Appleton teen makes heartbreaking decision to die

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One man’s nightmare may be another man’s dream, and vice versa, I suppose. i say things how I see them. Perhaps it says a lot about me, but the prospect of going home alone to an empty house or apartment every night for weeks, months and years is not something I could envision with a great deal of serenity. I think a majority of single people long to be in a love relationship.
Beware what you wish for! I was single for a long time & became happy in it. Then I fell in love. I thought marriage was going to be wonderful - it hasn’t been. Since he’s older than I am, I do sometimes look forward to the time I’ll be alone again. It’s easier to be alone when there is no one else, then to be alone with a spouse.
 
You have spoken error in the posts to which I responded. You do not know the disposition of the souls of the infant unbaptized, not those of any other person. You can only speculate.
A 1 week old baby who dies does not have a disposition. He just landed here, doesn’t know anything about his surroundings, doesn’t know there is a God, that concept is a million miles away from him, so I have no idea what you’re talking about. Religion lends itself perfectly to speculation because we don’t have much in the way of certainty. We do have dogmas, irrefutable truths, but there is a whole lot of stuff that falls between the cracks of dogmas. The eternal fate of anyone who dies unbaptized before the age of reason is one such thing.
 
Beware what you wish for! I was single for a long time & became happy in it. Then I fell in love. I thought marriage was going to be wonderful - it hasn’t been. Since he’s older than I am, I do sometimes look forward to the time I’ll be alone again. It’s easier to be alone when there is no one else, then to be alone with a spouse.
Right, to be lonely in company is worse. Been there, done that.
 
It’s sad to see a anyone, especially a young person, go through what she is going through. However, she is stopping her ventilator, which is considered extraordinary means by the Church. She has no obligation to stay on the vent indefinitely. She is not committing suicide which some of you seem to think.
Opting to stop the ventilator is not suicide.

Opting out of continued medical treatment is not suicide.

These are extraordinary means and we are under no obligation to continue life through extraordinary means.
 
‘‘Thus an act or omission which, of itself or by intention, causes death in order to eliminate suffering constitutes a murder gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator. The error of judgment into which one can fall in good faith does not change the nature of this murderous act, which must always be forbidden and excluded.’’

A ventilator may or may not be an extraordinary means depending on the situation. If you have a terminal cancer patient with a month left to live if he’s assisted by a ventilator, the ventilator just slightly postpones the person"s imminent death. In the young girl’s case, removing the ventilator cuts her life short since her death is not imminent.

‘‘God does not torture anyone’’ is pure semantics. He alone has the power to destroy someone body and soul eternally. If God is merciful it’s in the way he tolerates someone’s transgressions and waits for this person to confess his sins, acknowledge Christ and repent. Post mortem, God is an exacting judge. God is probably not itching to smite anyone, he wills that everyone be saved, but make no mistake about it, he may not be itching to smite but he won’t hesitate to smite anyone who’s reached the age of reason (around 7 years old) who dies with one or more unconfessed mortal sin(s). You may not like what i’m saying but I’m theologically sound.

Hence the reason why we should approach euthanasia and assisted-suicide with ‘‘fear and trembling’’.
The ventilator in her case is still extraordinary means.

The withholding of food and water is ordinary means.

The Church does not oblige us to continue life through extraordinary means.
 
APPLETON – But for her power wheelchair, Jerika Bolen is every bit an active 14-year-old girl – a hopeless romantic with shiny purple hair, a love of alternative music and an addiction to Facebook.

She has a maturity and wisdom that belies her age, and on a recent spring day, as other 14-year-olds were finishing their final year of middle school and making summer plans, Jerika told her mother she was ready to die.

Complete story:

postcrescent.com/story/news/2016/07/14/appleton-teen-makes-heartbreaking-decision-die/86510526/
If her parents allow this to happen it is because they encouraged her either consciously or unconsciously. This will be murder of an innocent. There is a word for this and that word is EVIL.

Killing people when they are down and are vulnerable is the worst of heinous crimes. It follows the same path as abortion.

The Devil is dancing.
 
The eternal fate is known only to God.
Which is exactly what fladreamer was saying. The eternal fate of the unbaptized before the age of reason is unknown to the Catholic Church and humans, only God, in the next world knows what really happens to them. That knowledge really is one example of information that falls between the cracks of dogma, as humans can only speculate, and the pope and Catholic clergy are human.
 
The eternal fate of the unbaptized before the age of reason is unknown…
Correct. Flatdreamer was unwilling to make that statement.

Flatdreamer also felt able to assert the eternal fate of others based on observations of their acts. That is also wrong.
 
Correct. Flatdreamer was unwilling to make that statement.

Flatdreamer also felt able to assert the eternal fate of others based on observations of their acts. That is also wrong.
i’m not a flat-dreamer I’m a Fla dreamer, which is quite different! AndI think you’re reaching wrong conclusions based on your understanding of what i said, not what I actually said. BUT, if a man goes to his ex’s apartment, brutally assaults her with a castiron pan, leaves her for dead while their 2- year old daughter is in day care center, that he comes out of the apartment with an evil smile on his face, that he goes back to his place and hangs himself, the likelihood that he’s in hell is very high. i suspect he’s in hell, I’d be shocked to find out he’s in purgatory, but i leave final judgment to God, period.
 
Opting to stop the ventilator is not suicide.

Opting out of continued medical treatment is not suicide.

These are extraordinary means and we are under no obligation to continue life through extraordinary means.
Is a ventilator extraordinary? There don’t seem to be any financial burdens or anything holding her or her family back; it just seems to be a “I don’t want to continue” decision.
 
Is a ventilator extraordinary? There don’t seem to be any financial burdens or anything holding her or her family back; it just seems to be a “I don’t want to continue” decision.
First, it not our place to make assumptions about this young woman’s motivations. In answer to your question, permanent use of a mechanical ventilator for a person with a terminal illness would generally be considered extraordinary.

see a discussion at:

“What About Ventilators?” by Father Tad Pacholczyk
ncbcenter.org/files/6914/6946/4143/What_About_Ventilators_June_2012.pdf
 
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