Are Catholics better?

[jcrichton]

China, the Soviet Union, and North Korea have all been dominantly atheistic states.

None of them has an immigration problem.

Only the dominantly Christian nations have to struggle with immigrants trying by hook or by crook to enter their borders.

That should tell us immigrants fear dominantly Christian nations a whole lot less than they fear dominantly atheistic ones.

Hi!

…it’s easy to follow… those states engage in extreme treatment of immigrants–those that are caught illegally trespassing… well, only God knows!

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[frobert]

China, the Soviet Union, and North Korea have all been dominantly atheistic states.

None of them has an immigration problem.

Only the dominantly Christian nations have to struggle with immigrants trying by hook or by crook to enter their borders.

That should tell us immigrants fear dominantly Christian nations a whole lot less than they fear dominantly atheistic ones.

The driving force is, more likely, a matter of economics (jobs) and access.

The United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Kuwait had the highest number of immigrants as a proportion of their population in 2015 - at 88, 77 and 74 per cent respectively.

In these Gulf oil states, there is a great openness to immigration, with the private workforce being dominated by foreign workers.

South-East Asian and African countries saw the lowest levels of inward migration, with China, Vietnam and Cuba having the lowest numbers. These had rates of lower than 15 immigrants per 10,000 people.

Rates of immigration are increasing in the world - with immigrants consisting of 12.1 per cent of the world’s population in 2005, compared to 13.2 per in 2015.

… The USA has the highest total number of immigrants, being home to 19 per cent of the world’s immigrants.

This is followed by Germany and Russia, with a combined share of 9.7 per cent of the world’s immigrants.

Saudi Arabia had a 4.2 per cent share, boosted by a 15 per cent increase in the number of immigrants between 2005 and 2015.

Of these, the Middle Eastern countries have seen huge increases in the total number of immigrants in the last decade, while Western countries have seen smaller increases.

Source…

With Moslem countries and Russia high up on the list we can see that religion plays a secondary role if any at all.

 

[Charlemagne_III]

With Moslem countries and Russia high up on the list we can see that religion plays a secondary role if any at all.

Certainly arguable.

You don’t see Christians banging on the doors to get into atheist North Korea.

Whereas, truth be known, if North Koreans were even allowed to choose, many would flee to dominantly Christian countries if they dared, where life is generally better and certainly freer.

Incidentally, does UCC stand for United Church of Christ?

 

[frobert]

Certainly arguable.

You don’t see Christians banging on the doors to get into atheist North Korea.

Whereas, truth be known, if North Koreans were even allowed to choose, many would flee to dominantly Christian countries if they dared, where life is generally better and certainly freer.

Incidentally, does UCC stand for United Church of Christ?

North Korea proves my point that immigration is driven by economics and access. North Koreans, in general, are not allowed to emigrate so no access. It’s likely the majority of N Koreans would emigrate to any country with potential jobs, if they were allowed. BTW, who wouldn’t want to flee nasty dictatorships?

Most migration to the US comes from S America due to economics but it doesn’t hurt that most are Christian whereas most migration to Canada comes from Asia, again access and economics in that wealthy Asians want to enjoy the lifestyle of wealthy Westerners and Canada benefits from their wealth. An interesting tidbit, in the past many wealthy Chinese sent their children to colleges in Vancouver to get around the one child policy. Today they send their kids to Canada to get them away from smog and polluted air.

 

[Charlemagne_III]

North Korea proves my point that immigration is driven by economics and access. North Koreans, in general, are not allowed to emigrate so no access. It’s likely the majority of N Koreans would emigrate to any country with potential jobs, if they were allowed. BTW, who wouldn’t want to flee nasty dictatorships?

Well, the reason for nasty dictatorships might be nasty atheists?

Seems to be the case in nasty North Korea.

 

[frobert]

Well, the reason for nasty dictatorships might be nasty atheists?

Seems to be the case in nasty North Korea.

Are you referring to the atheism of the dictator or of the citizenry?

I would think that most of the lower and middle classes of impoverished and/or unstable countries, whether atheists of devout Christian, would want to emigrate to a country that offers economic potential.


19 Reasons Latin Americans Come To The U.S. That Have Nothing To Do With The American Dream

people leave Latin America because life there can be very hard. Poverty, political instability and recurring financial crises often conspire to make Latin American life more challenging than in the U.S., a wealthy country with lots of job opportunities.

It should not be surprising that the article lists19 ways the U.S. government has helped spur immigration by making life harder in Latin America.

 

[Charlemagne_III]

Are you referring to the atheism of the dictator or of the citizenry?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_North_Korea

Life in North Korea must be truly awful.

The economic sphere is pathetic. There is no hope of divine rescue either in this life or in the next. And then you die.

Isn’t there a cyclic pattern of lose … lose … lose here both in the spiritual and material sense?