G: I’m going to tell the Pope about you. Just you wait.
 
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Primitive humans were using herbs effectively. Evolution plays no role in drug discovery. Proteins are highly complex. Scientists know very little about protein folding. Any work they are doing is intelligent design.
 
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