Attending Get-Together for Homosexual Couple

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No, but it looks like they keep trying to make it look that way.
 
I went…I watched and played games with my little sister who is 6 in the living room away from all the people. I know that their conversations did include “congratulating” the “couple” on their “wedding” and all of that was mentioned. I felt my sister should not have to go and be confused about all the rainbows and pretending going on. We went outside to eat dinner, but that was it.

My dad got the “couple” a card congratulating them but I refused to sign it. He was not happy about this. I said a rosary for all the people there as well.

At mass on Sunday, my priest gave his homily on compassion. After mass, my parents brought up how our family did the “compassionate” thing by going to the get together. Later, I told my dad I felt that what was done was not compassionate. These were two men born Catholic who therefore have that undeniable mark on their souls. By their actions, they are being denied what their soul truly desires. The card and get together enabled, affirmed, and tolerated their actions which remove them from God. I do not see this as compassionate.
 
SeriousQuestion said:
Certain sins have more gravity and a lax attitude usually leads to a normalization of it.
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Not too sure what that has to do with idleness leading to sodomy or not associating with public sinners as we’re all in essence the latter and I can’t say I’ve ever heard of the former.

The poster didn’t mean the former in a metaphorical manner.
 
Public sinner usually means that they are well known for committing sins of a graver nature than most people.
 
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RunMan said:
My dad got the “couple” a card congratulating them but I refused to sign it. He was not happy about this.
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Oh well :man_shrugging:t2: His friend not yours.
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The card and get together enabled, affirmed, and tolerated their actions which remove them from God. I do not see this as compassionate.
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I don’t know why anyone would say it’s compassionate…
 
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RunMan:
My dad got the “couple” a card congratulating them but I refused to sign it. He was not happy about this.
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Oh well :man_shrugging:t2: His friend not yours.
RunMan said:
The card and get together enabled, affirmed, and tolerated their actions which remove them from God. I do not see this as compassionate.
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I don’t know why anyone would say it’s compassionate…
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By refusing to congratulate the couple, what would have been accomplished? Would the father’s friend have decided to split up with his spouse because his best friend did not approve? Of course, not. Would his feelings have been hurt and would his relationship with the OP’s father have been damaged? Quite possibly.

If someone doesn’t want to do something because it violates their beliefs or principals, then they can certainly do that and there’s something to be said for standing up for what you believe. But there can be consequences, which in this case might have required losing a friend.

But if anyone thinks that by refusing to attend a same-sex marriage or reception that they are going to prevent it from becoming “normalized” in society at large, it’s much too late for that. As the old sayings go, “the horse has left the barn,” and “the ship has sailed.” According to a Pew Research poll from 2014, “85% of self-identified Catholics ages 18-29 said in a 2014 Pew Research Center survey that homosexuality should be accepted by society, compared with just 13% who said it should be discouraged,” and “three-quarters of Catholic adults under 30 support legal same-sex marriage.” Another poll from last year found that “two-thirds of Catholics now support same-sex marriage,” and that includes people who identify as Catholic of all ages, not just those under 30.
 
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I once read from Saint Theresa that a person in mortal sin was like someone who was bound in chains and are hell bound (not to say that the couples are) The true compassionate thing to do is to help them be free from their sin and to help them to obtain their salvation. I don’t think any of the love-dovey stuff is going to actually work.
 
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In my experience, this kind of thing usually leads to a lot of unhappiness all around. My same-sex partner and I have been together for more than 20 years, but his father, a conservative pastor, has refused to acknowledge our relationship, no doubt because he considers it sinful. When he sends Christmas cards, they are only addressed to his son and I am never included and he has never sent me a birthday card or a Christmas present. The result is that my partner has refused to talk to his father over the last 20 years. This has no doubt caused his father a lot of distress, but his father’s refusal to accept him has also been very painful for my partner and talking to his father just makes him feel worse. So, everyone is unhappy, but, I guess that the father feels that he’d rather lose a relationship with his son than God’s approval. My partner’s father, now in his mid 80s, will probably die before there is any reconciliation between father and son.

By comparison, my own parents have accepted my partner. They always ask me about him when they call, and they send him birthday cards and Christmas presents. He is always welcome when we go to their house, etc. And I still have a great relationship with both of my parents.
 
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PLeasedonotbenieve said:
I firmly believe that we are all equal, and that everyone should be treated the same. Gay marriage is an acknowledgement of equality. Two people should be able to formalize their relationship, regardless of whether they are both men, both women, or one of each. God has told us to love our neighbors and show people that we love them no matter what. Ignoring that couple is only going to hinder their possibility of being saved. Be kind to them. I’m sure they have endured a lot of hate in their lives and giving them more hate is neither moral nor catholic. You don’t have to approve of their actions but do not hate the people themselves. Remember that God loves everyone regardless of their sexuality. I am a pansexual Christian, and this is my opinion on the situation. Go to that event. Nothing is going to be changed by hate and nothing good comes from it either. Share the love <3
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Dont go. The church is against homosexual marriage. Not going isnt “hate” it is just disagreeing with the sin they are committing. God loves everyone, but he doesnt love the sin they are creating.
 
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But if anyone thinks that by refusing to attend a same-sex marriage or reception that they are going to prevent it from becoming “normalized” in society at large, it’s much too late for that.
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One could say the same thing about legalized abortion, but I don’t think one ought to do that…that is, just because society thinks it is a right does not mean it is time to throw up one’s hands and join in.
 
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Well, your best friend knows what you thought about the situation when they first moved in with each other. They are not going to be surprised when you take a pass on that particular party.

Yes, if you lose a friend because they want you to change the principles you have always had in order to accommodate them, that’s the way life goes. The best they can hope for is that you will only tell them it is wrong to move in before they marry so many times before you decide the subject has been covered and the dust from it can be shaken off of your feet.
 
It was a difficult situation; I think you handled it as well as could be managed. The good thing about your being there is that you were able to distract your younger sister and maintain her innocence about the whole thing as well as could be managed.
 
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Thorolfr:
But if anyone thinks that by refusing to attend a same-sex marriage or reception that they are going to prevent it from becoming “normalized” in society at large, it’s much too late for that.
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One could say the same thing about legalized abortion, but I don’t think one ought to do that…that is, just because society thinks it is a right does not mean it is time to throw up one’s hands and join in.
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Legalized abortion is not something in my experience that has much of an effect on family relationships or friendships. I don’t think I’ve ever discussed this issue with anyone before even though I’m sure that some of my friends and family are against abortion and some are in favor of legalized abortion. I can see both sides of this debate and even though I’m pretty liberal on most things, I do feel somewhat conflicted about this issue.

Marriages, on the other hand, are by their very nature an event that involves the friends and family of the two people getting married in a more direct way. Either you attend and congratulate the new couple or you don’t attend. So if family members or friends of someone who is getting married refuse to attend the wedding, especially if it is a close friend or family member, this has the potential to create a lot of divisions in families and to damage friendships. And as same-sex marriages become more common, this will become more of a problem in some families and in some friendships.
 
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And, tell me, has your partner’s father’s actions led either of you closer to Christ?
 
I don’t think those lovey-dovey actions work any better.
 
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