Are there any Protestants that abstain from pork?

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Years ago, my wifes ex-husband picked up the kids for weekend visitation. When they returned, my youngest step-son was crying his eyes out. When we asked him what the problem was he said “I’m going to hell”. When we asked him why, he said it was because we ate ham at our house. (His father had joined the SDAs) We finally had to get our lawyer to send a letter to his father, explaining that we were taking care of his religious training, and to keep his personal beliefs to himself. After several talks with mininsters, he finally got over it. What a time we had. The boy just joined the Catholic church last Easter. Praise God!
 
Does anybody out there think that it would be okay for me, as a Catholic, to abstain from pork for health reasons, and would it be okay for a Catholic to eat kosher hot dogs, at least check them out?

Thank you!🙂
 
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GoLatin:
Does anybody out there think that it would be okay for me, as a Catholic, to abstain from pork for health reasons, and would it be okay for a Catholic to eat kosher hot dogs, at least check them out?

Thank you!🙂
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I don’t know why not. I don’t believe there is any church law that says we have to eat pork. But there is one that says we have to love to play Bingo. (joke)
 
My have a coworker who is an Advantist and doesn’t eat pork because it’s uncleaned. I reminded him that we’re living in the New Convenent.
 
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davy39:
Years ago, my wifes ex-husband picked up the kids for weekend visitation. When they returned, my youngest step-son was crying his eyes out. When we asked him what the problem was he said “I’m going to hell”. When we asked him why, he said it was because we ate ham at our house. (His father had joined the SDAs) We finally had to get our lawyer to send a letter to his father, explaining that we were taking care of his religious training, and to keep his personal beliefs to himself. After several talks with mininsters, he finally got over it. What a time we had. The boy just joined the Catholic church last Easter. Praise God!
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It’s too bad you had to go through that.

The SDA’s believe that eating pork will send you to hell. There are some verses in Isaiah that they use to further this doctrine. Beef, chicken, turkey, etc do not apply to this belief. I don’t remember the verses since it’s been years since I’ve read them.

Congrats on the boy joining the Church!

Peace…
 
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ahimsaman72:
… You have to consider that if God commanded the Israelites to not eat pork, there’s a good reason for it.
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there was probably a good reason that God told peter that he was allowed to eat animals that were once considered unclean. i don’t eat much pork (or meat for that matter) but it is a matter of taste, not religious reasons and those that do it for religious reasons are putting undue burdens on themselves and others. just not allowed to eat animals sacrificed to other gods…that’s all i see in the new testatment (or strangled animals).
 
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silverwings_88:
All’s I know are Messianic Jews and Seventh-Day Adventists, who are quite against Pork because of the old laws…
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In Genesis didnt God say after He made all things (including piggys) and He saw that they were good??? NOW, piggys are bad???
 
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bengal_fan:
there was probably a good reason that God told peter that he was allowed to eat animals that were once considered unclean. i don’t eat much pork (or meat for that matter) but it is a matter of taste, not religious reasons and those that do it for religious reasons are putting undue burdens on themselves and others. just not allowed to eat animals sacrificed to other gods…that’s all i see in the new testatment (or strangled animals).
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Go back and read that passage of Scripture. It is much more about gentiles and jews than clean vs. unclean meats. And then go ask an Orthodox Jew whether the Mosaic law is still binding or not. I would gather that they would quickly tell you that God’s laws to the Israelites were forever.

Peace…
 
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StMarkEofE:
In Genesis didnt God say after He made all things (including piggys) and He saw that they were good??? NOW, piggys are bad???
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That’s being overly simplistic and very general. God explicitly stated that the Israelites were to not eat the flesh of pigs. That’s very specific. God also said that he gave man all the fruits of the trees for food - not animals. It wasn’t till after the flood that God specifically gave man the permission to eat all things - animals and plants. It’s all there in the Bible.

Peace…
 
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ahimsaman72:
The SDA’s believe that eating pork will send you to hell. There are some verses in Isaiah that they use to further this doctrine. Beef, chicken, turkey, etc do not apply to this belief. I don’t remember the verses since it’s been years since I’ve read them…
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I suppose that some of the very-strict Seventh-day Adventists believe that eating pork will send you to hell, but it is not an official doctrine. Officially, they encourage a healthy lifestyle and believe that God intended the prohibition against unclean animals to remain in force. They actually believe that vegetarianism is the diet most beneficial, that it is the way God originally designed human beings to eat. I don’t agree with them, but I think it is a good idea to be fairminded about what they actually teach.
 
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flameburns623:
I suppose that some of the very-strict Seventh-day Adventists believe that eating pork will send you to hell, but it is not an official doctrine. Officially, they encourage a healthy lifestyle and believe that God intended the prohibition against unclean animals to remain in force. They actually believe that vegetarianism is the diet most beneficial, that it is the way God originally designed human beings to eat. I don’t agree with them, but I think it is a good idea to be fairminded about what they actually teach.
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Ellen G. White never officially declared it or the other original leadership. But, the SDA church where I grew up taught the doctrine and they used specific verses to support it. It’s all part of the bigger plan for the end times. The SDA I have known showed me the following verse and likened it to the end of the world. Those who were eating pigs and rats - the wicked. Those who abstained - righteous. Here are the verses and the link to read the entire passage:
Isaiah 66:17
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17 “Those who consecrate and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following the one in the midst of a] those who eat the flesh of pigs and rats and other abominable things—they will meet their end together,” declares the LORD.

biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=29&chapter=66&version=31
 
Really I don’t know what all the fuss is about food. Didn’t Jesus disallow this by saying, ‘it is not what goes into the body,’ rather what comes out of it. Ok some might say he was speaking in parable. On the other hand if the OT really meant for this regarding some health issues which I don’t believe then the Asians should have gotten extinct long time. The Chinese eat rats and virtually anything as well as do most other Asian countries, and yet live longer than their counterparts in countries where strict diets are observed. The Japanese minus eating rats and snakes are amongst the list of the’ longest living.’ So it really refutes the health issue claim.

From a first hand experience I have been eating pigs or pork all my life as it’s the most important part of our culture and feasting, and to be honest I have never been sick or had a stomach illness for the last ten years. At the same time my 7th Day Adventist and Muslims friends always get sick and complain about something they might have eaten and what not. My other friends who are not religious but prefer less meat than veggies in their diet contract the flu even more frequently.

Btw why are other animals regarded as clean as if they sleep in clean beds as most of us do and live in clean rooms and houses? Don’t they all consume what is on the earth’s surface as well as we do? Homeless people surely surpass the lives of the fortunate ones who had a choice of food away from pork and yet die young because of stomach illnesses, cancer ……… etc. Just think of the scrap and the **** they have to take!
 
pork fat is a wonderful thing just as long as you don’t overdue it. pig roasts rule too. scrapple and porkroll and salami are the best. i think life would be pretty dull if we couldn’t eat our friend the pig.

as an aside, i’ve heard that since pigs like us are omnivours, we like the pigs have white meat when cooked. i’ve also heard that since bears are related to pigs, they have white meat as well. so maybe people didn’t eat pig because they taste like human meat. i hope that isn’t true because we would be delicious.
 
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sainted:
Really I don’t know what all the fuss is about food. Didn’t Jesus disallow this by saying, ‘it is not what goes into the body,’ rather what comes out of it. Ok some might say he was speaking in parable. On the other hand if the OT really meant for this regarding some health issues which I don’t believe then the Asians should have gotten extinct long time. The Chinese eat rats and virtually anything as well as do most other Asian countries, and yet live longer than their counterparts in countries where strict diets are observed. The Japanese minus eating rats and snakes are amongst the list of the’ longest living.’ So it really refutes the health issue claim.
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I haven’t heard of Japanese eating rats, but I have heard of Chinese doing it. Have a source that Japanese eat rats in their cuisine?
 
Hi Semper Fi,
I’m really sorry if my wording got you mistaken. No Japanese don’t eat rats, snakes, dogs, cats and horses. The dog though is very delicious in Korea but from properly farm-bred. Hasn’t anyone heard the chinese belief that any living creature that has its back facing the sun is edible? Really that’s almost everything!

Btw my culture’s only edible meat: beef, pork, chicken and lamb.
 
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flameburns623:
I suppose that some of the very-strict Seventh-day Adventists believe that eating pork will send you to hell, but it is not an official doctrine. … I don’t agree with them, but I think it is a good idea to be fairminded about what they actually teach.
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Flameburns,
As an Adventist for 29 years, I can assure you it is most certainly a doctrine. Fundamental Belief#22 states “…Along with adequate exercise and rest, we are to adopt the most healthful diet possible and abstain from the unclean foods identified in the Scriptures.” "http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/fundamental/index.html

Furthermore, the 10th baptismal vow of SDA’s states “10. Do you believe that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit; and will you honor God by caring for it, avoiding the use of that which is harmful; abstaining from all unclean foods; from the use, manufacture, or sale of alcoholic beverages; the use, manufacture, or sale of tobacco in any of its forms for human consumption; and from the misuse of or trafficking in narcotics or other drugs?”

SDA’s expand on this more in the book “Adventist’s Believe…” which is published by the church to define and explain the SDA Doctrines. An online version can be found at SDANet.Org and the link regarding unclean foods is here in this section: sdanet.org/atissue/books/27/27-21.htm

While being a vegetarian is not part of the Church doctrine, but only a recommendation, refraining from eating “unclean foods” such as pork, shrimp, crab, etc. is a requirement of the church.

Peace to all!
Merry Christmas!
Brandon
 
carol marie:
My friend grew up in the World Wide Church of God religion and they had rules against pork & shellfish. I believe her church, having become much more mainstream, has backed away from those beliefs but she continues to avoid pork & shellfish because she personally believes God must’ve had a good reason to ask the Jews not to eat those foods.
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God doesn’t need a good reason to ask anything of us. We need to do it just because He said so. Circumcision doesn’t really have any logical reasoning behind it other than God wanted His people to be separated from the pagans. Likewise with the prohibition against tattooing. Adam & Eve sinned because they ate of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. God didn’t have to say why they couldn’t eat of the tree; He just said, “Don’t do it!” I think modern Christians try to rationalize these things too much. That being said, there’s no good reason to abstain from pork especially considering St. Peter’s revelation on the matter.
 
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