Are there any saints who died with baptism of desire

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I am going to have to read more about the Holy Innocents now that you brought it up. Its a fascinating story from the gospel really of things that happened when Jesus was alive.
 
John the Baptist was a 1st-century mission preacher on the banks of the River Jordan. He baptized Jews for repentance in the River Jordan. At the start of his ministry, Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.

Its interesting to note that even Jesus was baptized and submitted to god in this manner because he was able to.
 
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I was raised by a Roman Catholic mother who left the church because someone refused to baptize my eldest sister because she wasn’t attending church regularly.
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You mean that your mom wasn’t attending Mass, and therefore the priest wouldn’t baptize your sister, right?

That was much more common in the past, and it seems harsh, but I think that we can understand it in light of the requirements on the priest with respect to baptism. Canon law advises that “there must be a founded hope that the infant will be brought up in the Catholic religion; if such hope is altogether lacking, the baptism is to be delayed according to the prescripts of particular law after the parents have been advised about the reason.”

So, if we’re looking at the practice of priests in the past, and trying to be charitable, then we might consider that when they said, “you don’t go to church, so I won’t baptize your baby”, then what they really meant was “if you’re not going to church yourself, I can’t see how you are going to raise your child in the practice of the Catholic faith.”

In a different age, it might have been phrased differently, and in ways that sound harsh to our 21st century ears…
 
MaryClare said:
John the Baptist was a 1st-century mission preacher on the banks of the River Jordan. He baptized Jews for repentance in the River Jordan. At the start of his ministry, Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.
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Yep. This was the context of the discussion, upthread.

The question being asked was whether the baptism that John administered to Jesus and others was itself a sacramental baptism (like the baptism that Christ instituted). I was surprised to see that there were some folks, historically, in the Church, who asserted this.
Its interesting to note that even Jesus was baptized and submitted to god in this manner because he was able to.
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The teaching that I’ve always seen is that Jesus didn’t need to repent, but submitted to baptism on behalf of His people for whom He was about to give His life.
 
Yes my mother wasn’t attending church at all but wanted her kids baptized. I understand where the priest was coming from and dont hold it against him. My mom does though and has never let it go and wont return to church because she was hurt so much by things he said to her.
 
Anyway, what I was trying to say is, no, there is a difference between the baptism of John, and the baptism after Jesus came.
 
MaryClare said:
she was hurt so much by things he said to her.
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Yep. Unfortunately, that happens occasionally. Sometimes, priests are having a bad day. Sometimes, priests say things in ways that aren’t helpful. Sometimes, priests are misinterpreted. Most often, in these cases, people are really hurt by what they hear… 😦
 
I would like to point out that my mother and father when I was old enough and decided to become catholic, decided to take me every time I wanted to go even though the only service they ever attended was my entering the church at Easter. I was never barred from attending even though my dad is a Protestant and my mom a fallen away Catholic.
 
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