Australians Say ‘Yes’ to Same-Sex Marriage, Clearing Path for Legalization

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State endorsement of SSM will have consequences too. Same Sex sexual relationships are now societally declared to be “good”, just as marriage is declared to be “good”. Much must (and will) logically follow from that.
They weren’t already?
 
I have been meaning to say, I really appreciate your posts here, Josh, especially those sympathetic to the US and us Americans. It really weighs down on you when, even on this forum, one gets the impression that the whole world thinks you are crazy. God bless you too.
Thank you redbetta, I’m so thankful to read and have encouragement from other faithful Catholics and others on these forums like yourself.

Thank you again for this very warm and encouraging post. I really appreciate it. I always hope that I’ve done a good job.

God Bless You redbetta. 🙂
 
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Economic sanctions, massive funding for media, lobbying for new hate speech laws, blackmail, etc.
? If it resulted in no, we could have resisted it, now that it’s resulted in yes, they will do all that and much more without any resistance, the only positive I can see, is that with free reign they will become so bad, that what remains will be faithful Catholics. Rather than the pretend ones who vote yes to all this kind of stuff. It will separate the wheat from the chaff.

God Bless You

Thank you for reading.
 
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Josh, as a fellow Australian, I can only continue to pray for our country.
But in one of the larger banks this morning I saw that the Christmas decorations were,wreathes of wattle blossoms, accompanied with cheeky cockatoos, and the greeting, “A season to Shine”
Pretty, but a further sobering sign of the de-Christianisation of our nation.
 
It’s not true that homosexuality is opposed only by the religious. The atheist communists also opposed it.
 
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Whether you like it or not, Western society is changing.
The rise of every fascist regime in history said the exact same thing.
Oh yes, every fascist regime legalized gay marriage.
 
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The politicians are indicating that they are unwilling to grant any exceptions to the obligations of others to provide services to same sex marriages, other than to religious celebrants. [Apparently that is sufficient to preserver religious freedoms. :roll_eyes:] A photographer/videographer cannot decline to prepare a beautiful memento in pictures and video for a same sex ceremony if he ordinarily provides that service to marriages of man+woman. I imagine in due course, educational curricula will recognise the need to broaden sex education “appropriately”.

But isn’t that taking away the religious freedom of individuals to choose whether they want to provide that service because of their belief…and so it begins
 
Gay “marriages” = no kids. The religious will have big families and overtake them in time.

Let the dogs eat their own vomit, if that’s the way they want it. Good people can fight them in the courts for their religious rights in the meantime.
 
A photographer/videographer cannot decline to prepare a beautiful memento in pictures and video for a same sex ceremony if he ordinarily provides that service to marriages of man+woman.
This is an outrage! If this happens in Canada I’m going to say it’s against my freedom of religion! 😤
 
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Oh yes, every fascist regime legalized gay marriage.
Every fascist regime despised their ancestors and sought new contradictory heights. The very argument despises all your ancestors, the very founders and builders of our western nations and the freedoms we have enjoyed in the west. Pride, arrogance and debauchery is what this is and as such, these nations will all fall whoever embraces this.

It shows we are no longer a Christian Country, and as such, the rise of atheism always, always leads to fascism, as will be no different with same sex marriage that places myself and the Church outside the law. It will be taught to kids in schools that myself and the Church are prejudiced, hateful, homophobic and bigoted, thus leading to our inevitable persecution, and since they will be corrupted sexually at such young ages, they will become very debased and wicked, showing little mercy in their persecution.

There is a much wider agenda at play, it’s ironic you being an atheist who doesn’t believe in marriage to begin with campaign so hard for so called ‘same sex marriage’ If it’s not indissoluble and has nothing to do with the reproductive system and kids (man + woman) than it is totally meaningless.

Atheism practiced as well as in theory is a frightening prospect. And when a society votes in this folly of same sex marriage, that is exactly where it’s headed

“For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.”
 
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Gay “marriages” = no kids.
No, it doesn’t. Some gay people do willfully engage in reproduction. Sometimes one partner or the other engages, or both. Sometimes they also adopt.
 
Josh, as a fellow Australian, I can only continue to pray for our country.
Thank you Trishie. If were lucky, they can have free reign with their gender theory programs and other such things and maybe there are enough Australians not given over to total debauchery that can wake up. And hopefully it’s in time to do something about it.

God Bless You Trishie, so happy to know there are fellow Aussies like yourself 🙂
 
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But isn’t that taking away the religious freedom of individuals to choose whether they want to provide that service because of their belief…and so it begins
Yes, I would have thought so. However, the politicians so far are unwilling to grant exceptions more widely than to marriage celebrants and some religious or charitable institutions.
 
This is an outrage! If this happens in Canada I’m going to say it’s against my freedom of religion!
Others have tried unsuccessfully, Asher’s bakery case was so wrong. Only in the USA under Trump do I think one has a chance now.

I think Australia will soon be in the same boat as Canada, our only chance I think is for a Trump like candidate as a 3rd option from the two major parties.

God Bless You Joe1
 
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This is an outrage! If this happens in Canada…
It has already happened in the US and is probably the same in Canada. In situ anti-discrimination laws will probably be held to prevent service providers from refusing a SSM - it will be regarded as no different than refusing because of the sexual orientation of those involved. This is understandable given the law regards SSM as “marriage”. Thus, the only way to be excused for refusal is if the law grants an exception as it reasonably should, but may well not.
 
Others have tried unsuccessfully, Asher’s bakery case was so wrong. Only in the USA under Trump do I think one has a chance now.

I think Australia will soon be in the same boat as Canada, our only chance I think is for a Trump like candidate as a 3rd option from the two major parties.

God Bless You Joe1
Thank you Josh. May God bless you too. Also thanks for the video!
 
it will be regarded as no different than refusing because of the sexual orientation of those involved.
I see. I just wish the state would realize that they were not discriminating Because of sexual orientation. They were refusing to bake a cake because it celebrated an act (not an attraction) that is a sin. The state seems to think that an attraction (orientation) is the same as an act, which surprises me because the two are different, and this distinction is even found in the Catechesism.
 
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