Are there subtle forms of Satanic worship?

[Little_One0307]

That’s funny! To demand citations from to support my views, but to refuse to back your claims up with citations, is lame!

And I am willing to back up my views which are in line with the Magisterium of the Catholic Church by God’s grace with citations, just after you provide yours. I think it’s fair, in fact you were the one who first asked me to cite my citations. Why should I cite mine, when clearly you are not citing yours. That’s just not the etiquette of debate.

How about reading the post next time before hitting the reply button?

I quote from my post. - As always the Emphasis is mine.

Mine are there, you just got to go looking for them in the Church documents. When I see that ample and good documentation has been provided, I in a turn of good faith will provide mine, though you could start with the CCC, the Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, ohhh Dei Verbum, and some other documents that I cannot think off the top of my head.

I think that should be quite obvious now.

Oh and the CCC stands for the Catechism of the Catholic Church before you start telling me that there is no source document called CCC.

Have a great day and God bless.

 

[Robert_Sock]

And I am willing to back up my views which are in line with the Magisterium of the Catholic Church by God’s grace with citations, just after you provide yours. I think it’s fair, in fact you were the one who first asked me to cite my citations. Why should I cite mine, when clearly you are not citing yours. That’s just not the etiquette of debate.

How about reading the post next time before hitting the reply button?

I quote from my post. - As always the Emphasis is mine.

I think that should be quite obvious now.

Oh and the CCC stands for the Catechism of the Catholic Church before you start telling me that there is no source document called CCC.

Have a great day and God bless.

That’s hardly a quote, or too specific of a citation!!!

 

[Little_One0307]

That’s hardly a quote!!!

Wow the point was missed again. Let me spell this out really carefully, the red part of the quote are the citations, but I am guessing that you don’t really want to put the work in looking them up becuase it just might be different from what you are promulgating here in this thread and secondly, it just might be too much work to provide your own citations seeing I don’t really think there are any that would support your position in the first place. But you are welcome to prove me wrong, by providing the citations like I asked for in the first place.

So obviously if one does not want to look up the citations and does not want to post their citiations, then I guess the just go ahead and post false arguments that have false conclusions which continue to draw comment from other posters.

And if that fails, then let that one just attack the other person because oh my goodness, the person had the AUDACITY to ask for citations before getting other person’s citation.

God bless.

 

[Usagi]

Robert,

If you have been called to a life of contemplation, that’s wonderful, and I hope you will devote some of your prayers to the rest of us here.

However, the Church is clear that, while everyone is called to holiness, not all are called to grow in holiness in the same way. The vast majority of Christians must live out their lives in the world and attend to various worldly duties. They will also, at times, engage in recreation, as God permits and indeed commands.

The lesson of the contemplatives is that it is possible to devote one’s entire life to God and attain amazing levels of mystical union with Him. This is an important way of life and an example to the rest of us.

On the other hand, the lesson of life in the world is that most anything can be done for God’s glory. Work and even play can be sanctified by the attitude of the persons involved. I’m told that in some Catholic schools of a certain era, pupils were instructed to open every written assignment with the initials A.M.D.G. (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam, or “To the greater glory of God”) as a reminder to themselves that even schoolwork could be dedicated to the Lord.

Both types of life are important and vital in God’s world, just as both married and celibate life are. The less wordly calling in each case may in some sense be the “higher” of the two, but that doesn’t mean that God desires everyone to pursue the same type of spirituality.

Usagi

 

[Corki]

That’s funny! To demand citations from to support my views, but to refuse to back your claims up with citations, is lame!

No need to get mean.

Let’s start with Gaudium et Spes

Opportunities for the same education are to be found also in the societies of today, due especially to the increased circulation of books and to the new means of cultural and social communication which can foster a universal culture. With the more or less generalized reduction of working hours, the leisure time of most men has increased. May this leisure be used properly to relax, to fortify the health of soul and body through spontaneous study and activity, through tourism which refines man’s character and enriches him with understanding of others, through sports activity which helps to preserve equilibrium of spirit even in the community, and to establish fraternal relations among men of all conditions, nations and races. Let Christians cooperate so that the cultural manifestations and collective activity characteristic of our time may be imbued with a human and a Christian spirit.

All these leisure activities however are not able to bring man to a full cultural development unless there is at the same time a profound inquiry into the meaning of culture and science for the human person.

 

[Little_One0307]

Robert,

Can you find any Mageisterial Teaching that supports that football is a form of Satanic worship and thus a sin? Oh and please find me some sources about video games being a form of Satanic worship as well.

I am really curious as to where you are drawing these conclusions from.

God bless.

I posted this quite a bit back in the thread, and your answer that you came up with was the below.

I’m basically coming up with these questions out of curiosity of what people think. And, yes, I do personally think that there are subtle forms of Satanic worship. I do tend to differ on a lot of issues here on CAF, but I think a lot of my questions act as food for thoughts. People who disagree on these things often have little or no proof of their position either.

Hardly a citation if not one at all.

That’s true. But I think I do gravitate towards a more holier and disciplined life than most.

I believe myself to be humble too!

Ummm question. And before I am lambasted with the following, I do not make the claim that I am humble, far from it. I got a long way to go. I know my posts are not representative of perfect humility that have been posted in the last few minutes, but then again I don’t remember claiming that I was humble and that I gravitated towards a more holier and discplined life than most.

But how are your last posts demonstrating that you are gravitating towards a more holier and disciplined life than most and how is it supporting your belief that you are humble.

So are you focusing on God while posting these, cuz if you are not then by your logic you are sublely worshipping Satan.

Humility is acknowledging the Truth. And what is Truth, that which is Divinely Revealed by God through Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradidtion, and the Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

God bless.

 

[Robert_Sock]

No need to get mean.

Let’s start with Gaudium et Spes

My deepest apologies if you took that as my being mean. Just stating my perspective.

All that document suggests is that recreational activity is advised. It says nothing as to the virtue of always keeping a part of your mind on the holiness of God. I never meant to imply that recreational activity is evil in and of itself.

Also, let me be clear that the purpose of my thread was to suggest the idea of subtle forms of Satanic worship. It was to be a topic for discussion, and my aim was to take it as far as I could. I never thought for one second thought that it would be proved one way or another, but I was hoping for more support from the CAF community. It seems that things have come down to 3 or so posters who are beginning to argue in circles. Everybody has their belief, and everyone their desired form of religious worship; you guys know mine!

 

[Little_One0307]

Everybody has their belief, and everyone their desired form of religious worship; you guys know mine!

And that belief is contradictory to the Magisterial Teachings of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

God bless.

 

[Robert_Sock]

The V’Ahavta
You shall love the L-rd your G-d with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your might. You shall take to heart these words which I command you this day. You shall teach them diligently to your children, speaking of them when you are at home and when you are away, when you lie down at night and when you rise up in the morning. You shall bind them as a sign upon your arm, and they shall be a reminder above your eyes. You shall inscribe them on the doorposts of your homes and on your gates.

 

[Neildown]

Question: Why do some users say L-rd instead of Lord? I don’t really see how this shows any respect to God - was just curious as to the reason.

 

[Robert_Sock]

Question: Why do some users say L-rd instead of Lord? I don’t really see how this shows any respect to God - was just curious as to the reason.

The V’Ahavta is a Jewish prayer that is taken from the Old Testament. L-rd or G-d is the Jewish way of spelling the names since they are forbidden to utter the name of God. It’s actually done out of respect!

 

[Robert_Sock]

And that belief is contradictory to the Magisterial Teachings of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

God bless.

Please provide a specific quote or citation!

 

[Little_One0307]

Please provide a specific quote or citation!

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I refuse to get into this for a -]third/-] now fourth time with you. If you provide ample citiations for your beliefs, errgh misconceptions, then I will gladly provide the citations for me. Oh and I am looking things up, and have quite a nice pile of citations on hand and looking for more.

But all you can do is post biblical verses and not even back them up by commentary or why you are posting them.

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Yeah I am having fun with my smileys too. Hard to get confrontational when smileys are looking back at me.

Once again to save time, I merely copied my response from another thread. You can’t give any citations that support your view, I am getting convinced of this more and more. And when you are given citations you just twist them into your twisted way of thinking. Several good posters have taken time out to try to help you with this, Corki, Thistle, and some others that I can name if I but go through the thread, but I don’t have time right now. My position is what’s the point of doing this, when you are not open to anything that others are saying? How about going and starting the Church of Robert Sock, because I see a propensity on your part just loving to promulgate your beliefs on here, which is fine, but don’t be surprised when they are not in line with the Church someone calls you for it. I really don’t see any good acts of faith on your part.

I have been responding these threads for quite awhile, and I ask myself why am I wasting my time, and the answer comes back, what if someone who was really looking for the Truth read one of your posts and got led astray. Not gonna happen on my watch, by the grace of God.

So what’s a Little One to do, all I can do is hammer away at the beliefs that you are stating as TRUTH, which they are not, so that others are not lead astray? Now granted the times you do post and there’s nothing wrong with it, I don’t say anything which there is a great deal of which I am thankful. At least you believe in God and Christ. That’s a start. And you know how to quote the bible, now let’s just work on learning what the Church Teaches in Sacred Scripture and The Magisterium.

Go and pick up Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Dr. Ludwig Ott. You have questions after reading the book or going through it with an open mind, I would love to discuss them with you.

God bless.