Austrian bishops barred from Jewish holy site in Jerusalem for wearing crosses

[wifeandmomoftwo]

**Are they still God’s Chosen People or aren’t they? If not, when did they cease being God’s Chosen People?

If they are God’s Chosen People in the world, then they *would ***have ‘special’ rights.

So as “chosen people” they in turn can persecute others?

Also I was wondering since people keep bringing up how jews have been persecuted that it somehow makes it ok that they persecute others.

 

[Lev23]

So as “chosen people” they in turn can persecute others?

Also I was wondering since people keep bringing up how jews have been persecuted that it somehow makes it ok that they persecute others.

As a mom of two, stop it with the childish questions.

Of course this doesnt’ make them special so they can persecute others

 

[peary]

So as “chosen people” they in turn can persecute others?

Also I was wondering since people keep bringing up how jews have been persecuted that it somehow makes it ok that they persecute others.

**You keep posting that the Jews continue to persecute others. Who exactly are they persecuting?? **

 

[RomanCrusader]

**You keep posting that the Jews continue to persecute others. Who exactly are they persecuting?? **

(I POSTED THIS ALREADY!!!)

Historically, from 33 AD to 600 AD, Jews massacred Christians.

There were massacres of Christians by Jews in many instances. In the Najran massacre Jews, led by Dhu Nawas, killed 20,000 Christians and forced thousands more to convert. In the Jerusalem massacres (614) the Jews (aided by pagan Persians) killed around 90,000 Christians. In, Inmester, Syria, a Jewish mob kidnapped a 10 year old Christian boy and crucified him as a sacrifice for the Jewish holiday of Purim. In Alexandria, 410, the Jews tried to massacre the population, but were thankfully stopped by Roman soldiers.

Many of the early martyrs were victims of Jewish persecutions.

In Israel today Christians are persecuted, as this event shows.

Christians and Jews have both persecuted each other.

 

[RomanCrusader]

No other people have had the “final solution” attempted on them and their land more than Israel.

Yes, but today certain Jews exploit the victims of the holocaust to benefit themselves.

Do you honestly think the holocaust victims would appreciate the massive number of movies,plays, books, etc. made dramatizing the whole thing? It seems more about money to me than anything else.

For crying out loud, the ADL has a whole “holocaust” section. Why? It happened 60 years ago, it was horrible yes, but lets move on!

 

[wifeandmomoftwo]

Yes, but today certain Jews exploit the victims of the holocaust to benefit themselves.

Do you honestly think the holocaust victims would appreciate the massive number of movies,plays, books, etc. made dramatizing the whole thing? It seems more about money to me than anything else.

For crying out loud, the ADL has a whole “holocaust” section. Why? It happened 60 years ago, it was horrible yes, but lets move on!

amen:

 

[Valke2]

Believe me when I say that I look forward to the day when I can be veiwed as a hysteric. I have Crusader on ignore, but since you copied his post, I can only say that I was not surprised to read, yet again, how jews are using the holocaust to profit themselves. My only surprise is that it took so long for such statements to be made.

I’m done with this thread.

 

[peary]

(I POSTED THIS ALREADY!!!)

Historically, from 33 AD to 600 AD, Jews massacred Christians.

There were massacres of Christians by Jews in many instances. In the Najran massacre Jews, led by Dhu Nawas, killed 20,000 Christians and forced thousands more to convert. In the Jerusalem massacres (614) the Jews (aided by pagan Persians) killed around 90,000 Christians. In, Inmester, Syria, a Jewish mob kidnapped a 10 year old Christian boy and crucified him as a sacrifice for the Jewish holiday of Purim. In Alexandria, 410, the Jews tried to massacre the population, but were thankfully stopped by Roman soldiers.

Many of the early martyrs were victims of Jewish persecutions.

In Israel today Christians are persecuted, as this event shows.

Christians and Jews have both persecuted each other.

You failed to answer my question. I asked WHO ARE THEY PERSECUTING (present)? In the past 1800 years WHO HAVE THEY PERSECUTED? Seems to me that you have it all backwards.

 

[Lev23]

Yes, but today certain Jews exploit the victims of the holocaust to benefit themselves.

Do you honestly think the holocaust victims would appreciate the massive number of movies,plays, books, etc. made dramatizing the whole thing? It seems more about money to me than anything else.

For crying out loud, the ADL has a whole “holocaust” section. Why? It happened 60 years ago, it was horrible yes, but lets move on!

Sorry if 60 years ago is not close enough for you. We all know many other peoples were dragged into the teeth of the Nazis, including catholics. But for the Jews, they were the ones marked for extinction.

Why don’t you and momof2 tell us how to move on properly when there is a rise of neo-nazi Jewish hatred going on in Germany right now. And most of it goes on unpunished.

Google “Rhodes Jews” and explain to me why the Nazis even had to take these peaceful Jews from their quite homes from this island to Auschwitz. Were these Jews to accused of running the world by proxy(banks, media, etc.), like much of todays Jew is accused of? And it is unbelievable how even some Christians accuse Jews of cashing in on this horrible event by “dramatizing” it.

I’ll stick with the Jewish slogan after the Holocaust rather than your “lets move on”.

That slogan is "Never Again!"

 

[wifeandmomoftwo]

Sorry if 60 years ago is not close enough for you. We all know many other peoples were dragged into the teeth of the Nazis, including catholics. But for the Jews, they were the ones marked for extinction.

Yes please lets not forget the millions of others (not jews) killed by the nazi’s.

Why don’t you and momof2 tell us how to move on properly when there is a rise of neo-nazi Jewish hatred going on in Germany right now. And most of it goes on unpunished.

Anything to do with Nazism or anti-semitism in Germany is punished. It is not taken lightly there–

That slogan is "Never Again!"

Yup never again! Never again mass murder anybody regardless of their sexual orientation, mental disability, religion, ethnic makeup etc.!

 

[Lev23]

Link

Thirteen Austrian bishops were barred from praying at Jerusalem’s Western Wall last week by Jewish religious authorities when they refused to take off their crosses, according to Austrian officials. On a planned visit on Thursday to the wall — the holiest place where Jews can pray — the bishops were given an ultimatum by the rabbi of the site: Either remove the crosses or stand behind a fence several meters (yards) from the site. The bishops refused the request and watched people praying from behind the fence, according to an Austrian official.

I bet the Godless people of peace and tolerance are just gloating with joy over this one. May God convert the hearts of these perfidious people.

Maybe the Rabbi of the site is against Chinese sweat shops.

 

[bones_IV]

Sorry if 60 years ago is not close enough for you. We all know many other peoples were dragged into the teeth of the Nazis, including catholics. But for the Jews, they were the ones marked for extinction.

Why don’t you and momof2 tell us how to move on properly when there is a rise of neo-nazi Jewish hatred going on in Germany right now. And most of it goes on unpunished.

Google “Rhodes Jews” and explain to me why the Nazis even had to take these peaceful Jews from their quite homes from this island to Auschwitz. Were these Jews to accused of running the world by proxy(banks, media, etc.), like much of todays Jew is accused of? And it is unbelievable how even some Christians accuse Jews of cashing in on this horrible event by “dramatizing” it.

I’ll stick with the Jewish slogan after the Holocaust rather than your “lets move on”.

That slogan is "Never Again!"

It just wasn’t the Jews the Nazi’s went after. I’m so sick of having to go through this. I lost 3 million of my Catholic brethren in those camps. Levi23, we Catholics are constantly associated with the Third Reich! I just want to ring people’s necks when they say that. Read Eichman’s journal sometime and you’ll see how much the Nazis “loved” the Church.

I can think of a worst holocaust. ** ABORTION! **I don’t see the ADL’s anger there. To Abraham Foxman, Human Life International, American Life League, EWTN and CAF are “noise makers”. In other words he calls us right wing organizations. How do you think we Catholics feel? Get over yourself.

 

[RomanCrusader]

Sorry if 60 years ago is not close enough for you. We all know many other peoples were dragged into the teeth of the Nazis, including catholics. But for the Jews, they were the ones marked for extinction.

As were Slavs. What about them?

Why don’t you and momof2 tell us how to move on properly when there is a rise of neo-nazi Jewish hatred going on in Germany right now. And most of it goes on unpunished.

The explanation (this is not a justification) for neo-nazism in Germany is quite simple: The Germans have been cruelly slandered for 60 years. 60 years of being labelled nazis. 60 years of not being allowed to be proud of their nation. 60 years of being the “bad guy” of Europe. Germans cannot even proudly wave their flag without being accused of being “nazis”.

The Germans are being unfairly forced by the world to bear this stupid guilt-complex for their past. It is ridiculous.

America killed the Natives. England killed the Irish. Russia killed the Ukranians. Japan killed the Chinese/Filipinos/Koreans/Vietnamese/etc. And yet none of these countries are being forced to bear a guilt complex. Only Germany is.

The Germans are understandably getting fed up. One way the Germans are venting their anger is turning into what everyone unfairly labels them as: neo-nazis. Call someone something over and over and eventually they will accept that label themselves.

Nazism is an abhorrent and evil ideology, and I make no justification for those who believe in it. However, if the world would just leave the Germans alone and let them have some pride then this problem would be non-existant.

Google “Rhodes Jews” and explain to me why the Nazis even had to take these peaceful Jews from their quite homes from this island to Auschwitz. Were these Jews to accused of running the world by proxy(banks, media, etc.), like much of todays Jew is accused of?

I have no idea why they were taken to Aushwitz. That is a tragedy. I don’t really see what you are getting at here.

I’ll stick with the Jewish slogan after the Holocaust rather than your “lets move on”.

That slogan is "Never Again!"

I agree, it should never happen again. But what makes the holocaust so much more “worse” than any other genocide? I see all genocides as equally bad. In WWII, the Japanese behaved argueably more barbarically than the Nazis, and yet we really don’t hear much about the atrocities committed in Asia, or the massacres of Slavs by Hitler.

 

[Lev23]

Yes please lets not forget the millions of others (not jews) killed by the nazi’s.

Anything to do with Nazism or anti-semitism in Germany is punished. It is not taken lightly there–

Yup never again! Never again mass murder anybody regardless of their sexual orientation, mental disability, religion, ethnic makeup etc.!

Can you tell me what what objects are always marked for desecration with swastikas?

Could it be Jewish homes, businesses, memorial stones, synagogues, and are you ready for this-----Jewish Christian places of worship?

These things still happen in Germany today, mostly unpunished.

 

[Lev23]

It just wasn’t the Jews the Nazi’s went after. I’m so sick of having to go through this. I lost 3 million of my Catholic brethren in those camps. Levi23, we Catholics are constantly associated with the Third Reich! I just want to ring people’s necks when they say that. Read Eichman’s journal sometime and you’ll see how much the Nazis “loved” the Church.

I can think of a worst holocaust. ** ABORTION! **I don’t see the ADL’s anger there. To Abraham Foxman, Human Life International, American Life League, EWTN and CAF are “noise makers”. In other words he calls us right wing organizations. How do you think we Catholics feel? Get over yourself.

Yeah and the remnant of Israel that is in the church lost over 6,000,000 of their bretheren at the hands of the Nazis. Why? For being Jews

 

[bones_IV]

Yeah and the remnant of Israel that is in the church lost over 6,000,000 of their bretheren at the hands of the Nazis. Why? For being Jews

And we Catholics lost 14 million of our brethren in Ukrain. Why? Because of their faith. That’s why.

 

[johnstown_johnn]

Sorry if 60 years ago is not close enough for you. We all know many other peoples were dragged into the teeth of the Nazis, including catholics. But for the Jews, they were the ones marked for extinction.

Why don’t you and momof2 tell us how to move on properly when there is a rise of neo-nazi Jewish hatred going on in Germany right now. And most of it goes on unpunished.

Google “Rhodes Jews” and explain to me why the Nazis even had to take these peaceful Jews from their quite homes from this island to Auschwitz. Were these Jews to accused of running the world by proxy(banks, media, etc.), like much of todays Jew is accused of? And it is unbelievable how even some Christians accuse Jews of cashing in on this horrible event by “dramatizing” it.

I’ll stick with the Jewish slogan after the Holocaust rather than your “lets move on”.

That slogan is "Never Again!"

That phrase should be also used for Christians wearing Crosses at the Wall…“Never again” will we be told to deny who we are!

 

[wifeandmomoftwo]

And we Catholics lost 14 million of our brethren in Ukrain. Why? Because of their faith. That’s why.

But this HOLOCAUST is not taught in the schools, why???

 

[bones_IV]

But this HOLOCAUST is not taught in the schools, why???

Simple. Because they don’t recognize the killing of 14 million Ukrainians as a violation of human rights. They can’t call it genocide or they’ll be called “a bigot” or a “holocaust denier”. Apparently some groups get special treatment because Christians to modern society “is not an ethnic or minority group.” Which is liberal fascist propaganda. Jewish supremism is alive and well. We can’t mention that 12 million people died in the camps because we are “taking out the uniquely Jewish character of the Holocaust.” Typical of Jewish supremacists, it’s the code word for saying, “we are superior to you.” We can’t mention the martyrdom of St. Edith Stein or Maximilian Kolbe or we’ll be accused of “universalizing the Holocaust”. Which is the Jewish supremacists’ way of saying “the Catholic faith is what led the Holocaust”. Given that some like associate the swastika with the Cross! Jewish supremacists really do exist. Isn’t it amazing how those who accuse us of “universalizing the Holocaust”, are the same people who say that “Islam is the religion of peace”. This is all a tenant of pacifism at it’s most radical.

 

[chosen_people]

Simple. Because they don’t recognize the killing of 14 million Ukrainians as a violation of human rights. They can’t call it genocide or they’ll be called “a bigot” or a “holocaust denier”. Apparently some groups get special treatment because Christians to modern society “is not an ethnic or minority group.” Which is liberal fascist propaganda. Jewish supremism is alive and well. We can’t mention that 12 million people died in the camps because we are “taking out the uniquely Jewish character of the Holocaust.” Typical of Jewish supremacists, it’s the code word for saying, “we are superior to you.” We can’t mention the martyrdom of St. Edith Stein or Maximilian Kolbe or we’ll be accused of “universalizing the Holocaust”. Which is the Jewish supremacists’ way of saying “the Catholic faith is what led the Holocaust”. Given that some like associate the swastika with the Cross! Jewish supremacists really do exist. Isn’t it amazing how those who accuse us of “universalizing the Holocaust”, are the same people who say that “Islam is the religion of peace”. This is all a tenant of pacifism at it’s most radical.

Could you please elaborate on your reference to Jewish supremism. What is its definition, sources and how does it express itself? Is the idea of Jewish supremism similar to the idea
of “Jewish Naturalism” as espoused by Fr. Fahey and if so, is it a concept rooted in Catholicism and Catholic attitudes towards Jews?