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Yes. I have become convinced that I am called to the single, chaste, celibate life. And that is all I need to say about it.
So, where these dysfunctional married people normal singles before, and marriage made them dysfunctional? Or where they dysfunctional before marriage, and were attracted to other dysfunctional people, instead of “normal” people? What are these perfectly normal singles you know to do? Avoid marriage to stay “normal”? What book did Jesus refer to when challenged in Mt 19?Not in my experience. I know too many deeply dysfunctional married people and too many perfectly normal singles for me to think so.
True. On the other hand, people who married young and lost their husband/wife years later may not want to remarry because they still feel married to their departed spouse. They cannot love another as they loved their husband/wife. I would say these people should remain unmarried. It would not be fair to another prospective spouse if they could not give themselves fully to them.Well, let’s face it, people have been affected by it, either directly or indirectly by the messages they receive from the secular culture which doesn’t value marriage like it used to. And look at the results.
Yeah, that’s one thing, they are still in the grieving stage, and maybe they would be most compatible with someone else who lost their spouse, but they are living proof that they were open to marriage in the first place and are not the one’s I am referring to.True. On the other hand, people who married young and lost their husband/wife years later may not want to remarry because they still feel married to their departed spouse. They cannot love another as they loved their husband/wife. I would say these people should remain unmarried. It would not be fair to another prospective spouse if they could not give themselves fully to them.
This would appear to be consistent with Sacred Scripture. If Paul had been a widower, 1 Cor 7 might appear to harmonize more with 1 Tim 3 and 4, as well as Titus, and Mt 19.True. On the other hand, people who married young and lost their husband/wife years later may not want to remarry because they still feel married to their departed spouse. They cannot love another as they loved their husband/wife. I would say these people should remain unmarried. It would not be fair to another prospective spouse if they could not give themselves fully to them.
Not all single women are feminist like you’ve mentioned. Some chose to be single because they found their love rooted in Christ alone, and feel that they cannot love anyone else like it.Well, let’s face it, people have been affected by it, either directly or indirectly by the messages they receive from the secular culture which doesn’t value marriage like it used to. And look at the results.
And what about married people and people seeking to be married? Don’t they have love for Jesus Christ? And is not love for Jesus Christ also manifested in love for each other?Not all single women are feminist like you’ve mentioned. Some chose to be single because they found their love rooted in Christ alone, and feel that they cannot love anyone else like it.
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Of course, they love Christ but their love for Christ is mediate, through a spouse, and that’s beautiful. But those who chose a single life for the love of Christ alone love Him immediately, like that of a religious. To truly love someone (an opposite sex) in an intimate way is, which I think, the most beautiful and highest form of love that a human being could experience. Those who chose to love Christ immediately love Him with that very love, espousal love, and I don’t think they need to become a religious to have such a intimate relationship with Our Lord. But yet, it is a gift.And what about married people and people seeking to be married? Don’t they have love for Jesus Christ? And is not love for Jesus Christ also manifested in love for each other?
Have you read St. John of the Cross, St. Teresa of Avila, or the Dialogue of St. Catherine? You might find them inspiring. But anyway, you are not wrong, just not thorough… Thanks for sharing!I dont think any call or vocation is more important or immediate etc. than any other…the issue is to me God’s Will for a person and discerning it and living it and nothing is higher than that no matter what God’s Will may be…
Blessings - Barb
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Hellow PCL…Thank you for the reply. Am familiar with the writings of the three saints you mention above.Have you read St. John of the Cross, St. Teresa of Avila, or the Dialogue of St. Catherine? You might find them inspiring. But anyway, you are not wrong, just not thorough… Thanks for sharing!
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Are you implying that those of us who are not married and not priests/religious are inferior?I have heard others ask this question. Here are a couple of answers that I have heard from priests:
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- NO. A person is called to be married or is called to enter into the religious life.
In my opinion? No. Just because you either dedicate your whole self to God by entering the religious life or you dedicate yourself to your husband where togeter you help eachother reach sainthood.
- POSSIBLY. Because the greater modern trend can itself call a person into BLESSED SINGLEHOOD a person may be single and yet consecrated to God. (just like some members of the OPUS DEI)
Some of us are called to marriage and parenthood, but God hasn’t seen fit to send us a spouse yet.Are you implying that those of us who are not married and not priests/religious are inferior?
I spoke with a priest years ago about this. I had made a “deal” with myself that if I had not married within a certain amount of time I would consider entering religious life.I have heard others ask this question. Here are a couple of answers that I have heard from priests:
In my opinion? No. Just because you either dedicate your whole self to God by entering the religious life or you dedicate yourself to your husband where togeter you help eachother reach sainthood.
- NO. A person is called to be married or is called to enter into the religious life.
That’s probably the best way of putting it…feels more like a “sentencing” though.
I thought the Cathechism stated that we choose our own spouses?Some of us are called to marriage and parenthood, but God hasn’t seen fit to send us a spouse yet.
How about single lay people like St Catherine of Siena, and St Rose of Lima (both secular/lay Dominicans rather than nuns)? Their examples help many to reach sainthood so in that sense they perform that same function of wives.I have heard others ask this question. Here are a couple of answers that I have heard from priests:
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- NO. A person is called to be married or is called to enter into the religious life.
In my opinion? No. Just because you either dedicate your whole self to God by entering the religious life or you dedicate yourself to your husband where togeter you help eachother reach sainthood.
- POSSIBLY. Because the greater modern trend can itself call a person into BLESSED SINGLEHOOD a person may be single and yet consecrated to God. (just like some members of the OPUS DEI)