Arguments needed against voluntary euthanasia

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No, have you?
Of course yes. We all have limited potential. We might break down very easily when we are under a lots of physical or psychological stress. That is what I think that it is people right to decide about their own lives, no matter how precious it is.
 
Of course yes. We all have limited potential. We might break down very easily when we are under a lots of physical or psychological stress. That is what I think that it is people right to decide about their own lives, no matter how precious it is.
Not me. My brother committed suicide in total despair. He could have had a lot more years. Just because you break down doesn’t mean you need to commit suicide. When people are utterly alone and have no help at that time is no reason for that one moment to end their lives. Likewise when people choose assisted suicide.
 
Not me. My brother committed suicide in total despair. He could have had a lot more years. Just because you break down doesn’t mean you need to commit suicide. When people are utterly alone and have no help at that time is no reason for that one moment to end their lives. Likewise when people choose assisted suicide.
That means that you don’t understand how such a situation look like. It is like explaining love for a person who has never felt love. Think of a person who has to be in lock in syndrome for rest of its life or a person who is in deep depression for a long time. You might change your mind as well if you are in the same situation.
 
That means that you don’t understand how such a situation look like. It is like explaining love for a person who has never felt love. Think of a person who has to be in lock in syndrome for rest of its life or a person who is in deep depression for a long time. You might change your mind as well if you are in the same situation.
What they should kill themselves? You are really twisted.
 
What they should kill themselves? You are really twisted.
To release themselves and have peace, death. We can all reach to such a conclusion, that life doesn’t really worth it, depending on state of our lives.
 
To release themselves and have peace, death. We can all reach to such a conclusion, that life doesn’t really worth it, depending on state of our lives.
well since you’ve experience all of this and have all the answers why are you still alive?
 
well since you’ve experience all of this and have all the answers why are you still alive?
I didn’t reach to the point of complete breakdown. It was very close. A little of more pressure and I was gone.
 
I would like to ask an honest question. How dare you demand to make decisions for someone else? If you never walked in their shoes, you cannot know what motivates the suicidal people who want to end their lives. How would you feel if some “do-gooders” would claim to have the authority to run your life? There was a great movie, titled “Whose life is it anyway?”. We cannot be deprived of our dignity to make our decisions about ourselves.

If you do not wish to hasten your death, make a living will and it will be respected. But if you wish have your decision to be respected and honored, do the same thing to others. You are so vocal about the dignity of humans - and it is an admirable endeavor. But dignity is respecting the wishes of others, even if you do not happen to agree with them. Keep that in mind.
 
I didn’t reach to the point of complete breakdown. It was very close. A little of more pressure and I was gone.
Well I suggest you put your faith in God and know that He is beside you all the time, even at your darkest hour. Life is a gift. Please do not destroy it. You may think it is only you who is affected by your death, but it reverberates out others. Honor your life and the One who bestowed it on you.
 
Well I suggest you put your faith in God and know that He is beside you all the time, even at your darkest hour. Life is a gift. Please do not destroy it. You may think it is only you who is affected by your death, but it reverberates out others. Honor your life and the One who bestowed it on you.
There are times that nothing can really help you, even believing in God.
 
I would like to ask an honest question. How dare you demand to make decisions for someone else? If you never walked in their shoes, you cannot know what motivates the suicidal people who want to end their lives. How would you feel if some “do-gooders” would claim to have the authority to run your life? There was a great movie, titled “Whose life is it anyway?”. We cannot be deprived of our dignity to make our decisions about ourselves.

If you do not wish to hasten your death, make a living will and it will be respected. But if you wish have your decision to be respected and honored, do the same thing to others. You are so vocal about the dignity of humans - and it is an admirable endeavor. But dignity is respecting the wishes of others, even if you do not happen to agree with them. Keep that in mind.
We are not isolated individuals but members of a community deeply affected by the behaviour of others. People’s wishes are not always in their own interests or those of their family or society in which they live. To choose to die is the most irrevocable act we can commit and usually it is at the expense of others - unless we are hermits. Only egoists believe their wishes are supreme and no one else should have a say as to whether they abandon everyone else, as if the rest of us count for nothing. It also establishes a precedent which makes others likely to follow. I had a friend who committed suicide after having arranged for a lawyer and his wife to adopt her son. A few months later the wife also committed suicide… Was that fortuitous?
 
There are times that nothing can really help you, even believing in God.
It is possible to convince ourselves that nothing can really help us but that is a form of brainwashing which is never justified - unless you can give an example to the contrary…
 
Not me. My brother committed suicide in total despair. He could have had a lot more years. Just because you break down doesn’t mean you need to commit suicide. When people are utterly alone and have no help at that time is no reason for that one moment to end their lives. Likewise when people choose assisted suicide.
It is when people feel alone they are most likely to kill themselves. When they know some one loves them it makes all the difference because they don’t feel so isolated and they know the effect it will have on that person.
 
To release themselves and have peace, death. We can all reach to such a conclusion, that life doesn’t really worth it, depending on state of our lives.
To die, to sleep. To sleep, perchance to dream—ay, there’s the rub,
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause…
  • Hamlet
There is no guarantee ending this life will end our troubles! It may make matters worse…
 
It is possible to convince ourselves that nothing can really help us but that is a form of brainwashing which is never justified - unless you can give an example to the contrary…
You are correct. This is a form of brainwashing. When Dr. Kervorkian began performing “assisted suicides” in the US, he referred to himself as a “reformer.” A reformer of what? Killing people who he said they asked for it? So the plan is to make this acceptable around the world. I’m very concerned.

priestsforlife.org/euthanasia/euthrefl.html

Ed
 
We are not isolated individuals but members of a community deeply affected by the behaviour of others.
When it comes to your life, it is your decision that counts, and not anyone else’s. You would not want others make decisions for you, would you? And if you wish to claim sovereignty over your decisions, grant the same sovereignty to others.
 
You are correct. This is a form of brainwashing. When Dr. Kervorkian began performing “assisted suicides” in the US, he referred to himself as a “reformer.” A reformer of what? Killing people who he said they asked for it? So the plan is to make this acceptable around the world. I’m very concerned.

priestsforlife.org/euthanasia/euthrefl.html

Ed
I am very concerned as well. The right to die will very quickly become a “duty” to die.
Suffering will become a capital offence.

Our lives belong to God. Our lives not belong to ourselves. We did not create ourselves we must not destroy ourselves. If there were no suffering there would be no compassion. The thought that we can end suffering by killing the sufferer is the same as the pro-choice people who believe that can get rid of poverty by killing the babies of the poor.

It is insanity.
 
When it comes to your life, it is your decision that counts, and not anyone else’s. You would not want others make decisions for you, would you? And if you wish to claim sovereignty over your decisions, grant the same sovereignty to others.
That’s why tribalism exists. NO ONE needs my permission to do anything. So, on a Catholic forum, the answer is no. NO ONE needs me to grant anybody anything, and I will vote against this.

Ed
 
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