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Skadi said:
  1. this is governed by the 9 noble virtues
    -courage
    -truth
    -honor
    -fidelity
    -discipline
    -hospitality
    -self-reliance
    -industriousness
    -perseverance
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What do you think of the following virtues:
  • Faith
  • Hope
  • Love
  • Prudence
  • Justice
  • Fortitude
  • Temperance
  • Humility
  • Patience
 
Skadi, I don’t know if you’ve already answered this, but I didn’t see it if you did. What makes your deities worthy of your worship? And what would happen if you didn’t honor the gods?
 
How does your pagan belief system look at what the Catholic Church terms the seven deadly sins and their antipodal heavenly virtues?

Pride – Humility
Envy – Admiration
Anger – Forgiveness
Sloth – Zeal
Avarice – Generosity
Gluttony – Temperance
Lust – Chastity
 
JMJ_coder said:
Skadi, I don’t know if you’ve already answered this, but I didn’t see it if you did. What makes your deities worthy of your worship? And what would happen if you didn’t honor the gods?
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They are the gods of my ancestors, that’s why I chose to worship them. They are mighty and represent the virtues of Germanic culture. While they are open to any ones worship but their worship is heavily tied with Germanic culture. I dont believe they are the only pantheon of deity’s, but that each pantheon is a cultures perception of the ultimate reality.

If i don’t honor the Gods i cant expect any aid from them in times of need, or entry to Valhalla.
 
JMJ_coder said:
How does your pagan belief system look at what the Catholic Church terms the seven deadly sins and their antipodal heavenly virtues?

Pride – Humility
Envy – Admiration
Anger – Forgiveness
Sloth – Zeal
Avarice – Generosity
Gluttony – Temperance
Lust – Chastity
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Im familiar with them. For each in particular;

Pride-The gods can be VERY prideful some times and while being prideful can make one overconfident and a jerk there is nothing against it, its not immoral.
Envy- while its obviously not helpful, it isnt considered immoral.
Anger-Anger is a natural emotion, if someone does something against you anger is but the natural response.
Sloth-Contrary to Industriousness, so not acceptable.
Avarice-Contrary to Hospitality, Not acceptable.
Gluttony-So long as you do not harm others, it is yours to chose. The gods feast and drink like mad.
Lust-No teaching on the subject but sleeping around was very common back in the day and the Gods so it as well.
 
Skadi, you are doing a good job trying to keep up!

But could you please answer my questions posted way back? Thanks.
 
RebeccaJ said:
Your life is His, and you will die. You should have a care for your soul.
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I thank you for your genuine concern, and I fully do care for it. That’s why I spend every day prepared to earn a place in Valhalla if the opportunity presents itself.
 
PRmerger said:
Where is anything written about what the gods demand?

Also, could you please answer what sources you used to tell you about Nero’s persecution of the Christians?
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Nowhere, it is generally part of tradition. The writings about the German deities are very different from the bible. The Eddas are stories, recounting the deeds and adventures of the gods. They do not speak directly to people in what written sources we have (although they may appear to an individual and speak to them if they wish.) Nowhere does it say “And Odin said, be Courageous, be Truthful…” What we have comes from interpretation, tradition, and culture.
 
Skadi said:
Nowhere, it is generally part of tradition. The writings about the German deities are very different from the bible. The Eddas are stories, recounting the deeds and adventures of the gods. They do not speak directly to people in what written sources we have (although they may appear to an individual and speak to them if they wish.) Nowhere does it say “And Odin said, be Courageous, be Truthful…” What we have comes from interpretation, tradition, and culture.
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??

So you are dismissive of the writings of the NT because they are not first person narratives written by Jesus…

and yet you view Germanic lore, with nothing written down at all and no authority to decree, “This is what the gods have said!”, as more reliable?

If you are a man of integrity, and I think you are, you will see how incoherent this position is.
 
SteveVH said:
I am truly amazed at your efforts to discount your Creator.
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Why, should we not look at things critically? the Bible itself warns of false prophets. Why Is Jesus not one? What makes the claim that Jesus turned water into wine more credible than the claim Odin rode onto the field at Lena and lead the Pagan Swedes to victory over the Christian Danes?

Like I said this isn’t the “discredit Christianity” thread so Im just going to try and keep it on answering questions.
 
PRmerger said:
??

So you are dismissive of the writings of the NT because they are not first person narratives written by Jesus…

and yet you view Germanic lore, with nothing written down at all and no authority to decree, “This is what the gods have said!”, as more reliable?

If you are a man of integrity, and I think you are, you will see how incoherent this position is.
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No but it is totally possible they were tampered with in some way.

And there are writings, but few have survived. And the “Authority to decree” of Christianity is based on its own claim. God is the ultimate authority because God says so.

Making a claim does not make that claim true.

And lastly thank you, I do my best to retain impartiality and integrity on subjects like this.
 
Skadi said:
No but it is totally possible they were tampered with in some way.
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What are you referring to here? The Germanic lore???
And there are writings, but few have survived.
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So how can you trust the lore? Would that not mean that your religion is man-made?

And that then brings me to one of my other unanswered questions: how do you know which religions are man-made?
 
PRmerger said:
What are you referring to here? The Germanic lore???

So how can you trust the lore? Would that not mean that your religion is man-made?

And that then brings me to one of my other unanswered questions: how do you know which religions are man-made?
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No the NT, although we know there was likely some tampering with the written parts of Germanic lore because alot of it was transcribed by christian monks in the 12th and 13th centuries. The details of what happens post-Ragnarok are particularly believed to have been effected. Snorri saved alot of stories and is rightly revered for it, but he was a christian monk so we do not know if he altered them in any way or Christianized them.

All religious writings were written down by men, no one has a book that just fell from the sky, so there is in every religion the possibility of man corrupting it. But I believe that universal truth is revealed in a culturaly relevant context, so if someone was to magicly contacted by some entity that goes against whatever the culture they are in teaches thats a major red flag right there. That dosnt necessarily discredit Judaism (YHWH was worshiped by the Canaanites as the head of thier pantheon) or even Christianity (because the Messiah was a big part of Jewish culture) but it does make them warrant scrutiny in my opinion. Mormonism and Levarian Satanism are the two I usually bring up as being pretty obviously man made because one guy suddenly claims to have something totally contrary to the contemporary culture. If truth is revealed in a cultural context then it doesn’t shift cultures in some violent spasm.

If truth isnt revealed in cultural context and just smacks us in the face then sure those religions may be the work of the “Is All” but thats not my belief. And in the end thats what religion is, belief.
 
Skadi said:
No but it is totally possible they were tampered with in some way.

Making a claim does not make that claim true.
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It is totally possible they were not tampered with in some way? Why assume that they were? :confused:

True, but why assume that the Christian claim is false and that paganism is true? Perhaps it is because paganism aligns more with your beliefs?
 
Do you use runes, Skadi? If so, do you use them for divination, magic, or both?
 
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