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mark_a
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For religious reasons?
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jesusluv
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I know the church I came out of for the most part does. It doesn’t require it’s members to abastain but the pastor and his wife do. I was charismatic/pentecostal.
If you go buy The Makers Diet from a book store, the author gives you good scientific reasons for abstaining if you are thinking about it.
If you go buy The Makers Diet from a book store, the author gives you good scientific reasons for abstaining if you are thinking about it.
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mercygate
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mark a:
Seventh Day Adventists
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silverwings_88
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mark a:
All’s I know are Messianic Jews and Seventh-Day Adventists, who are quite against Pork because of the old laws…
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mark_a
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Thanks folks.
I know a couple of people at work who won’t eat pork, but they are tight-lipped about their theology.
I know a couple of people at work who won’t eat pork, but they are tight-lipped about their theology.
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coyote
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Since I have limited funds and limited time, can you just tell us what these scientific reasons are?
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Ryniev
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I tend to shy away from pork just because pigs disgust me! One of my best friends is Jewish (reformed) and she loves the stuff.
But I digress…
But I digress…
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carol_marie
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My friend grew up in the World Wide Church of God religion and they had rules against pork & shellfish. I believe her church, having become much more mainstream, has backed away from those beliefs but she continues to avoid pork & shellfish because she personally believes God must’ve had a good reason to ask the Jews not to eat those foods.
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Semper_Fi_1
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I try not to eat pork, not for religious reasons, but because I personally think it’s disgusting, although I do have ham and bacon once in a while. Health = good and is also good for your spiritual development.
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Semper_Fi_1
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carol marie:
2,000 years ago, I believe there were good reasons. It was a lot tougher to be sure if food was fully cooked, and free from disease. However, as our cooking methods got better, I don’t think there’s much difference from eating any meats. But I still avoid it.
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flameburns623
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mark a:
- Seventh-day Adventists and a handful of other seventh-day proponents.
- Some of the surviving offshoots of the Worldwide Church of God. (The WWCoG itself has become more mainstream and I think they no longer advocate dietary restrictions).
- Some (but not all) Messianic Jewish groups.
- Some ‘Yahwistic’ sects and groups, most of these very small. These are groups which refer to God as ‘Yahweh’ or Jehovah’ and usually use the Hebrew form of the name of Jesus (Yeshu’a). Most are similar in theology to the Jehovah’s Witnesses, but the JW’s DO NOT abstain from pork.
- Some British Israelite groups. (Generally non-racialist groups which believe that some segment of the European population are descendent from the Lost Tribes of Israel–for convenience sake these would include Franko-Israelists, Spanish-Israelites, Germano-Israelites, Slavo-Israelites, and/or Pan-European Israelites).
- Some proponents of Christian Identity. (These would be racialist groups which also believe that some Europeans–or all of them–are descendent from the Lost Tribe, but who usually join this with great antipathy towards modern Jewish people, whom they deem interlopers and not true descendents of Abraham).
- Some Afro-Israelite groups. (Think of British Israelism centered on Africa rather than on Europe).
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flameburns623
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mark a:
Some of the Yahwistic groups are sort of insular and difficult to interact with. Those who belong to CI would not share their views with outsiders they did not trust, especially if you are not of an acceptable ‘race’. Same if they are Afro-Israelites. You’d be most likely to bump into members of one of those in the ‘de-ee–ee-p’ South. British Israelism has virtually died out I’m told.
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silverwings_88
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GASP BLASPHEMY!!
Pigs are one of the most cutest creatures God has ever made. I do like pork, but as a vegetarian I’m protecting myself from the factory farming that is so widespread for the masses.
Personally, I think that pigs are cute! ^___^
Oink!! :bounce:
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Malachi4U
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My Protestant uncle started his own church. He is a member of the non-denominational denomination. He eats NO pork but does consume great quantities of beer and smokes countless cancer sticks. He does not go to chruch on Sunday’s either since in his denomination church attendance is not required nor is it encouraged. You just have to read from the Bible and refrain from pork.
Oh yea, he is the only member of his denomination so I guess he’s his own preacher too?
Oh yea, he is the only member of his denomination so I guess he’s his own preacher too?
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ahimsaman72
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Semper Fi said:
Pigs naturally retain toxins in their flesh. They are scavengers by nature, so nasty toxins ingested by eating dead, diseased carcasses or whatever they find become naturally ingrained in the pig. Not to mention the fact that the pig flesh you buy in the stores (unless it is organic) has had chemicals and preservatives added that nature did not intend.
Of course, all this ends up in the human body when ingested and can cause real health problems. Plus, I find it pretty nasty stuff to eat
. Pork is the unhealthiest meat you can eat. I don’t let my kids eat it. If they want to eat meat, I give them Turkey or Chicken - preferably turkey because it is the healthiest with least adverse affects on the body.There’s a book called “What the Bible says about Healthy Living” which goes into detail about the Jewish dietary laws and other mentions of food in the Bible and the relevance for us today. You have to consider that if God commanded the Israelites to not eat pork, there’s a good reason for it.
I became vegetarian a year and a half ago and have felt much better - no persistent colds or chronic tiredness.
Peace…
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mark_a
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Maybe even his own Pope!!!My Protestant uncle started his own church. He is a member of the non-denominational denomination. He eats NO pork but does consume great quantities of beer and smokes countless cancer sticks. He does not go to chruch on Sunday’s either since in his denomination church attendance is not required nor is it encouraged. You just have to read from the Bible and refrain from pork.
Oh yea, he is the only member of his denomination so I guess he’s his own preacher too?
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carol_marie
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You make some valid points. I know a woman who has ovarian cancer. Chemo & radiation have not helped so she has sought an experiemental treatment in Europe. Her doctor has put her on a very strict diet and one of the things he said was NO PORK whatsoever - for the very reasons you stated. She was actually told to eat Kosher whenever possible… but the bulk of her diet is now organic fruits & vegtables. She doesn’t know if it’s helping the cancer - too early to tell I suppose - but she did admit that she feels very strong and attributes it to her now excellent diet.Pigs naturally retain toxins in their flesh. They are scavengers by nature, so nasty toxins ingested by eating dead, diseased carcasses or whatever they find become naturally ingrained in the pig. Not to mention the fact that the pig flesh you buy in the stores (unless it is organic) has had chemicals and preservatives added that nature did not intend.
Of course, all this ends up in the human body when ingested and can cause real health problems. Plus, I find it pretty nasty stuff to eat
There’s a book called “What the Bible says about Healthy Living” which goes into detail about the Jewish dietary laws and other mentions of food in the Bible and the relevance for us today. You have to consider that if God commanded the Israelites to not eat pork, there’s a good reason for it.
I became vegetarian a year and a half ago and have felt much better - no persistent colds or chronic tiredness.
Peace…
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ahimsaman72
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carol marie:
Once I learned about the dangers of pork, we started buying kosher meats. For example, before we switched to kosher we would buy “Ball Park” franks beef hot dogs. We found in the same section a kosher hot dog (can’t remember the name), and they still tasted very good. They still have nitrates in them which is not healthy, but it is at least a little better for you.
I believe there is a direct link between cancers and our diet/nutrition. I don’t have any scientific proof for that claim, but I can tell you that there are many people who did not choose to do traditional chemo, but instead opted for a diet/nutrition regimend. Those people had amazing results with a change in their diet. There are books you can browse in the alternative medicine section of the bookstore that discuss this issue.
We don’t realize (I personally didn’t either) harmful chemicals in our everyday foods and WATER SUPPLY. I don’t go around spouting about the evils of nitrates and antibiotics in meats and harmful chemicals in our tap water, but when speaking about the issue, I try to be honest. Most people don’t want to hear that the foods they ate growing up and continue to enjoy are in-fact silently killing them. Or, they feel like they are going to die anyway, so might as well die happy, right?
I’m glad the lady you know went to a doctor who suggested the alternative diet regimend. It might just save her life. If I ever contract a cancer (which I fear since I smoked for 10+ years and lived terribly), I will seek alternative methods rather than the traditional methods, specifically the diet methods. Chemotherapy is of course helpful to many people, but very risky. They have to tear your body down to kill the cancer cells. Some never make it.
The book I mentioned, “What the Bible Says About Healthy Living” is authored by Dr. Rex Russell. It is a really good, user-friendly book that sheds a lot of light on some of the things I’ve discussed here. I recommend it to you and anybody else who cares about their physical and mental health.
God be with you…
Peace.
Hello carol marie -
Once I learned about the dangers of pork, we started buying kosher meats. For example, before we switched to kosher we would buy “Ball Park” franks beef hot dogs. We found in the same section a kosher hot dog (can’t remember the name), and they still tasted very good. They still have nitrates in them which is not healthy, but it is at least a little better for you.
I believe there is a direct link between cancers and our diet/nutrition. I don’t have any scientific proof for that claim, but I can tell you that there are many people who did not choose to do traditional chemo, but instead opted for a diet/nutrition regimend. Those people had amazing results with a change in their diet. There are books you can browse in the alternative medicine section of the bookstore that discuss this issue.
We don’t realize (I personally didn’t either) harmful chemicals in our everyday foods and WATER SUPPLY. I don’t go around spouting about the evils of nitrates and antibiotics in meats and harmful chemicals in our tap water, but when speaking about the issue, I try to be honest. Most people don’t want to hear that the foods they ate growing up and continue to enjoy are in-fact silently killing them. Or, they feel like they are going to die anyway, so might as well die happy, right?
I’m glad the lady you know went to a doctor who suggested the alternative diet regimend. It might just save her life. If I ever contract a cancer (which I fear since I smoked for 10+ years and lived terribly), I will seek alternative methods rather than the traditional methods, specifically the diet methods. Chemotherapy is of course helpful to many people, but very risky. They have to tear your body down to kill the cancer cells. Some never make it.
The book I mentioned, “What the Bible Says About Healthy Living” is authored by Dr. Rex Russell. It is a really good, user-friendly book that sheds a lot of light on some of the things I’ve discussed here. I recommend it to you and anybody else who cares about their physical and mental health.
God be with you…
Peace.
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mark_a
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“Hebrew National” Their slogan is"We answewr to a higher Authority"
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ahimsaman72
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mark a said:
HA!! That’s it, Mark! It’s been a while since I bought them. It’s been approximately 2 years now. They were pretty good I think!
Peace…
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