Ask an Anglican/Episcopalian

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ChurchSoldier said:
Any time a historic Christian body decides to stray from both Biblical example and early church tradition it will find itself in trouble.

As far as the other comment on the liberalization of the Anglican Communion, it is generally not the case. While the Western bodies of the Episcopal Church and Anglican Church in England and Canada are more prominant because of location, they do not reflect the majority of the world’s Anglican belief.

Particulalry since the Anglican Church of England has decided to walk away from the historic Episcopate, I think we will see formal confirmation by most of the worlds Anglicans acknowledging their “self” separation in the next few years.
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That last is possible, IMO.

GKC
 
GKC said:
Formally, no. In practice, yes. I’ve met more than one.

GKC
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I have met atheist Catholics an Baptist. If they are atheist then Are they really a Christian, muchless an Episcopalian?
 
aidanbradypop said:
I have met atheist Catholics an Baptist. If they are atheist then Are they really a Christian, muchless an Episcopalian?
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I see no reason why not. I have met individuals who it would be harder to prove they were Christian than that they were Anglican.

GKC
 
Maybe so. Maybe just wishful thinking on my part.

I think once Canterbury “ordains” a woman to the office of bishop, having no regard for those with the Biblical / Tradition view of Holy Orders there will be a change if there ever will be one. There is something symbolic about Canterbury not present when the other provinces disregard these things.

That said, I think your opinion is probably more correct.
 
GKC said:
2nd non-reply to your post. I knew when I agreed to participate in this thread, it was a very bad time for me, with a lot of conflicting claims on my attention . And so it is. So, before I charge off constructing any sort of a reply to your post, give a little of what you might be looking for. I might respond with what I want to say, anyway, but it might give me a clue.

GKC, hassled.
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Since GKC is obviously squandering his time on prayer, scripture, and spiritual and corporal works of mercy, and neglecting his Internet duties, I put this out to any of the tea-and-Guiness drinkers out there.
  1. I assume Anglicans accept as authoritative early ecumenical councils, like Nicea. Would they accept the authority of any other councils up to Trent? Do they regard Trent and later councils as having any teaching significance for non-Catholics?
  2. I believe Anglican clergy can hear confessions if requested. If true, is it an actual practice, on a scheduled basis, in Anglo-Catholic congregations, for instance? What about in ACNA or the Continuing Anglican churches? Or is it a rare occurrence?
  3. Wasn’t there a period of time when married men could get ordained, but priests could not marry? If so, about when was that era, is it still the rule in places now? Or am I mixing this up with Eastern Christians? Are there still Anglican religious orders that hold to poverty, celibacy, obedience?
 
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Since GKC is obviously squandering his time on prayer, scripture, and spiritual and corporal works of mercy, and neglecting his Internet duties, I put this out to any of the tea-and-Guiness drinkers out there.
  1. I assume Anglicans accept as authoritative early ecumenical councils, like Nicea. Would they accept the authority of any other councils up to Trent? Do they regard Trent and later councils as having any teaching significance for non-Catholics?
  2. I believe Anglican clergy can hear confessions if requested. If true, is it an actual practice, on a scheduled basis, in Anglo-Catholic congregations, for instance? What about in ACNA or the Continuing Anglican churches? Or is it a rare occurrence?
  3. Wasn’t there a period of time when married men could get ordained, but priests could not marry? If so, about when was that era, is it still the rule in places now? Or am I mixing this up with Eastern Christians? Are there still Anglican religious orders that hold to poverty, celibacy, obedience?
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GKC is working tax issues and property issues and other fascinating stuff. Deadline.
  1. Varies. Some say 7. Some say 4. Some don’t reply.
  2. Yes, true. Yes, scheduled in some parishes, by appointment in others. Yes as to Continuing, certainly assume so as to ACNA, particularity if the Ordinary is +Iker.
  3. Don’t know. As to Orders, yes.
Back to taxes, etc.

GKC
 
aidanbradypop said:
A heard once that the “truth is measured only by those that believe it.” Simple enough I believe.

I believe the Catholic Church teaches truth as well as the Baptist Church, Methodist…etc. Every Christian faith preaches a certain truth that is believed by those that are in communion with that faith.

Do I wish for everyone to become an Episcopalian? Sure I do. If I did not believe that then I have no business in TEC as I am certain you believe each and every person should convert to Catholicism. Now is it reasonable for me to demand such? No! I believe everyone should follow their conscience in fatters of faith. If one feels that the RCC is the place that teaches the fullness of truth then I gladly give my blessings.
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Well, that is an answer that I can respect. And I agree with you, I can’t demand that people become Catholic. And, if in the pursuit of Evangelizing I am heavy handed then I’m only going to scare people away. The only one who converts people is the Holy Spirit, however that doesn’t mean we sit in our Churches and pray that the Holy Spirit converts people.

Prayer is a huge part of all parts of faith, but the answer to those prayers that people would convert could very well being us explaining our faith, recommending books, sermons, videos on youtube, etc. The Holy Spirit alone makes seeds grow, but if no seeds are planted then the Holy Spirit has nothing to work with (short of miraculous occurrences, visions, etc.)

We can’t make the Holy Spirit an excuse to not fulfill the Great Commission. We should still try our hardest for the conversion of souls, and if we do, our efforts will most likely yield fruit (even if we can’t see it).
 
RC_Sojourner said:
Well, that is an answer that I can respect. And I agree with you, I can’t demand that people become Catholic. And, if in the pursuit of Evangelizing I am heavy handed then I’m only going to scare people away. The only one who converts people is the Holy Spirit, however that doesn’t mean we sit in our Churches and pray that the Holy Spirit converts people.

Prayer is a huge part of all parts of faith, but the answer to those prayers that people would convert could very well being us explaining our faith, recommending books, sermons, videos on youtube, etc. The Holy Spirit alone makes seeds grow, but if no seeds are planted then the Holy Spirit has nothing to work with (short of miraculous occurrences, visions, etc.)

We can’t make the Holy Spirit an excuse to not fulfill the Great Commission. We should still try our hardest for the conversion of souls, and if we do, our efforts will most likely yield fruit (even if we can’t see it).
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I completely agree! I believe it comes down to more of the individual rather than the Church itself. Meaning the Church can preach everyday to evangelize yet if we do nothing then all that preaching was in vain.
 
Contarini said:
Evangelization is bringing people to Jesus, not to one’s own particular tradition.
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No argument there.

I’d like to chime in with this: If someone is, let’s say, considering whether to join Catholicism or Orthodoxy, I wouldn’t have any qualms about trying to convince him/her that Catholicism is the way to go. But if someone was already Orthodox, then I wouldn’t encourage him/her to leave Orthodoxy for Catholicism.
 
Peter_J said:
No argument there.

I’d like to chime in with this: If someone is, let’s say, considering whether to join Catholicism or Orthodoxy, I wouldn’t have any qualms about trying to convince him/her that Catholicism is the way to go. But if someone was already Orthodox, then I wouldn’t encourage him/her to leave Orthodoxy for Catholicism.
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Completely agree!
 
commenter said:
Since GKC is obviously squandering his time on prayer, scripture, and spiritual and corporal works of mercy, and neglecting his Internet duties, I put this out to any of the tea-and-Guiness drinkers out there.
  1. I assume Anglicans accept as authoritative early ecumenical councils, like Nicea. Would they accept the authority of any other councils up to Trent? Do they regard Trent and later councils as having any teaching significance for non-Catholics?
  2. I believe Anglican clergy can hear confessions if requested. If true, is it an actual practice, on a scheduled basis, in Anglo-Catholic congregations, for instance? What about in ACNA or the Continuing Anglican churches? Or is it a rare occurrence?
  3. Wasn’t there a period of time when married men could get ordained, but priests could not marry? If so, about when was that era, is it still the rule in places now? Or am I mixing this up with Eastern Christians? Are there still Anglican religious orders that hold to poverty, celibacy, obedience?
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Sorry. For some reason I did not see this post.
  1. As GKC stated, it depends on what type of Anglican you ask.
  2. You can schedule a private confession if needed.
  3. For the Episcopal Church, clergy could always marry. May have been different in the earlier Church. 🤷
Anglican orders require celibacy.
 
aidanbradypop said:
Sorry. For some reason I did not see this post.
  1. As GKC stated, it depends on what type of Anglican you ask.
  2. You can schedule a private confession if needed.
  3. For the Episcopal Church, clergy could always marry. May have been different in the earlier Church. 🤷
Anglican orders require celibacy.
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You mean don’t?
 
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