Well like I said you gotta push pretty hard to get this out of them. But if you ask them about how Joseph Smith founded the LDS church, you will eventually get to “God” telling him that ALL churches were an abomination to him. Plus, it’s in the Book of Mormon. Actually it’s in the first few books. It’s not something that is advertised or really talked about with others, because it ruins their attempts to become more like mainstream Christianity.
ContraFool said:
Contra…it is quite possible. I have a very dear friend (she is one of my best friends) who is a Jehovah’s Witness. You’d never know it unless we talked religion. There are points we agree on, and much more we don’t. I pray for her conversion every day (she was born into the organization-- and yesterday during a conversation, she did call it just that, not her faith, but their organization).
I just suggest you pray for her (you probably already are). JW’s aren’t supposed to associate with anyone outside of their faith…it could mean excommunication for them. We both realized that we cannot convert each other…so we tend to stay away from these religious discussions…so prayer is the only thing left
True as far as it goes, but you hae too remember two things.
No, I wouldn’t necessarily say your friend is a bad example of mainstream Mormonism, although possible. My best friends are a Mormon family, and I know there are some Mormon teachings that they don’t know about. The LDS religion, has several beliefs (so I have heard) that are hidden even from their own faithful. As far as church history, they all get it in high school and in college (at an LDS college), but it has a HUGE LDS spin on it. It is possible that maybe your friend isn’t a “die hard” Mormon though.
In my research on false religions, they all operate with much the same techniques. How much do most people know about Mormon beliefs, Scientology, Jehovah Witnesses, Muslims, the New Age, etc., unless a person decides to do research. Many of these groups, such as the Mormons, keep many of their beliefs as secret as possible. In this way they can slowly indoctrinate unsuspecting individuals. It’s the old frog in the pot story. If you put a frog in a pot of boiling water, he’ll jump out. But if you put him in a pot of cold water and slowly turn up the heat, he’ll stay in it and cook himself. Many people don’t know much about Mormon beliefs when they are so called “baptized” as new converts. Mormon “missionaries” are taught high pressure sales techniques. There are six “missionary” lessons they give when people first inquire about the Mormons. By the second or third lesson, the “missionaries” will try to get a person to commit to being “baptized”, when they are not aware of most of Mormonisms wierd teachings. Mormon “missionaries” call this “milk before meat”. Or, better stated, the plausible before the ludicrous. Mormons themselves, not just the “missionaries” are also taught to follow this technique. They know how to make themselves appear Christian on the surface, while not letting a new investigator on to any of the weird stuff they believe in. When asked about these weirder beliefs, they will either deny them or act as they know nothing about them when they really do.
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I would be very suprised if they were. I was baptized a JW as a teenager and I was taught and believed that Jesus was NOT divine. The Holy Spirit was also NOT God. But, like Mormons if you ask JW’s if they believe, for example that “Jesus died for their sins” they will say yes - however their understanding of Jesus is totally different from yours. So as far as the dictionary saying that “Christian” is anyone who follows Christ… that might work for Webster, but I’m not sure it’s the way God defines Christian.Do any of you know if JW baptisms are recognized by The Church (CC, of course!) Wondering, since Mormon ones are not.