Anybody out there "pro-choice"?

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So what makes you think you have more of a right to live than these innocent children?
I will give you sixty million dollars if you can show me any place on any thread on this entire forum where I specifically wrote that I have more of a right to exist than any fetus whose mother is considering abortion.

Limerick
 
So what makes you think you have more of a right to live than these innocent children?
**One more thing here: if these are truly “innocent children”, how is it that they are already stained with Original Sin?

Nobody is innocent.

L**
 
**There were 782 opinions posted before yours. I would say your answer is in there somewhere.

Limerick**
Yes I think this has been debated to the inth degree and if minds are set, then so be it. One can only plan a seed, only God can make it grow through the Son. So God bless, I am out of here. c.
 
GodLovesTheSpek tells us, "Abortion is sadness, despair and ruin."

This is inaccurate. It discounts the possibility of healing and spiritual rebirth through confession.

You’re a Catholic, you say?

L
 
**There were 782 opinions posted before yours. I would say your answer is in there somewhere.

Limerick**
Could you answer my other question? What are the only two natural outcomes after conception?
  • Michael
 
GodLovesTheSpek tells us, "Abortion is sadness, despair and ruin."

This is inaccurate. It discounts the possibility of healing and spiritual rebirth through confession.

You’re a Catholic, you say? ((What was it you said to someone else about being testy?))
The original statement is not innaccurate. Your point is an ammendment. Therefore, it would read - “Abortion is sadness, despair and ruin UNLESS or UNTIL one gains healing and spiritual rebirth through Confession.”
 
**There were 782 opinions posted before yours. I would say your answer is in there somewhere.

Limerick**
So, you are lazy to answer a simple question… you would rather make me waste countless hours upon hours searching for your words of wisdom (or lack thereof)… nah. can’t you just answer a simple question for me… do you personally think its morally wrong to terminate a pregnancy at any stage?

You appear smart, you can do that for me in one sentence, right? Thanks!
  • Michael
 
I will give you sixty million dollars if you can show me any place on any thread on this entire forum where I specifically wrote that I have more of a right to exist than any fetus whose mother is considering abortion.

Limerick
Your actions speak for you.

You are alive.

50-60 million babies are dead and you consistently preach your dedication to the cause of death.

How can you say that you have never said that you have more of a right to exist than any of the dead unborn? You are not reading/understanding what you have written.

Eddie Mac
 
So, you are lazy to answer a simple question… you would rather make me waste countless hours upon hours searching for your words of wisdom (or lack thereof)… nah. can’t you just answer a simple question for me… do you personally think its morally wrong to terminate a pregnancy at any stage?

You appear smart, you can do that for me in one sentence, right? Thanks!
  • Michael
Lim,

Let me ask the question this way: Are there any circumstances where you believe abortion is morally wrong?
  • Michael
 
Could you answer my other question? What are the only two natural outcomes after conception?
  • Michael
"Duhhh . . . I’ll take Life Is Good or Pine Box Blues for 1000, Alex."

I did answer you. You ask a game question, you get a game answer.

Limerick
 
The original statement is not innaccurate. Your point is an ammendment. Therefore, it would read - “Abortion is sadness, despair and ruin UNLESS or UNTIL one gains healing and spiritual rebirth through Confession.”
**My statement is accurate. You have simply paraphrased it.

L**
 
So, you are lazy to answer a simple question… you would rather make me waste countless hours upon hours searching for your words of wisdom (or lack thereof)… nah. can’t you just answer a simple question for me… do you personally think its morally wrong to terminate a pregnancy at any stage?

You appear smart, you can do that for me in one sentence, right? Thanks!
  • Michael
**I can’t make you do anything you don’t want to do, Michael. You’re a volunteer.

The question you ask in this post is not at all the question you asked in the previous post, the one about which you are casting stones and claiming I’m “lazy”. Believe me, if I were lazy I couldn’t take on ten or twenty posters 24/7 for weeks on end.

Now, as to this particular question: " … do you personally think its morally wrong to terminate a pregnancy at any stage?", my answer is this:

I got pregnant at age 18 due to ignorance and a search for someone to actually care about me. I aborted the fetus at 13 weeks. I understood that I was not cultivating a cabbage in my uterus. I had been exposed to Roman Catholicism from birth until I left home; however, conception, birth, family life, birth control, abstinence, abortion, sexuality in general were absolutely never** discussed in my family of origin. We did not speak of these things.

My mother and father gave four children the best lives they could. We all had our First Holy Communions and we were all confirmed. We all went to public schools but attended CCD classes every Saturday morning. Our parents’ MO was “don’t raise the question and we won’t have to answer it.” My father was old enough to be my grandfather; he was stern, strict, devoted to Jesus and Mary, and a full-blown but functioning alcoholic. Out of the four kids, three became alcoholic. The same three were involved in too many illegal activities to list here - there were multiple arrests, trouble with the FBI, trouble with drug trafficking, trouble with firearms and explosives - the list goes on and on. Remember, these were four kids steeped in Catholicism. Among the four there were three abortions, all before Roe. We have endured rape, pre-adolescent sexual assault, battery, abandonment. There have been two divorces among us, and one brother who is now 52 never married because he never saw real love in action and doesn’t know how the song goes. We were not equipped to enter adulthood on any level.

You want to know about my morality? I had little practical morality when I left home and was filling in the blanks of life and making decisions based on what I thought I needed at the time. When my abortion rolled around I had very little feeling about it, as I was long removed from myself. I also suffer mental illness which was not diagnosed until 18 years after the abortion. I have been medicated now for 21 years but it has not changed my judgment or my view of what is moral and what is not.

If my abortion was immoral I’m certain God will have plenty to say about it when I die and meet Him face to face. The fact that it took place before Roe may have some bearing on His view of the event, but that was a legal consideration and you are primarily interested in the moral consideration, are you not? Therefore, I can honestly say that I have to wait and see what God has to say about my abortion. He alone understands the depth of illness and abuse and suffering that ramped up to the procedure. Extenuating circumstances? Who knows?

As to whether or not another woman’s abortion is immoral, that is not for me to say. Currently it is legal, so she will not have to face the double infraction penalty that I may be facing.

It’s unnecessary and even a tad gauche to accuse me of laziness. Your attitude personifies one of the many reasons that I divorced myself from others’ opinions long ago. Moods swing, sometimes I get offended on the outside; but the worst part of it is that the only true lasting effect your vindictiveness has is that it confirms that I was right when I concluded that people are generally so much less than they could be and should be avoided at all costs.

Limerick
 
Your actions speak for you.

You are alive.

50-60 million babies are dead and you consistently preach your dedication to the cause of death.

How can you say that you have never said that you have more of a right to exist than any of the dead unborn? You are not reading/understanding what you have written.

Eddie Mac
**Can you point it out, Eddie Mac? Where have I said that I have “more of a right to exist than any of the dead unborn”? Point it out, these exact words. Show me.

Limerick**
 
**It’s unnecessary and even a tad gauche to accuse me of laziness. Your attitude personifies one of the many reasons that I divorced myself from others’ opinions long ago. Moods swing, sometimes I get offended on the outside; but the worst part of it is that the only true lasting effect your vindictiveness has is that it confirms that I was right when I concluded that people are generally so much less than they could be and should be avoided at all costs.

Limerick**
Pardon me for saying, but it seems to me you’ve adopted the very tactic you seem to so much despise in other people. Jumping to conclusions about people of which you know very little or nothing at all, saying rude and unnecessary things, suggesting a person is less than what they really are just because of your preconceptions. You’re vindictive yourself.
 
**I will suffer the seconds or millenia in Purgatory just to point out to you that this tactic is petty and unsubstantiated.

L**
Oh, sorry about that. Just thought I’d try adopting your own form of retort to see how successful it was.
 
Pardon me for saying, but it seems to me you’ve adopted the very tactic you seem to so much despise in other people. Jumping to conclusions about people of which you know very little or nothing at all, saying rude and unnecessary things, suggesting a person is less than what they really are just because of your preconceptions. You’re vindictive yourself.
**Pardon you for saying? Say, aren’t you in this same club?

L**
 
**Pardon you for saying? Say, aren’t you in this same club?

L**
I, however, had the decency to apologize afterwards, and even defended you against the rude things other people said to you. Unlike you, who wouldn’t even acknowledge that you’d misjudged me and just continued to sling around your disdainful comments. Disdain is the word you suggested I use for your attitude, isn’t it? Wouldn’t want to read anything into your comments that isn’t there.
 
I, however, had the decency to apologize afterwards, and even defended you against the rude things other people said to you. Unlike you, who wouldn’t even acknowledge that you’d misjudged me and just continued to sling around your disdainful comments. Disdain is the word you suggested I use for your attitude, isn’t it? Wouldn’t want to read anything into your comments that isn’t there.
**If you find it offensive, then don’t read it at all.

L**
 
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