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armyross
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I find it funny that LDS or CULT people come on here post and then leave when they are out of there lies
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twopekinguys
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twopekinguys
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There is a definite pattern to their postings.
Usually it starts off by playing the persecution card when they are faced with questions they can’t answer.
Then, it moves into either hiding out for a while and hoping it blows over, or it moves into abandoning a thread all together.
When really pressed on an issue for which they have no answer, or don’t want to answer, they bare their testimony, and disappear…
Of course, there are variations to this, but, this is pretty darn close.
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gh4
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This is the non-catholic section, can’t you be charitable?
If this board doesn’t want other religions to post, then they need to get rid of this section. Just tell them you don’t like them and to go away.
Perhaps I don’t agree with the beliefs of other religions, but I do respect them as I want them to respect me and mine. It’s the do unto others thing…
fun? I have fun without hurting the feelings of others.
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twopekinguys
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Rather judgmental don’t you think?
Nobody is mocking anything, and it is obvious that you as a new member are not aware of different posters styles.
It is next to impossible to determine someones tone through an online forum.
TK is not, rude or mocking, he is simply outspoken and blunt. Both being excellent qualities when defending the faith.
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TexanKnight
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ah shucks!
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CarolNoel
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I think the moderators would step in if they thought the Mormons were being picked on by us horrible Catholics!
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gh4
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I’m ashamed to call myself Catholic in this forum. Seriously.
Hurt your feelings? If I did, then I was just having fun, it’s hot out here in the desert dontchaknow, and I just needed to cool off by having some fun. Next I’m going to catch me some lizards and pull their legs off for fun, and then pick on the scorpions. You don’t know me, I’m just having some fun.
Hurt your feelings? If I did, then I was just having fun, it’s hot out here in the desert dontchaknow, and I just needed to cool off by having some fun. Next I’m going to catch me some lizards and pull their legs off for fun, and then pick on the scorpions. You don’t know me, I’m just having some fun.
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7armyrugrats
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Wow, this seems to be a habit in CAF. It’s sad that no one can find the way to discuss things without it turning ugly at some point. No, I’m not taking sides or even directing this at any poster in particular. It just seems I see this a lot on here and find it disappointing.
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RebeccaJ
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I would conclude that you don’t know the meaning of household.
Merriam Websters says: those who dwell under the same roof and compose a family; also : a social unit composed of those living together in the same dwelling
Synonyms
extended family, home, house, ménage
Related Words
blood, folks, kin, kindred, kinfolk (or kinfolks), kinsfolk, kith; brood; nuclear family; clan, community
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twopekinguys
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DING, DING, DING, We have a Winner!!!
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twopekinguys
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Unfortunately, it is you that is derailing the thread.
If you don’t like a particular post, use the report feature. The little triangle in the upper right corner of each post, and let the moderators review it.
You can also put the poster on your ignore list.
You could also send that poster a PM, and discuss it in a private manner, instead of derailing a thread.
Another option would be to discuss the issue at hand(the thread subject), and not a posters style
I just wanted to give you some options…
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kimg901
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If you dont like it, dont read the posts. Nobody is holding a gun to your head are they? Lighten up. You could also read all the posts on this thread. As Two pointed out the mormons will try different things but he also left out that when certain things dont work, they become rude and attack the poster. If your so ashamed, tell it to Jesus.
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Porknpie
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OK, I’d like to hear a LDS response to post 527 but if not all of 527 then only to this point. If an infant is not part of a “Household” …what is it? To be fair to Mormons, this question is not only one for Mormon’s but all other denominations that believe baptism should be delayed until the age of reason.
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I’d like to know the answers to the two questions above. This could be the start of a new thread.
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superwimp
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Hello Porknpie,
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I believe infants are part of the household. I believe baptism should be delayed until the age of reason.
If I understand the Catholic belief properly you believe that being baptized provides some benefit in and of itself in the afterlife to the individual who is baptized. In other words if both a Hindu baby and a Catholic baby dies the Catholic baby will get some sort of benefit from his baptism that the Hindu baby will lose out on. Is this correct?
I believe that baptism is a result of a decision to follow Christ. It needs to be done when the individual is able to make that decision. The ritual of baptism has no value in and of itself.
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Porknpie
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Hi Superwimp -
Wonderful that you believe infants are part of the “household”. This is important because the written Word of God records that “whole households were baptised”. If that is true, it would include infants, at least some of the time. No where in scripture does it say not to baptize infants … and the early church writings outside of scripture clearly record infants being baptized. Infants are baptized with their parents making promises to raise the child in faith. Baptism is prefigured in the Old Testament by Circumcision, which was performed at the age of 8 days old (infants). Baptism cleanes us from original sin and is required as the ordinary way for salvation. But God is not restricted to the sacrament of baptism, so for a Hindu person who never had a chance to know Christ, the Church teaches that a person may be saved through the the “baptism of desire”. There are a number of Catholic.com Tracts on the subject including this one here and here.
Here is an example from scripture of households being baptized.
One who heard us was a woman named Lydia, from the city of Thyati′ra, a seller of purple goods, who was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to give heed to what was said by Paul. 15 And when she was baptized, with her household, she besought us, saying, “If you have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come to my house and stay.” And she prevailed upon us.
So if you believe that infants are part of households…then you (should) believe that infants were baptized. Keep asking questions!
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RebeccaJ
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There are graces received by baptism that benefit a person through their whole life. It wouldn’t make sense to us to deny a person these graces just because they aren’t X years old.From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
“A new creature”
1265 Baptism not only purifies from all sins, but also makes the neophyte “a new creature,” an adopted son of God, who has become a “partaker of the divine nature,” (2 Cor 5:17; 2 Pet 1:4; cf. Gal 4:5-) member of Christ and co-heir with him, (1 Cor 6:15; 12:27; Rom 8:17) and a temple of the Holy Spirit. (1 Cor 6:19)
1266 The Most Holy Trinity gives the baptized sanctifying grace, the grace of justification:
- enabling them to believe in God, to hope in him, and to love him through the theological virtues;
- giving them the power to live and act under the prompting of the Holy Spirit through the gifts of the Holy Spirit;
- allowing them to grow in goodness through the moral virtues.
Thus the whole organism of the Christian’s supernatural life has its roots in Baptism.
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Thecourts
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Why should the answers stated here, by mostly non LDS members, be accurate when in my opinion, one has not been taught by the missionaries or been on mormon.org to get their questions answered. I believe folks here, who are former LDS or never been LDS have the right to their own opinion — their opinion should not be considered official doctrine of the LDS church.
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