Are there any Catholic theologions that fully understand the last book of the bible ?

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All that is symbolic ,from the loaf’s of bread ,to the fishes on the side of the boat ,the making of wine, to the numbers being preached to ,when the the bible Say’s they were killed by the 10 ,to the ten horn on the beast ,Sea is foul water Christ walks on the water 10 is NUMBER IN GERMATRIA. The first book in the bible is full of germ atria. The wheels a rolling Christ will give you real water. 4 horned beast is a earth no. It’s all hidden for you to find ,if you want to find it. WALT Some will see but will not see.but watch where you put your feet, watch the @#$%

freesoulhope you mentioned dan. what number dan. give a number.
 
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There is no forbidden truth; in the bible, it is there for those to see. Some will see, but not see, some will hear ,but not hear, but it is there for those that will see, and those that will hear.
 
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freesoulhope:
Why? …so you can tell them there is no bible code?!! :rolleyes:

What i believe to be a bible code, might be considerably different to what your assuming it to be. I believe revelations is a symbolic code of what is to occur in the future, that is standard thinking.

People use Symbolic code or story telling, in place of literal events, to hide something that should not be seen by enemys.

Or,… it could be that somebody will make a short fictional tale based on reality, only so that it can be understood and passed on to other generations.

The first example is what i call a code( hiding the truth behind symbolic ideas).

An attemped to decipher this code, is to be understood as somebody trying to find “meaning” behind the “symbols”( thats if its symbols are ment to be looked at in this fashion).

Its my understanding that “Revelations” is not to be looked at in a literal fashion. There-fore its a code hiding a literal reality. I want to know what that literal reality is. (unless its forbbiden)

However the gemantra is new to me, im still wondering if its a genuiene technique. Im reluctant to except it, with out first studying its origons.
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Everyone know Revelation is not a book to be taken literally. That’s nothing new.
A writing which should not be taken literally but symbolically does not mean there is a mathematical code behind it. How can you make a leap like that?
From your other threads where you say you believe in aliens and ufo’s I can see how you could be taken in by this other fanatical poster on codes but just be careful. Don’t spend 35 years like he has on this one book in the Bible. Read all the Bible but if you want to focus on something let it be the Gospels.
 
thistle you know not of what you speakyou say-----From your other threads where you say you believe in aliens and **ufo’s ** I can see how you could be taken in by this other fanatical poster on codes but just be careful. Don’t spend 35 years like he has on this one book in the Bible. Read all the Bible but if you want to focus on something let it be the Gospels.

This is perfectly rediculous,know body ,is talking about ,aliens and ufo’s you could not have read the past postings to make a ridiculous statement like that, as for the 35 years ,I spent time in the old test , the new test ,and revelations ,You have to know the old and the new to under stand that there is a gematria that was used in the numbering system in revelations :sleep:

You my friend are completely uninformed

You are the reason that this has been lost, for close to 2000 years
Do some reserch befor you make statments like that. :bible1:
 
thistle

By the way who was talking about ufo’s ,I seemed to have missed that give me a thread no.WALT
 
thistle
Give me a little more on your bio. Have you read Revelations at all?
Not to be smart, but just to let us know where your coming from.

Freesoulhope do you know why he is talking to you like that?
 
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thistle
Give me a little more on your bio. Have you read Revelations at all?
Not to be smart, but just to let us know where your coming from.

Freesoulhope do you know why he is talking to you like that?
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I made a thread once about, ufos. I was discussing the possibilitys, the pitfulls, and the promise of such things existing. I was in no way suggesting that they where real, i just like the idea that there are other living beings (other then angels) in the universe.

I was also trying to find out about the face on mars( i didnt no if it was real or not, but it would be strange if it was) they affirmed that it was a fake( which is fare enough). Maybe it was a bit gullible of me, to think it was a “possibility” but in no way did i present it as truth.

I wasn’t trying to prove the existents of a face on mars or the existence of aliens. I was just asking hypothetical Qeustions, in regards to how the church would deal with such things. Then people started taking the ‘#;!.@#’!/#’, so the moderator shut down the thread. (im not sure if it was becuase of my qeustions, or if it was because they where being uncharitable)
 
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walt2000:
thistle
bibleufo.com/subjects.htm
is this what your talking about. WALT
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I dont like this site :mad: , its trying to present God as a physical being. And it is also trying to say that we are munipulated by aliens :bigyikes: . This is a very misleading site, it Sounds like that film called “Prince of darkness” where these people find out that all the beings talked about in the bible are actually physical entities. :mad: They Offer no evidence, other then thier interpretation of scripture.I often thought that Ezekiel was a wittness to a ufo, but if the church says no it wasnt, it was an angel,(it is presented as an angel in scripture) then i except it as an angel.

People often think that No technology and No science = ignorance. It is not true, Im sure they could tell the difference between a Physical mechanical Object, and a spiritual being.

They where just as advanced in there thinking as we are to day. Somebody can be inteligent and wise, and not have clue how to builed a house or lead people. They where more wiser then we are today, they just didnt care much for science, because they relied on God for healing and wisdom, there faith was in God).

I went through a phase, where i thought God was physical, but that is because of Morden science. I also had a freind (some kind of prodestant) who believed that God was physical, but it all sounds like deception to me. I also found a site that claims that there was a mariam apparition that said that the ufos are deceptions of the devil. And although im intrested in ufo, I rebuke any idea that would contradict the bible and the churches teachings, including mary. :mad:

I refuse to except the possibility, but it is possible that God may have created physical beings to serve some purpose, and they may have been involved in some historical events( they might have been involved on a evolutionary scale). But thats as far as it goes for me, before heresy starts screaming in to my ears! 😃
 
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thistle you know not of what you speakyou say-----From your other threads where you say you believe in aliens and **ufo’s ** I can see how you could be taken in by this other fanatical poster on codes but just be careful. Don’t spend 35 years like he has on this one book in the Bible. Read all the Bible but if you want to focus on something let it be the Gospels.

This is perfectly rediculous,know body ,is talking about ,aliens and ufo’s you could not have read the past postings to make a ridiculous statement like that, as for the 35 years ,I spent time in the old test , the new test ,and revelations ,You have to know the old and the new to under stand that there is a gematria that was used in the numbering system in revelations :sleep:

You my friend are completely uninformed

You are the reason that this has been lost, for close to 2000 years
Do some reserch befor you make statments like that. :bible1:
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You should have read my post more carefully. I never said you had anything to do with aliens and ufo’s. I was talking about freesoulhope. He believes in those things which is why I reckon he’s easily sucked into your strange ideas about a code.
 
Thistle. And you didnt read my new post, explaining exactly what i believe. :tsktsk: It is you that said i believe in ufo. I dont Know if they exist, im mearly open to the “possiblity” that they do. Why is that a bad thing? :confused:
 
Thistle
This is not new, it’s as old as the firist writing, of the letters before it was set in the bible, as we know it to day.newton was trying to figure it out.
 
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walt2000:
freesoulhope
do you believe in aliens and UFOs
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Freesoulhope started a thread about a face on the planet Mars.
I said there are no faces or statues on Mars.
Below was his resposnse:

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First of all, you need evidence to say that. Two, you never been to mars. Three, what is rationality that you would call sombody irational for thinking there was statues on mars? decieved maybe, even ignorant, But not irational. If evidence was shown to me that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that there is in fact no statues on mars, then it would not be rational for me to keep on believing that there was. There for Knowing the truth all depends on me knowing for a fact that there are no statues on mars.

Theres nothing wrong with believing as long is it holds to reason, It is reasonable to assume that mars may have been a planet with an atmosphere, that could have supported bacterial life forms. We might dig there one day and find buried bodys of ancient alien races. Whats wrong with believing that to be a possibility? Innocent untill proven guilty.
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He is talking about a book that** david hatcher childress ** wrote on extraterrestrial archeologythey took some pictures of mars, and the way the light hits the ground ,it doe’s look like a face is looking up at you. there is also some geometric lines, but I would have to see more proof to get me interested, I read the book, and I think their stretching it, a bit ,not saying that it doe’ not exist but Iii need more proof. WALT
 
Hay GOD is every where. why not mars?
WALT But that is off our thread, but intresting anyway.
 
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walt2000:
freesoulhope
do you believe in aliens and UFOs
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Im intrested in them, i would like to meet one( but i dont live my life through a belief in them).

I dont know if they are real 😦 Theres been so many sightings and pictures (some of them fake! :mad: This seriouly damages the case, if they are real ) but im not sure of the implications that such a belief in them would have on Christianity. Thats why i asked the qeustion, about mars. I dont want to anger God.

Even if there is no such thing as ufos, there must be something going on? :hmmm: why would all those people lie? surley some of them where telling the truth about what they “thought” they saw?

I cannot say that they are real, or devote my self seriously to it. But i do search the web sights now and again, out of “intrest” 🙂 . I try to stay away from the ones that claim God is a ufo. :mad: :tsktsk: 👋
 
By the way Walt, did you get that book i sent you about bible future? If you did, what do you think of it? is it rubbish? :confused:
 
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thistle:
Freesoulhope started a thread about a face on the planet Mars.
I said there are no faces or statues on Mars.
Below was his resposnse:

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First of all, you need evidence to say that. Two, you never been to mars. Three, what is rationality that you would call sombody irational for thinking there was statues on mars? decieved maybe, even ignorant, But not irational. If evidence was shown to me that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that there is in fact no statues on mars, then it would not be rational for me to keep on believing that there was. There for Knowing the truth all depends on me knowing for a fact that there are no statues on mars.

Theres nothing wrong with believing as long is it holds to reason, It is reasonable to assume that mars may have been a planet with an atmosphere, that could have supported bacterial life forms. We might dig there one day and find buried bodys of ancient alien races. Whats wrong with believing that to be a possibility? Innocent untill proven guilty.
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Thistle, Thistle, Thistle! :tsktsk: Its true i did say those things, so whats your point? There where other posts that you convineintly excluded.
 
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