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Kaninchen
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If you follow the link in Ed Rand’s post (#57) you’ll find the answers you seek.
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Lapell
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That link mentions 55 prophets in the Scriptures ( that is, the TaNaKH). But other than in the Scriptures, does Judaism recognize other people to have been prophets? As well before what the Jews call the Common Era as during the Common Era itself?
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Lapell
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Also, my understanding is that the whole Jewish has been called to specifically be a people of priests and prophets of the One true God Almighty… (Maybe the Jews who are called either “non observant” or “secular” will reject this statement, though?)
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qui_est_ce
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You have provided some excellent links, but dialogue is helpful, which is why I posted here. So Catholics can understand the Jewish perspective, I’m sure there are many, as there are different Jewish traditions, just as there are different Christian traditions.
The purpose of this thread is for us to learn from the Jewish point of view. We are obviously looking at Judaism and the events at the time of Jesus through Christian lenses. And phrase our questions in Christian terms, because we do not know the Jewish terms. So, Kaninchen, please do not take our questions as an attack or presumptious. We simply want to know.
I find some of your posts needlessly defensive and haughty. It would have been very easy for you to say, “We don’t see Jesus as a prophet, but no, there haven’t or yes there have.” The original poster of this post used Jesus as a timeline reference. This is a legitimate reference, as it the basis of the Common Era, or AD as opposed to BC or BCE calendars used worldwide.
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tomarin
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Sorry, I had a feeling I left something out. Thanks for the correction.
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Valke2
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We do not believe there have been any further prophets other than those mentioned in the TaNaKh. ALthough there were prophets that were not mentioned (prior to the time of Jesus)
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Lapell
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Well, were there or were there not?
If the answer is yes, what were their names?
((in the case they were identified, of course! Because I remember that in 1 Kings 13 (the whole chapter), a man of God from Judea (who went to curse an altar in Samaria, I think) and a local prophet in Samaria, both of them unidentified, and I think that neither is mentioned in the list since they are not identified–unless I am mistaken))
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lurdes
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I’m sorry I was asking you the same question that the other poster asked you in a different way I didn’t know some one else have answer it for you. Why was so hard for you to give us an answer?
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tomarin
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Welcome back, Valke2!
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Kaninchen
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qui_est_ce
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Your responses indicate to me that either
ONE Jew’s POV is haughty defensiveness
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You are not interested in dialoguing, which begs the question of why you are here
Unless it is a combination
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Kaninchen
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You may not have noticed that, in an early response to you, I said that I thought myself a ‘poster who happens to be Jewish’ rather than a ‘Jewish poster’ and asked whether you might understand what I meant.
I’ve been involved in internet discussion boards/lists for about a decade and a half now and, as I’ve said here before on a number of occasions, after all this time I’m not really interested in criticizing the religious beliefs of others, nor defending my religious beliefs.
Now, in the absence of a Jewish poster who really likes discussing such things, I’m prepared to provide links and, where I think it’s necessary, give a kind of ‘ecumenical’ Jewish view (I don’t go on message boards to get involved in criticizing other Jews for being more liberal or more frum).
I’m prepared to do that where people don’t take it as an excuse to ‘Jesus’ me in one way or another - I’ve had quite enough of that over the years, thank you very much.
Not that it’s really any of your business, of course, but I’m ‘here’ because I am really rather interested in the consequences of what people believe.
Since it seems highly unlikely that any kind of dialog is possible, I think it might be best if we just ignored one another, don’t you?
I’m sure you’ll be able to find another Jewish poster for such dialogs.
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qui_est_ce
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The OP is looking to learn more about Judasim from a Jewish source and dialog about it. She is not Googling Jewish sites, because she is not sure if the results wouldn’t include false or anti-Jewish rhetoric. Kaninchen provided some good links. Those links raised a few more questions. 
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Valke2
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There were no prophets that arose after Malalchi. When I said there were prophets that were not mentioned in the texts, I was referring to prophets preceeding this time period. Jewish tradition holds that only prophets who’s words were applicable to future generations, as opposed to their generation only, had their words recorded. As for the Kings 13 reference, if I recall that prophet was really more of a cheap “will my cows survive the winter” type prophet.
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Valke2
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btw, I am likely wrong that Malachi was the last prophet (his book was the last but he probably preceed Zacharia. According to Wikipedia, he was probably 445BCE.
THe Book of Kings was probably written or established orally no later than 6th century BCE.
So prophets mentioned in Kings would be prophets that preceeded Malachi (and Zach)
THe Book of Kings was probably written or established orally no later than 6th century BCE.
So prophets mentioned in Kings would be prophets that preceeded Malachi (and Zach)
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Lapell
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What do you mean by that? “A cheap ‘will my cows survive this winter’ type prophet”?
I am not familiar with the way Jews would classify and nickname their heroes (Priests, Prophets, Judges, community leaders and saints, tsaddikim, rabbis, seers…)
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Lapell
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From what i understand, he tried successfully to make the man of God from Judea transgress the instructions of God that the latter had received… I believe he thought that in doing so, the curse would not take effect. But then, when the lion killed the man of God, it didn’t do anything else to him and did not touch the donkey, and when the prophet of Samaria (I think) saw this he realized it was a sign for the Kingdom of Israel that what the man of God predicted will take place. So he washed the body in his home and asked his servant that when he,the prophet of Samaria, would die, to please bury him in the same tomb as the man of God from Judea. This is how I remember the scene. (I happen to have fallen on that passage a number of times at one point in my life, that’s how I came to remember it well enough.)
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wisdomseeker
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i am curious to know more about judaism. so i asked the question.
why Israel has not had any other prophet after AD? do you know anything about it?
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Sepharad
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One could ask Christians the same question.
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wisdomseeker
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i do not understand why my question put you guys in a defensive mood.
could be because it makes you guys think about Jesus being the True Messiah?
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