Are Your Traditional Catholic Beliefs a Source of Division Among Your Family and Friends?

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I recently admitted to my folks I have been attending the Traditional Latin Mass and they gave each other a weird look. Every time I bring it up, they look bothered, which is weird because that’s the Mass they grew up with. I have a bad feeling that this Mass alone is going to solicit some sort of critical reaction.

I have yet to meet a Catholic who is interested, much less happy, in knowing I have started going to the Latin Mass. My siblings make jokes like, “Well, now you have a good reason for falling asleep: you don’t even know what they are saying!”

I can’t imagine what their reaction will be if and when I start adopting some more traditional Catholic beliefs and customs. Anyone else run into this problem?
 
I recently admitted to my folks I have been attending the Traditional Latin Mass and they gave each other a weird look. Every time I bring it up, they look bothered, which is weird because that’s the Mass they grew up with. I have a bad feeling that this Mass alone is going to solicit some sort of critical reaction.
I would guess it’s a matter of how you bring it up more than anything else. I would further guess that consciously or subconsciously you are actually fishing for what you term a “critical reaction.” In fact I think you’re doing it with this very posting. That, or you want to commiserate with others who also wear the traditionalist badge.
I have yet to meet a Catholic who is interested, much less happy, in knowing I have started going to the Latin Mass. My siblings make jokes like, “Well, now you have a good reason for falling asleep: you don’t even know what they are saying!”
Who cares? Why ask? Are you trying to elicit certain responses? Don’t bring it up – you don’t need a pat on the back – just enjoy it.
I can’t imagine what their reaction will be if and when I start adopting some more traditional Catholic beliefs and customs. Anyone else run into this problem?
Like what? Wearing a chapel veil and speaking full time in Latin? My advice to you is to enjoy the EF and stop wandering around with your chin stuck out begging people to metaphorically smack you…
 
what are those “more traditional Catholic beliefs”?
I’m curious too as all Catholic “beliefs” must be identical. Dogma and Doctrine cannot be different for so-called traditionists and so-called liberals. We are members of the same Church with the same beliefs.
 
Duke – I am not what folks would call a Traditionalist. But I am a Catholic in good standing. Please let me say that as a Catholic I am more than happy that you are being drawn into a closer intimacy with Christ through the Mass in the Extraordinary Form. (Is that the right language to use? If not, please know I am not trying to be rude or mean or anything negative 🙂 )

I think that whenever anyone does something in their Spiritual Path to increase their walk with Christ they generally meet up with several typical responses from others.

The first is what you have already encountered – indifference or a demeaning response. The responses are from people that are unwilling to look at the move you are taking in your spiritual journey. Take heart and continue to drive on because there are lots of others that will encourage you and others that are at a similar or have been at a similar place and will give you great advice on how to continue your journey.

I hope I am at least on the encouragement team – peace.
 
I recently admitted to my folks I have been attending the Traditional Latin Mass and they gave each other a weird look. Every time I bring it up, they look bothered, which is weird because that’s the Mass they grew up with. I have a bad feeling that this Mass alone is going to solicit some sort of critical reaction.

I have yet to meet a Catholic who is interested, much less happy, in knowing I have started going to the Latin Mass. My siblings make jokes like, “Well, now you have a good reason for falling asleep: you don’t even know what they are saying!”

I can’t imagine what their reaction will be if and when I start adopting some more traditional Catholic beliefs and customs. Anyone else run into this problem?
Perhaps your “delivery” has something to do with it. Are you presenting your affection for the TLM in a joyful, loving way, expressing how you feel when attending?

Or, do you present your attendance at a TLM as being “better than their Mass”?

Much like our Protestant brothers and sisters asking you if you have “been saved”, it’s HOW you share your faith that turns people on or off to it.

TBL
 
Since I’m not particularly traditional and already my brothers both think I’m insane for having anything to do with the Church, I can only imagine what they’d think if I started going to an EF Mass and wearing a veil. Since the odds of having an EF Mass in my parish are about 100 to 1 against, I don’t think they have anything to worry about.

My friends would just be more confused than they already are about me and be even more unable to put me in a neat little box.
 
YES!
My mom is the eldest of 9, all of her siblings, and her parents belong to a group that broke away from the Church. My dad the youngest of five, one is Mormon, one was a good Catholic but he died, and the rest including his parents don’t practice anything.

My mom’s family considers us so liberal that they can hardly ever talk to us, and when they see us, if the girls are not wearing long skirts (down to our ankles), they won’t speak to my mom for months.
My dad’s family think that we are total trads and think we are ridiculous stick-in-the-muds because we insist on going to mass on Sundays, and don’t eat meat on Fridays.

98% of all people we meet think that we are ridiculous. My brothers are on soccer teams with mostly Catholic teammates and not one of the other families go to mass on Sundays when we travel despite the fact that we give them mass schedules and invite them to go with us. They don’t like the fact that my parents won’t let us watch bad shows, or listen to bad music. Kids in high school tease those of us in highschool because we don’t date, and because we don’t want to know about their latest “sleep-over.” People don’t like to hang out with us because we make them feel guilty for what they are doing. Also, we can’t go see the bad movie with them, or go to their wild party on the weekend.
We are A-OK with it, if my parents suddenly let us do all this, we wouldn’t because my parents have taught us why they don’t let us do these things. That is the thing that we try to explain to people, and the one thing they just don’t get. They don’t understand that because we are this way, because our parents can trust us, we are much more free than they ever will be.
I mean, my parents let me at age 16 and my sister at age 14 go to Germany for six weeks by ourselves. They weren’t afraid that we would do anything bad, they were only worried for our safety, which we were naively unconcerned about.

We are naive about many things because we don’t want to know the dirty details. We are not totally, though, because all we go to public high schools. What is amazing is that people start to stop cussing when we come around, the boys pull up their pants, the girls pull down their skirts, they skip the songs that are full of dirt, they don’t talk bad about teachers, etc…It is amazing how just asking someone nicely not to cuss, will change their whole attitude toward you.
I am not saying that I am great, I have been given so much, but because I have been given much, much is expected of me, so in many ways “innocence is bliss.” Now that I have so much knowledge about right and wrong, I am held to a much higher standard, and it is just as hard as those who were not taught as much and are held to a different standard.
It is hard sometimes not to have friends, but God gave me 3 sisters, 2 brothers and the most wonderful parents in the world, what more could I ask for. :D;)
 
I recently admitted to my folks I have been attending the Traditional Latin Mass and they gave each other a weird look. Every time I bring it up, they look bothered, which is weird because that’s the Mass they grew up with. I have a bad feeling that this Mass alone is going to solicit some sort of critical reaction.

I have yet to meet a Catholic who is interested, much less happy, in knowing I have started going to the Latin Mass. My siblings make jokes like, “Well, now you have a good reason for falling asleep: you don’t even know what they are saying!”

I can’t imagine what their reaction will be if and when I start adopting some more traditional Catholic beliefs and customs. Anyone else run into this problem?
I agree with some of the other comments. Why tell anyone? I attend a TLM, but if someone asks me where I go to Mass, I tell them where I go, but I don’t add “we’re a Latin Mass community”. It’s a divisive comment IMO, almost like there are 2 separate types of Catholics. If what you want to do is acceptable by the Church, just do it. Why would you care what others think?
 
I’m curious too as all Catholic “beliefs” must be identical. Dogma and Doctrine cannot be different for so-called traditionists and so-called liberals. We are members of the same Church with the same beliefs.
Well that sounds great in theory, but we all know in practice that most self-proclaimed “liberal Catholics” aren’t in-line with all the Ancient Dogmas of the Faith. Considering liberalism is a sin and has been condemned, I don’t know how you can even expect their “beliefs” to be identical with the Catholic Faith.
 
Well that sounds great in theory, but we all know in practice that most self-proclaimed “liberal Catholics” aren’t in-line with all the Ancient Dogmas of the Faith. Considering liberalism is a sin and has been condemned, I don’t know how you can even expect their “beliefs” to be identical with the Catholic Faith.
What a stupid remark!! All the Church teachings are summarised in the Catechism of the Catholic Church which is applicable to ALL Catholics. If you tell me there are beliefs not in the CCC then please tell us what they are and what your source is!!
 
What a stupid remark!!
How so? In reality there is far more truth in my remark than there is in yours. Can you tell me exactly and specifically which part of my post is stupid, because you didn’t exactly state that in your response? And you’re not exactly helping anyone by just stating that something is stupid, and then not explaining why.
All the Church teachings are summarised in the Catechism of the Catholic Church which is applicable to ALL Catholics.
But not all Catholics accept everything that’s in the CCC (contraception, Transubstantiation, etc.). I would say this doesn’t make them Catholics, but you’d probably just call them “liberal Catholics.” This is why your original statement is not true in practice. It’s not that the CCC doesn’t apply to all Catholics, it’s that not all Catholics (in fact I’m willing to bet most) believe everything that’s in the CCC.
If you tell me there are beliefs not in the CCC then please tell us what they are and what your source is!!
Try reading up on Limbo. You’ll find it in the Catechism of St. Pius X, Baltimore Catechism, the Summa, the first edition of the CCC, most theological manuals, and the writings of several Popes and Doctors.
 
Well that sounds great in theory, but **we all know in practice that most self-proclaimed “liberal Catholics” aren’t in-line with all the Ancient Dogmas of the Faith. **Considering liberalism is a sin and has been condemned, I don’t know how you can even expect their “beliefs” to be identical with the Catholic Faith.
Says whom? You? LOL!

And “liberalism” is now a sin? Since when? Is the word you are looking for “modernism?” If it is, you had better go look-up the meaning because it’s very specific within the context of the Church.
 
But not all Catholics accept everything that’s in the CCC (contraception, Transubstantiation, etc.). ** I would say this doesn’t make them Catholics, but you’d probably just call them “liberal Catholics.”** This is why your original statement is not true in practice. It’s not that the CCC doesn’t apply to all Catholics, it’s that not all Catholics (in fact I’m willing to bet most) believe everything that’s in the CCC.
That is a galactically ignorant comment. They dissent therefore they are “liberal?” You gotta be kidding. No, actually I’m not that ignorant. I would probably just call them “dissenters.”
Try reading up on Limbo. You’ll find it in the Catechism of St. Pius X, Baltimore Catechism, the Summa, the first edition of the CCC, most theological manuals, and the writings of several Popes and Doctors.
It shows those references are dated…

“Limbo” was never anything more than a theological construct…
 
They dissent therefore they are “liberal?” You gotta be kidding. No, actually I’m not that ignorant. I would probably just call them “dissenters.”
I would probably call them “Protestants”…😉
 
I agree with those above who pointed out that how something is said has an influence on how people receive it.

I’m not a traditionalist at all. Still, my non-church-going friends consider me to be in that category simply because I go to Mass. If I’m visiting someone over a weekend the issue will come up that I want to go to Mass on Sunday morning. Then we’ll discuss where the closest church is, whether they want to come with me, whether I should borrow their car to go, etc. But it’s very matter of fact with no judgment that one of us is better than the other.

The same thing came up with my very anti-religious brother. He suggested going to a steak house for dinner on a Lenten Friday. I asked if we could go there another day because I’d like to enjoy a steak and don’t eat meat on Fridays. He said “I thought they abolished that” and then said that of course we could go the next day instead. Again just a simple statement on my part with no judgment involved.

There’s no need to alienate people with your religious practices. The OP said
I recently admitted to my folks I have been attending the Traditional Latin Mass and they gave each other a weird look. Every time I bring it up, they look bothered, which is weird because that’s the Mass they grew up with. I have a bad feeling that this Mass alone is going to solicit some sort of critical reaction.
So why keep bringing it up?
 
Says whom? You? LOL!
No. This book, praised by the Holy Office under Pope Leo XIII and several subsequent Popes:

liberalismisasin.com/

(hint: try reading the title)

Then read the section of Blessed Pius IX’s Syllabus of Errors entitled Erros Having Reference To Modern Liberalism.

Then read Pope Leo XIII’s encyclical Libertas (I suggest reading the whole thing, but just reading paragraphs 31 and 42 couldn’t hurt).

Then read Divini Redemptoris and Quadragesimo Anno (specifically paragraph 122 in the latter) by Pope Pius XI.

Then read Pope Gregory XVI’s encyclical Mirari Vos.

There’s more more, but I’ll leave it here for now.
And “liberalism” is now a sin?
Yes.
Since when?
Since always.
Is the word you are looking for “modernism?”
Similiar, but no, a different beast.
If it is, you had better go look-up the meaning because it’s very specific within the context of the Church.
I know quite well what modernism is thank you very much.
 
Finally somebody brought up Protestants. I’m a convert from a Disciples of Christ household. My mother is very supportive of my catholicism and often goes to mass with me. The only bone of contention we have is that I will not allow her to chew gum even though she is not receiving the Eucharist. She complies but it annoys her but I can’t have her perceived as disrespectful or setting a bad example for the children,😊 😊 :o 😃
 
It shows those references are dated…
One of them is only fifteen years old! Besides that, come on. These are some of the “pillars” of Catholic orthodoxy (therefore it doesn’t matter how old they are), and somehow they are no longer true or no longer apply? So it’s somehow okay to revise the Ancient Catholic Faith and its Holy Traditions? No thanks. I’ll stick to the authentic Catholic Faith, and stay away from this notion of Dogmatic “evolution and revisionism”.
“Limbo” was never anything more than a theological construct…
Cough, Ordinary Magisterium, Cough…
 
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