Ask about Islam

[trustme80]

Can you explain to me the biblical passage “In the begining there was the word”, how can that be since God does not have a begining. He always existed yet this passage suggests that there was a starting point for his existance “In the begining”. This is a human logical falacy and is not from God as He does not have a begining.

Tell me about the point before “the begining”

in the begining that shirt was mine, than i gave it to him, than he gave it to his sister, than his sister used it to wipe his a**.

does the above sentence imply that me and the shirt didnt exist before “in the begining” ?

 

[palmas85]

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With the name of ALLAH ( God Almighty)
-The Bestower Of Unlimited Mercy, The Continously Merciful

may peace & blessings of God be upon you

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Do you have any question about Islam , Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him ) or holy Quran ?

Pl. ask without using any nasty words .

InshaAllah ( God Willing ) , Muslims participants will try to answer

Why would I have a question about Islam? It is a faith that popped up 600 years or so after the death of Christ and combined elements of Judaism and Christianity to create something else.
Similar in some respects to both but different.

There are really no questions that could be answered about it that we all haven’t already heard.

 

[1holycatholic]

There are really no questions that could be answered about it that we all haven’t already heard.

Browse the thread. The Muslim apologists either don’t want to, or can’t answer the tough questions about Islam.

 

[pyreshadow]

ok i have a question. this coming for someone who studies religions. um i know that jews and some cathloics study angels (however i find that some have been rejected). what about in the religion of islam?

 

[planten]

ok i have a question. this coming for someone who studies religions. um i know that jews and some cathloics study angels (however i find that some have been rejected). what about in the religion of islam?

The Muslims believe in God and in all His angels. Also believe in all His revealed books and all His messengers. If a Muslim does not believe in all the books or all the messengers (prophets) then he cannot be a Muslim.

 

[planten]

in the begining that shirt was mine, than i gave it to him, than he gave it to his sister, than his sister used it to wipe his a**.

does the above sentence imply that me and the shirt didnt exist before “in the begining” ?

**You are surely joking with God. You are comparing the God with the shirt? If the shirt existed and had a beginning then you believe that God also had a beginning.

It was a very good question from fmdgy and you are all trapped. We had been telling you that the sentence was meaningless and only John knew about it. Mathew and Mark and Luke did not know this all important information that in the beginning was the word.

On top of that, The word was with God and the word was God. It means that GOd was with God… How many fallacies are there in your theory to make Jesus as God? Now it has been proved that your God had a beginning. He began to exist at some time. So every one can understand that He did not exist before that time. And who brought your GOd into existence will be our next question to you soon.**

 

[Americanrevert]

**Hello,

ok i have a question. this coming for someone who studies religions. um i know that jews and some cathloics study angels (however i find that some have been rejected). what about in the religion of islam?

The belief in Angels is one of the main pillars of belief. A muslim must believe in this if he is to be a believer in Allah’s message.

Angels are created from nur “light”.

Belief in the angels implies four essential things:

1 – Affirming that they exist and that they are part of the creation of Allaah, subject to His Lordship and subjugated to Him.

“…honoured slaves.

They speak not until He has spoken, and they act on His Command”

(al-Anbiya’ 21:26-27 – interpretation of the meaning)

“who disobey not, (from executing) the Commands they receive from Allaah, but do that which they are commanded”

(al-Tahreem 66:6 – interpretation of the meaning)

“And those who are near Him (i.e. the angels) are not too proud to worship Him, nor are they weary (of His worship).

They (i.e. the angels) glorify His Praises night and day, (and) they never slacken (to do so)”

(al-Anbiya’ 21:19-20 – interpretation of the meaning)

2 – Belief in the names of those whose name we know, such as Jibreel, Mikaa’eel, Israafeel, Maalik, Radwaan and others – peace be upon them.

3 – Belief in the attributes of those whose attributes we know, as we know the description of Jibreel from the Sunnah, and that he has six hundred wings which filled the horizon or the sky.

4 – Belief in the actions which we know some of them do, so Jibreel (peace be upon him) was entrusted with that which revives the heart, namely the Revelation. Israafeel is entrusted with sounding the Trumpet-blast (to herald the onset of the Day of Resurrection); Mikaa’eel is entrusted with the rain; Maalik is entrusted with Hell, and so on.

One of the most important things that we must believe in is that every person has two angels with him who record his deeds. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“(Remember) that the two receivers (recording angels) receive (each human being), one sitting on the right and one on the left (to note his or her actions)

Not a word does he (or she) utter but there is a watcher by him ready (to record it)” Qaaf 50:17-18

إِذْ يَتَلَقَّى الْمُتَلَقِّيَانِ عَنِ الْيَمِينِ وَعَنِ الشِّمَالِ قَعِيدٌ

مَا يَلْفِظُ مِنْ قَوْلٍ إِلَّا لَدَيْهِ رَقِيبٌ عَتِيدٌ​

example: a watcher from among these angels who is present. So beware lest these two angels record anything from you that will be bad for you on the Day of Resurrection, for everything that you say will be recorded against you, and when the Day of Resurrection comes, each person’s book of deeds will be brought out,

americanrevert
**

 

[pyreshadow]

The Muslims believe in God and in all His angels. Also believe in all His revealed books and all His messengers. If a Muslim does not believe in all the books or all the messengers (prophets) then he cannot be a Muslim.

really!!! i’ve been trying to find more info of the angel puruel. i’ve read the testament of abraham but i want to know more about him. i was wondering i could talk to you privately the reasons why i do if thats all right.

 

[pyreshadow]

**Hello,

The belief in Angels is one of the main pillars of belief. A muslim must believe in this if he is to be a believer in Allah’s message.

Angels are created from nur “light”.

Belief in the angels implies four essential things:…

**

um i just wanted a simple answer, but thank you. i am not sure if it really answered my question all that clearly.

 

[Americanrevert]

**Hello,

um i just wanted a simple answer, but thank you. i am not sure if it really answered my question all that clearly.

you’re welcome

you wanted to know about angels so I gave you a short glimpse

It isn’t that much. Just a few names of angels, what some duties of them are and what they are required to do.

americanrevert**

 

[pyreshadow]

**Hello,

you’re welcome

you wanted to know about angels so I gave you a short glimpse

It isn’t that much. Just a few names of angels, what some duties of them are and what they are required to do.

americanrevert**

well i just wanted to know to more about one angel. hehe, well i’ll will check them out once i am done with this one:shrug: .

 

[Americanrevert]

okies

 

[Angelos]

please explain to me how exactly is it we are ascribing a godly attribute to him by saying he was God’s first creation. How did you arrive at the conclusion that God’s first creation shares his attributes?

You are either mistakenly or deliberately perverting the verse in epilogue to John’s Gospel. Christianity does not believe that the Word (Jesus) was God’s first creation! Your starting point makes all your related presumptions false and unreliable. The Word is the divine AGENT, through whom ALL THINGS came to existence. The Word is NOT a creature, but the SOURCE and LIFE of Creation.

John 1:3-4
All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made. In him was life: and the life was the light of men.

I don’t have a problem with Jesus being before Adam or Abraham, I simply can’t deny or confirm that as I don’t havn’t read anything about it from islamic sources.

So why the need to distort our scripture?

Can you explain to me the biblical passage “In the begining there was the word”, how can that be since God does not have a begining. He always existed yet this passage suggests that there was a starting point for his existance “In the begining”. This is a human logical falacy and is not from God as He does not have a begining.

Tell me about the point before “the begining”

You are the one whose statements are logically fallacious simply because you are reading into the text what is NOT there! The Gospel does not even imply that the WORD came into existence in the beginning. On the contrary, it emphasises the fact that the Word WAS before the beginning: the Word EXISTED prior to the beginning of creation.

 

[dzheremi]

Sorry I couldn’t respond earlier, famdigy. A friend of mine who is in a very sensitive emotional position called and I’ve only just gotten off the phone with her.

Anyway, Angelos answered in the way I would have answered, so I’m not sure what more I can add. Regarding my personal view on Muhammad’s claim of his own pre-existence, I cannot help but notice that it is very close to Jesus’ “Before Abraham was, I Am”, which is taken by Christians to be an assertion of His divinity. So, with that in mind, I must reject Muhammad’s claim. He was not before Abraham was, but far later. I thought that the Quran supported the literal timeline of the prophets (or else what does calling Muhammad the last of the prophets or the final seal of the prophets even mean?), but maybe I have been misinformed. At any rate, Muhammad was not pre-existent. Only God is. Even Adam and Eve were created, and loooooong before Muhammad at that.

Regarding “In the beginning”, I must say: Your objection does not make sense. Inherent in the phrase “In the beginning” is a sort of finality that curtails any possible “before the beginning” type of scenario. I know it is possible among some anti-religionists to make similar claims about “what was before God” or what have you, but that’s all nonsense. It’s THE BEGINNING. There is nothing before it! And in that beginning there was God, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Meaning that all of these things were in existence in the beginning, prior to the creation of the world or people or any part of existence as we know it. Prior to Adam and Eve, prior to Abraham, prior to Ishmael, Issac, Muhammad or anyone. And Angelos’ point must be emphasized: The Word is NOT a creation. It is the source of creation itself.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

…If you really are a woman of your words, stick to your original intents. You said you will answer questions non-Muslims have. You’re avoiding my question.

My duty is just to give information about Islam . If you are not satisfied , I can’t do anything.

I told u more than once that God sent different books to different Prophets (pbut).

So , why God sent Taurat to Moses (p) & Quran to Muhammed (p) …you have to ask Him on the last day.

 

[dolphinlove]

Salaam/peace

My duty is just to give information about Islam . If you are not satisfied , I can’t do anything.

I told u more than once that God sent different books to different Prophets (pbut).

So , why God sent Taurat to Moses (p) & Quran to Muhammed (p) …you have to ask Him on the last day.

I think the more direct question he would like to know is, if God gave us a perfectly good book like the bible, then why did he need to send another prophet with a completely different set of rules?

 

[AnAtheist]

I think the more direct question he would like to know is, if God gave us a perfectly good book like the bible, then why did he need to send another prophet with a completely different set of rules?

Isn’t the answer obvious? From a muslim point of view, God did’t gave the Bible as it is, so there was the need of another prophet to get things “right”.
The same question arises with the NT. If God gave Moses a perfectly good set of rules, why did he show up to change some of those rules (like eating cheeseburgers) ?

 

[dolphinlove]

Isn’t the answer obvious? From a muslim point of view, God did’t gave the Bible as it is, so there was the need of another prophet to get things “right”.
The same question arises with the NT. If God gave Moses a perfectly good set of rules, why did he show up to change some of those rules (like eating cheeseburgers) ?

No its not obvious!
The bible is compiled in OT and NT because Jesus was prophecised in the OT, and came to finish the prophecy in the NT.
The NT is for Christians, as the Jews do not believe in the prophecy of Jesus.
Then, all of a sudden old Mo came with his own book of different rules. The OT and NT are from God himself, then all of a sudden God has a change of heart and then sends the quran? please!
Why would God create another book of different rules, this question was NOT answered!

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

I think the more direct question he would like to know is, if God gave us a perfectly good book like the bible, then why did he need to send another prophet with a completely different set of rules?

Quran does not have completely different set of rules.

All holy books have same main message to mankind —worship one God only. Don’t take other diety besides God.

Also , earlier holy books became corrupted ; so God sent the last book to the seal of the Prophets .

No corruption can touch the Quran — it will remain pure till the last day. Praise be to God only.

Few things are different in holy books . One reason is some things were illegal for Jews as punishment ; something jews prohibited for themselves though God did not forbid those.

Later God made some things lawful for the followers of the last Prophet (p).

u can’t get the highest degree/ certificate from a varsity . u have to pass the school , college first.

That’s the way , God first prepared believers of the past with Prophet & revelation only . Later He started sending holy books to messengers . Gradually He completed His religion when the last Prophet conveyed the final message of God to the people. So that they can understand fully

If anybody finds my ans incorrect , pl. bash me & don’t use any nasty words against the last Prophet (p) or holy Quran.

We can discuss about our faith without being rude , can’t we ?

Is it a must for Christians to write our Prophet’s name as Mo & in some other nasty way ?

We are not asking you to accept him as a Prophet but to show a minimum respect …is it too much to ask ?

 

[dolphinlove]

Salaam/peace

Peace

Quran does not have completely different set of rules.

All holy books have same main message to mankind —worship one God only. Don’t take other diety besides God.

Yes, the quran does have many different rules, too many to mention, but the main differences are you dont believe in Jesus as we do. We do believe in the one God, but from some responses on here, we are accused of worshipping 3 Gods, so there are major differences in both books.

Also , earlier holy books became corrupted ; so God sent the last book to the seal of the Prophets .

No corruption can touch the Quran — it will remain pure till the last day. Praise be to God only.

Sorry, the bible is not corrupted, it never has been and never will be, it IS from God. But this argument about who is right and wrong can take forever.
The quran is not pure, there are different versions.

Few things are different in holy books . One reason is some things were illegal for Jews as punishment ; something jews prohibited for themselves though God did not forbid those.

Later God made some things lawful for the followers of the last Prophet (p).

And havent the muslims done the same? made things illegal for themselves and its not in the quran???

u can’t get the highest degree/ certificate from a varsity . u have to pass the school , college first.

That’s the way , God first prepared believers of the past with Prophet & revelation only . Later He started sending holy books to messengers . Gradually He completed His religion when the last Prophet conveyed the final message of God to the people. So that they can understand fully

yes this is your belief, but as i said, these debates can take quite some time…

If anybody finds my ans incorrect , pl. bash me & don’t use any nasty words against the last Prophet (p) or holy Quran.
We can discuss about our faith without being rude , can’t we ?
Is it a must for Christians to write our Prophet’s name as Mo & in some other nasty way ? We are not asking you to accept him as a Prophet but to show a minimum respect …is it too hard ?

Well i usually call people by nick names, so sorry, wasnt meaning any disrespect…
Ill show you respect MW, because you dont have the intentions of other muslims on here and show complete disrespect for our religion and our belief in Jesus.