Are we already Damned?

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God created you beause He knew what a great gift life is. He isn’t the one who sends us to hell, it’s us. It’s our own decision on what we believe, because if God forced us to love Him, we wouldnt love Him as much as if we chooe to love Him on our own terms. One of my friends who was struggling with her faith once told me that she always thought you had to understand and then you would believe, but after an amazing youth retreat, she told me that she realized that first you believe and then you will understand. You have to remember that He created humans so that He could love us and we could love Him, and if all he wants is love, why would such a loving God send you to the worst place there is?
 
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We send ourselves to Hell. God gave Adam and Eve perfect free will, and they chose to disobey him for the temptation to “become” like God himself. As a result of our Original Sin that we all inherited from them, we also separate ourselves from God in sin, and the only ways we can go to heaven are:
  • be perfect (which is not possible)
  • have that sin atoned for by someone willing to pay the price for you.
Praise be to God for His plan of salvation in Christ
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IOW - where there is love of God, there is no Hell 🙂​

If we love God - which involves wanting to, and involves loving our neighbour, who is made by God in His own likeness, just like us - we can’t go there 😃

Saint Alphonsus Liguori is fantastically good on this whole subject. Father Faber’s “All for Jesus” is a very good corrective to what he calls “gloomy and low views” of God - he was an Oratorian, and this book proves it, because it overflows with joy. Apparently it was John XXIII’s bedside book. ##
 
I’ve received several answers that say we are sinners and it is our own fault that we are sinners. A few have said we have the ability to be perfect. Some have said that life is a great gift and an opportunity for us to love God. And it is so wonderful that Jesus sent His only Son to die for us.

Even I could be perfect and not sin, I would still suffer in this world. So not sinning does not buy you anything. Why is living in a suffering world such a great gift? Try telling that to a child born addicted to drugs, or a person suffering from starvation in a third world country, etc. I do have a great life but a good majority of the world does not and my heart aches for them and leads me to try to understand it all.

If God is ominicent and knew Adam and Eve were going to sin, why didn’t God just create us all in Heaven? Why am I punished because of Adam and Eve’s sins?

Still struggling…but nonetheless I still believe in a loving God for some reason…
 
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I’ve received several answers that say we are sinners and it is our own fault that we are sinners. A few have said we have the ability to be perfect. Some have said that life is a great gift and an opportunity for us to love God. And it is so wonderful that Jesus sent His only Son to die for us.

Even I could be perfect and not sin, I would still suffer in this world. So not sinning does not buy you anything. Why is living in a suffering world such a great gift? Try telling that to a child born addicted to drugs, or a person suffering from starvation in a third world country, etc. I do have a great life but a good majority of the world does not and my heart aches for them and leads me to try to understand it all.

If God is ominicent and knew Adam and Eve were going to sin, why didn’t God just create us all in Heaven? Why am I punished because of Adam and Eve’s sins?

Still struggling…but nonetheless I still believe in a loving God for some reason…
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***It’s through struggles such as these that we grow in faith. Praise God that you are keeping your eye on Him!! :amen: ***
God would not allow any suffering if He could not bring a greater good out of it than would otherwise have been. We can’t possibley know how that works in this life, but we can confidently know that it is true!!
God bless!
***Nancy 🙂 ***
 
Just one of my many difficulties with the faith, and with God.

First, God is all-powerful, what He does is good by definition. He can and does anything he wants to do.

If my year-old child were heading for a fire, I would pull him or her away from it. Sometimes I wonder whether God is a bad parent. Certainly he knows we can choose damnation but how can any human being have the foggiest realization of what damnation really is? And from Scripture it looks as if the vast majority of us are headed that way (See Matthew, about midway through Chapter 7).

Even if that is the way I am headed, I still thank God daily for having allowed me to participate in the ongoing miracle we call life. Even the damned witness the justice of God. Perhaps my destiny is to be the manure that fertilizes the flowering plants which attain salvation.
 
As some have said, God is omniscient (all-knowing) but this does not mean He removes our free will. God’s permissive will allows that we choose evil because He has given us free will. God does not refuse graces to sinners (even when He knows they will be damned), and they will suffer more greatly in Hell for the rejection of the graces they have received.
 
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