Australian suggests his country's bushfires and droughts are punishments for its same-sex and abortion laws

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‘Bushfires due to same-sex, abortion laws’

‘Bushfires due to same-sex, abortion laws’
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“Look how rapid, these bushfires, these droughts, all these things have come, in a short period of time. You think it’s a coincidence or not?”…

“God is speaking to you guys, Australia, you need to repent"…
 
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I agree the fires are terrible. I’m just uncertain that homosexuals and abortionists will think this is logical reasoning…because it’s not.

Now, if there were fires everywhere all at the same time in every country that had legal abortions and same sex unions but no where else, it might make a bit more sense to link them together.

Who was the pastor that blamed the Louisiana hurricane on the same thing? Louisiana gets punished for the sins of all America type statements made him look foolish, too. Especially to Louisianan’s!
 
I would defend Israel Folau’s freedom to say that. I’m no fan of these laws.
However, theologically, this suggestion from him is problematic.
For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. -Mt 5:45
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Pattylt said:
’m just uncertain that homosexuals and abortionists will think this is logical reasoning…because it’s not.
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And I am just not sure that homosexuals and abortionists, with all their “logic”, constitute a moral authority.
 
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I would defend Israel Folau’s freedom to say that. I’m no fan of these laws.
However, theologically, this suggestion from him is problematic.
For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. -Mt 5:45
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I also defend Folau’s freedom to express his beliefs, but yes theologically is reflects ‘karma’ rather than Christian belief. The trouble with non Buddhists invoking ‘karma’ type events is that they only invoke it regarding suffering brought on others. Not the suffering brought to themselves. It’s a judgemental call of the type we are warned against by Scripture.
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Since I’m guessing the ‘draughts’ in your headline didn’t refer to beer, I edited it to read ‘droughts.’
 
Well said! Biggest fire in our state’s history burning an entire city down to the ground called Paradise because of our state’s sinfulness. No such thing as coincidences 😵
 
Adamek said:
And I am just not sure that homosexuals and abortionists, with all their “logic”, constitute a moral authority.
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I’m not claiming they are a moral authority. What is the point of blaming it on these sins? Is it the hope they will take the blame and change their ways? Or, is it a way for Christians to place blame elsewhere? Do you think the Church considers these as reasons for natural disasters? I’m trying to figure out the point of these types of statements.
 
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What is the point of blaming it on these sins? Is it the hope they will take the blame and change their ways? Or, is it a way for Christians to place blame elsewhere? Do you think the Church considers these as reasons for natural disasters? I’m trying to figure out the point of these types of statements.
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I know nothing of the fire problems or the politics of Australia. And this also goes for the person who made the statement, or his motivation for making such a statement.
What strikes me as interesting is that he may be the only Christian in the world to suggest that the natural disaster is an act of God showing His wrath. One has to actually believe in the existence of God and his interest in us here in earth to make such a claim.
The rest of us will laugh and jeer at such a statement, which in itself a statement about the way we perceive God almighty, creator of heaven and earth. We repeat these words in the Credo every Sunday, but do we actually believe them? I will argue that if we actually did believe these words, then the statement about the fires in Australia would not shock us the way it does.
 
I’m American and have no clue re Australian politicians but imo he’d probably be a good PM.
 
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Opinions vary. Some punishment is directly linked to the sin, i.e. hangovers from drinking to excess. Others, well, not so clear. However, I suspect that there have been brush fires in Oz for quite some time.
 
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Opinions vary. Some punishment is directly linked to the sin, i.e. hangovers from drinking to excess. Others, well, not so clear. However, I suspect that there have been brush fires in Oz for quite some time.
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True. Much of our knowledge of back burning came from the example of the indigeous people who dealt with it for a long time before white man arrived.
 
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To be fair, he didn’t just speak out against homosexuality, he said gay people would go to Hell. That’s an important distinction I feel.
 
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That’s why he’d never get elected. (Sarc)
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His footy club keeps trying to sack him.

He came put and said SSM was wrong, a while ago. Everyone in support of SSM went into angry hornets nest formation.
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His footy club was the national side. He was one of the best players around. But rugby (indeed all sport in Australia) is doing its best to be as inclusive as it can. Folau therefore found himself in trouble when he tweeted that all homosexuals would go to hell. His position in the national team was such that he was looked up to by many youngsters. And telling a not insignificant proportion of them that they were going to spend eternity in hell because of how they felt didn’t go down well.

He was called in to HQ and the matter explained to him that no-one had a problem in him having whatever beliefs he wanted but going public as a very well known sportsman with these type of views was damaging. So he agreed that he woukdn’t do it again.

But he did, therefore breaking his contract and was sacked.

He is now free to say whatever he likes using whatever social media he prefers as often as he likes.
 
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“Look how rapid, these bushfires, these droughts, all these things have come, in a short period of time. You think it’s a coincidence or not?”…

“God is speaking to you guys, Australia, you need to repent"…
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This type of rhetoric isn’t convincing at all so it does more harm than good.
 
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