Are Communion Services ok ?

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My church has three communon services a week. Mass is always said on sunday.
I have read that in cases where mass is on Sunday, communion services should be discouraged. Is this true?

Is a parish wrong if they hold a communion service if the same parish has mass every Sunday?
 
My church has three communon services a week. Mass is always said on sunday.
I have read that in cases where mass is on Sunday, communion services should be discouraged. Is this true?

Is a parish wrong if they hold a communion service if the same parish has mass every Sunday?
Question #1) As I understand it, weekday communion services are discouraged, but the final decision belongs to the Bishop.

Question #2) The parish is not wrong if they have the permission of the Bishop. If they do it on their own authority, then they would be wrong.

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My church has three communon services a week. Mass is always said on sunday.
I have read that in cases where mass is on Sunday, communion services should be discouraged. Is this true?

Is a parish wrong if they hold a communion service if the same parish has mass every Sunday?
No.
 
If there is a shortage of priests and daily Mass is not available, and if the Bishop approves, then a Communion Service is OK.

Supervised by the pastor, to make sure there are enough Consecrated Hosts. Adequate and appropriate coverage, etc. That the Deacon or Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion is properly trained and supervised. That the Tabernacle is safeguarded.

Better than nothing.

Often the whole community backs the idea of a Communion Service, when the alternative is nothing and a specially trained Deacon or Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion performs the Communion Service in a reverent manner.

Very embarrassing for the Church, when there is nothing.
 
My church has three communon services a week. Mass is always said on sunday.
I have read that in cases where mass is on Sunday, communion services should be discouraged. Is this true?

Is a parish wrong if they hold a communion service if the same parish has mass every Sunday?
It is up to your bishop
 
From the 2004 Instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum (at vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html ):

“[166.] Likewise, especially if Holy Communion is distributed during such celebrations, the diocesan Bishop, to whose exclusive competence this matter pertains, must not easily grant permission for such celebrations to be held on weekdays, especially in places where it was possible or would be possible to have the celebration of Mass on the preceding or the following Sunday. Priests are therefore earnestly requested to celebrate Mass daily for the people in one of the churches entrusted to their care.”

The earlier instructions in the 1973 liturgical book “Holy Communion and the Worship of the Eucharist Outside of Mass” come across as more enthusiastic about this approach:

“16. Communion may be given outside Mass on any day and at any hour. It is proper, however, to schedule the hours for giving communion, with a view to the convenience of the faithful, so that the celebration may take place in a fuller form and with greater spiritual benefit. Nevertheless: …”. (From The Rites Volume One, Liturgical Press, 1990, ISBN: 0-8146-6015-0, page 644).

It then lists restrictions for Holy Thursday, Good Friday and Holy Saturday.
 
It is really wonderful to read the responses to the original question. It truly is up to the local bishop. I know one situation where a small chapel (40 miles removed from the closest parish) has a beautiful and reverent CS on Monday through Saturday for 25-30people with the local bishop’s approval. On Sundays a priest visits them.

I have read elsewhere that reciting the LOTH or something else would be “more appropriate.” Outside of an actual sacrificial liturgy I cannot think of anything that would be “more appropriate” in most cases than a CS where those in attendance are allowed to be nourished not only by the word of God but also by His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity.
 
If there is a shortage of priests and daily Mass is not available, and if the Bishop approves, then a Communion Service is OK.

Supervised by the pastor, to make sure there are enough Consecrated Hosts. Adequate and appropriate coverage, etc. That the Deacon or Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion is properly trained and supervised. That the Tabernacle is safeguarded.

Better than nothing.

Often the whole community backs the idea of a Communion Service, when the alternative is nothing and a specially trained Deacon or Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion performs the Communion Service in a reverent manner.

Very embarrassing for the Church, when there is nothing.
FAR, FAR better than “nothing.”

Being nourished by the word of God and Holy Communion is not the Mass but it is a sublime gift.
 
I think a more pertinent question than is it OK to have mid-week communion services, is why is the parish having a mid-week communion?

It is the decision of the diocesan bishop but the Church envisions that they are particularly for those communities in the unfortunate situation of lacking a regular priest on Sundays and consequently no regular Sunday Mass.
 
I don’t see why they would not be OK. One of the parishes where I live does not have a priest to say mass each morning - on the days he is absent a communion service is held.
 
I don’t see why they would not be OK. One of the parishes where I live does not have a priest to say mass each morning - on the days he is absent a communion service is held.
Well, just because something doesn’t have readily-seen problems doesn’t mean it doesn’t have problems.
 
I think a more pertinent question than is it OK to have mid-week communion services, is why is the parish having a mid-week communion?

It is the decision of the diocesan bishop but the Church envisions that they are particularly for those communities in the unfortunate situation of lacking a regular priest on Sundays and consequently no regular Sunday Mass.
So, then, you vote for doing nothing?
 
So, then, you vote for doing nothing?
I don’t think he votes for ‘nothing’. Having a daily Liturgy of the Hours and keeping Communion within Mass is not ‘nothing’ and it’s the official prayer of the Church. Separating Communion from Mass is a big problem – it comes to a point that people don’t care if they have Mass as long as they get Communion.

I’ve seen that happen in parishes that don’t have a priest on a regular basis. It gets to a point that they don’t care if they have a priest as long as one shows up for Christmas and Easter and leaves behind lots of consecrated Hosts when he goes away for 4 months. They care so little for the Prayer of the Church that if Communion isn’t offered they don’t bother to show up for a Liturgy of the Word on Sunday.

I know there’s no obligation to go to Church if there’s no Mass but the Church itself says it’s important to gather as a community that day even if there is no Mass.
 
My church has three communon services a week. Mass is always said on Sunday.
I have read that in cases where mass is on Sunday, communion services should be discouraged. Is this true?

Is a parish wrong if they hold a communion service if the same parish has mass every Sunday?
fall fox

There are people from all around the world contributing to these threads. Situations are difficult in some locations. It is my belief that permission for a Communion service was instituted for those Parishes that would have a Priest only occasionally, not every Sunday. Here in the States there is no reason to have a Communion Service during the week and most of the time not even on Sunday’s. We have too many lay Catholics that want to jump into the shoes of the Priest. In cities like Chicago, New York, Indianapolis, or where ever It is not hard to find a Mass. Our EMHC are not trained well enough to do the Communion Service, They will even help themselves to the Holy Eucharist.
 
I don’t see why they would not be OK. One of the parishes where I live does not have a priest to say mass each morning - on the days he is absent a communion service is held.
Two things here. First, you don’t see why they would not be OK. They’re not OK because the Church says they’re not for use on weekdays as a matter of a routine daily service.

Second, if there’s no priest to say Mass why is it important for you (I say ‘you’ in the plural, i.e. your parish, not you personally) to have a communion service. On a weekday there’s no obligation to go to Mass and even if there was these services don’t fill the obligation. Receiving communion is certainly not mandatory. I am not saying we should only go to Mass when it’s obligatory and I have every admiration for daily Mass goers. But, if there’s no Mass, there’s no Mass; why have a communion service? They separate the communion from the Mass which gives a false theology of disuniting the communion from Mass. It also implies receiving communion is more important than Mass.

There must be a good reason for the Church to say these services must be limited. There are other options for daily worship such as the Divine Office and Liturgy of the Word services.
 
fall fox

There are people from all around the world contributing to these threads. Situations are difficult in some locations. It is my belief that permission for a Communion service was instituted for those Parishes that would have a Priest only occasionally, not every Sunday. Here in the States there is no reason to have a Communion Service during the week and most of the time not even on Sunday’s. We have too many lay Catholics that want to jump into the shoes of the Priest. In cities like Chicago, New York, Indianapolis, or where ever It is not hard to find a Mass. Our EMHC are not trained well enough to do the Communion Service, They will even help themselves to the Holy Eucharist.
Unless you know the particulars of a parish better than the folks right there, then best leave it up to the bishop and the pastor.
 
Unless you know the particulars of a parish better than the folks right there, then best leave it up to the bishop and the pastor.
Answer by Rev. Mark J. Gantley, JCL on 11/5/2007:

If a person is able to attend Mass on Sunday, then the person is obligated to attend Mass. Attending a Communion service is never required and does not fulfill the obligation to attend Mass. You did the right thing of leaving in order to attend Mass elsewhere.

A Sunday Celebration in the Absence of a Priest is permitted on occasions when it is impossible to have Mass and when no other nearby Mass is available. However, there is no obligation to attend such a service.
 
… They’re not OK because the Church says they’re not for use on weekdays as a matter of a routine daily service.

Second, if there’s no priest to say Mass why is it important for you (I say ‘you’ in the plural, i.e. your parish, not you personally) to have a communion service. On a weekday there’s no obligation to go to Mass and even if there was these services don’t fill the obligation. Receiving communion is certainly not mandatory. I am not saying we should only go to Mass when it’s obligatory and I have every admiration for daily Mass goers. But, if there’s no Mass, there’s no Mass; why have a communion service? They separate the communion from the Mass which gives a false theology of disuniting the communion from Mass. It also implies receiving communion is more important than Mass.

There must be a good reason for the Church to say these services must be limited. There are other options for daily worship such as the Divine Office and Liturgy of the Word services.
Can you provide a quote to support: “the Church says they’re not for use on weekdays as a matter of a routine daily service.”

Regarding “if there’s no Mass, there’s no Mass; why have a communion service?” Perhaps considering indulgences would be helpful. From vatican.va/roman_curia/tribunals/apost_penit/documents/rc_trib_appen_pro_20000129_indulgence_en.html :
"4. A plenary indulgence can be gained only once a day. In order to obtain it, the faithful must, in addition to being in the state of grace:

— have the interior disposition of complete detachment from sin, even venial sin;
— have sacramentally confessed their sins;
— receive the Holy Eucharist (it is certainly better to receive it while participating in Holy Mass, but for the indulgence only Holy Communion is required);
— pray for the intentions of the Supreme Pontiff.
  1. It is appropriate, but not necessary, that the sacramental Confession and especially Holy Communion and the prayer for the Pope’s intentions take place on the same day that the indulgenced work is performed; but it is sufficient that these sacred rites and prayers be carried out within several days (about 20) before or after the indulgenced act. Prayer for the Pope’s intentions is left to the choice of the faithful, but an “Our Father” and a “Hail Mary” are suggested. One sacramental Confession suffices for several plenary indulgences, but a separate Holy Communion and a separate prayer for the Holy Father’s intentions are required for each plenary indulgence."
So someone who can receive Communion 365 days a year can get 365 indulgences per year. Someone who can receive Communion 52 times a year can only get 52 indulgences. If someone wants to get an indulgence per day should the bishop have a policy that prevents that?

Some extracts from the Compendium of the Catechism:

"211. How can we help the souls being purified in purgatory?

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Because of the communion of saints, the faithful who are still pilgrims on earth are able to help the souls in purgatory by offering prayers in suffrage for them, especially the Eucharistic sacrifice. They also help them by almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance."

"292. What are the fruits of Holy Communion?

1391-1397
1416

Holy Communion increases our union with Christ and with his Church. It preserves and renews the life of grace received at Baptism and Confirmation and makes us grow in love for our neighbor. It strengthens us in charity, wipes away venial sins and preserves us from mortal sin in the future."

So my understanding is that the bishop has a decision to make.
 
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