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Zachary:
Evolution doesn’t disprove God
Indeed not. But it does put Him out of yet another job historically attributed to Him.
That’s right. But you believe in it.
I don’t understand infinity in the physical sense, and only barely just in the mathematical sense. I don’t know that you could say I “believe in” infinity.
Anyway, what does PLP stand for?
It stands for “Poodle Lovin’ Pessimist”, a humorous reference to the philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer (whom I don’t even admire all that much). I chose the full appellation rather hastily for my account at Infidels, and although I’ve repented my frivolity at leisure, I seem to be stuck with it.
Who’s your favourite baseball team?
The home team, or the favorite team of the person I’m sitting next to. I don’t watch TV (I don’t even own one), I’m not much of a sports fan, and I’m even less of a baseball fan. I used to be a football fan many years ago; I was fortunate to live in San Francisco when the 49ers were great and then Denver when the Broncos were great.
 
MORE ON THE EVOLUTION OF ATHEISTS. (Ref posts #166 and #168)

If it were only a matter of babies we would all be bacteria!

As a student I wrote a similar tongue in cheek article about radical feminists. I must have struck a chord. Some of the radical feminists – mainly older faculty – started referring to me as “THAT CATHOLIC BITCH!” I regarded it as a compliment. 🙂

It may also be accurate. I’m Catholic and I’m a bit bitchy at times so… 🙂 🙂

Now the interesting question is can a “Catholic bitch” get tenure in Australian academe?

Watch this space.

Selection takes place at many levels. One is at the level of the gene itself – Dawkins’ selfish gene theory.

Another is at the level of bodies. No matter how selfish a gene, if it makes the body unfit it may not get passed on to the next generation.

A third level may well be groups. One theory is that religious belief evolved because it conferred a survival advantage on the GROUP.

You know, us religios will go and fight to the death in the hope of getting a reward in the sky while you atheists will flee in terror. So in the end the group with a proportion of religios in it will end up controlling all the best territory.

Now, for a cluster of genes to survive it needs to be passed on to the next generation. And atheist women may not be having enough babies to replace themselves. Effectively they may not be passing on their genes to succeeding generations.

There is ALWAYS selective pressure PLP. One source of selective pressure is the pill, good condoms and cheap, freely available abortion. That is the selective pressure that may – for good or ill – result in a diminution in the proportion of atheists in the population.

We may be seeing something like this happening in Europe where secular Europeans are being replaced by religious Muslims.

Think about it.

God bless,

Kristin
 
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kristinma:
You know, us religios will go and fight to the death in the hope of getting a reward in the sky while you atheists will flee in terror. So in the end the group with a proportion of religios in it will end up controlling all the best territory.
sez you! I say atheists would fight harder because this life is all we have. I suppose, sadly, it will come to a fight sooner or later; I suppose then we’ll know the truth for sure.
We may be seeing something like this happening in Europe where secular Europeans are being replaced by religious Muslims.
I will always want to believe what is true, not that which is more advantageous. If the truth does not confer a selective advantage, so be it.

If you really believe this, though, I hope you’re popping out Catholic babies as quickly as you can!
 
All I have to say is that you deserve to go to hell and I couldnt care less
 
PLP,

I think you are taking my last couple of posts altogether too seriously. 🙂 🙂 🙂

Lighten up.

Hope you have a healthy & peaceful 2006.

God bless,

Kristin
 
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Zachary:
All I have to say is that you deserve to go to hell and I couldnt care less
Zachary?! Why did you say that?
You do not have the right.
 
D Quintero:
Zachary?! Why did you say that?
You do not have the right.
Of course I do, just read his comment - it is pitiful and stupid to say something like that to somebody.
 
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tomaskovarik:
Of course I do, just read his comment - it is pitiful and stupid to say something like that to somebody.
Sorry for the confusion. I was talking about Zachary, not you.
 
D Quintero:
Sorry for the confusion. I was talking about Zachary, not you.
Good.
I think that Zachary just had his bad moment or something. But it just drives me nuts when people say these things. It is actually more typical of some evangelicals, don’t you think? Can you imagine Jesus saying “go to hell and I don’t care”?
 
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kristinma:
I think you are taking my last couple of posts altogether too seriously. 🙂 🙂 🙂

Lighten up.
I don’t know. I think you made some good points which deserved to be addressed. But I’m not taking them all that seriously; it’s not like I’m filled with existential despair or anything.
Hope you have a healthy & peaceful 2006.
Likewise!
 
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Zachary:
All I have to say is that you deserve to go to hell and I couldnt care less
I’m sorry I’ve offended you. I’ll say again: It is sincerely not my intention to give offense in any manner.
 
Adonia,

We shall all need, if not luck, a great deal of help from Jesus, on our death day.

I know that it will require an extraordinary amount of grace and zillions of years in purgatory for me to get to heaven.

God bless,

Kristin
 
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kristinma:
Adonia,

We shall all need, if not luck, a great deal of help from Jesus, on our death day.

I know that it will require an extraordinary amount of grace and zillions of years in purgatory for me to get to heaven.

God bless,

Kristin
Since that person is an Atheist, that is why I offered good luck to them. I , like you, have an Advocate in Jesus and perhaps I should be praying for our lost friend. Yes, that is what I will do. God Bless You also.
 
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PLP:
I’m sorry I’ve offended you. I’ll say again: It is sincerely not my intention to give offense in any manner.
I apologize because no person deserves to go to hell until they been passed judgement. I honestly cannto remember what triggered that response of me (except, of course, the excessive alcohol I’d had…) I’m embarassed and ashamed of myself.
 
PLP, I know you don’t believe there’s anything to pray to…But have you ever tried praying for the gift of faith, or for God to reveal
Himself to you(the Holy Spirit)?

I don’t believe true Christian faith(or any montheistic faith) has to contradict modern science or be afraid of any scientific discoveries. I personally don’t believe in Darwinian evolution, but if it were discovered to be definitavely true- it wouldn’t shake my faith because I’d figure well that’s the way God decided to created the universe and people. In fact the Catholic Church has not discounted evolution -provided that it’s understood that human souls are not the process of evolution but direct creations of God.
I also don’t believe the world is 10,000 years old or that it was created in 6 -24 hour days because we now know it didn’t happen that way. God exists outside of our 3 dimentional universe and outside of time so 15 billion years or so to us are meaninless to God. I do believe in some sort of evolution(but with definate guidance from the Almighty).
I also have some atheist(mostly agnostic) friends and relatives- I pray for them - but we agree to disagree.
 
I did not read through many of the posts so I dont know if anyone has already made this arguement or not.

You mentioned that the believer (in God) has the burden of proof because it is a positive statement. But consider this:

You are saying that there is no God, which means you must have knowledge of all that does exist before you can exclude God. Here is an example: Let’s say I have a drawer with 3 things in it; a pen, a marker and a ruler. I can positively say that there is no pencil in that drawer. The reason I can say this is because I already know exactly what is in the drawer and a pencil is not one of the things.

The more things you have to consider the more difficult this type of reasoning becomes. Here is another example: Let’s say that we are in a crowded football stadium and I make the claim that there is no one by the name of John Smith present in this stadium. For me to make that statement requires that I know the names of everyone that is present in that stadium before I can say that none of them is named John Smith. Would you believe me if I made a statement like that without then having me demonstrate that I know everyones name.

So I think that for you to say that God does not exist you now have the burden of proving that you do know all that exists in the entire universe and because of this knowledge you were able to determine that God does not exist. Even the brightest scientist would not claim to know all that exists in the universe.
 
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